Published Research: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/02654075251316579
Popular Psychology Article https://www.psypost.org/why-do-men-orgasm-more-than-women-new-research-points-to-a-pursuit-gap/
The paper is a big work, makes some interesting points, is not very political, but then again... WTF guys. It is skewed towards a concept.
The amount of research that is just blurbing feminist points, without any kind of fact or logic checking is astounding, even in peer reviewed research. Again, this is the research that all the psychologists/social workers/teachers/policy makers trust to decide on how society should go. That is because “experts” have “checked” the “math”. I don’t want to sound critical against peer-reviewed research in general. It’s the best tool we have to understand the world and progress. But when it comes to feminism… So with a quick check:
A. From the same paper:
- men were 15x more likely to orgasm
- men experienced orgasm during 90% of sex events, while women experienced orgasm during 54%.
Those two "facts" DO NOT MATCH.
B. Notably, no gap exists when women masturbate or have sex with other women, which debunks myths about biological or innate differences in women’s orgasm ability. Instead, these trends expose how the heterosexual script overlooks women’s pleasure, prioritizes men’s, and values penetration over clitoral stimulation—the latter of which is the most reliable route to women’s orgasm.
This is not how data interpretation works. What we know is that women who masturbate or have sex with women are able to achieve orgasms easier than others. That may be due to a number of factors, either on their own or all of them contributing to a degree. Par instance:
- The one they mention: the heterosexual script
- Women who masturbate may in better contact with their body than the other ones who don’t
- Women may be using sex as a tool to achieve something in heterosexual relationships, leading to less satisfaction
- Women in heterosexual relationships don’t know who to connect with their men
Etc. etc. etc. But why go through the effort to try to understand? We can just make a quick decision, that it is the contact with men that is the issue and the underlying cause at the same time. Ofc. some references are mentioned there, but I dare say, that they will be of the same quality.
C. The researchers acknowledge a limitation of their study: they only surveyed one person from each couple. But why? You had access to the study subjects and you used online questionnaires. Why wouldn’t you go on to ask their partners, had they wanted? The marginal cost is minimal. But hey… why ruin a good story.
D. Nowhere is the different physiology between men and women considered. They do address the issue of Equity of pleasure vs Equality of Orgasms, but they don’t consider possibly the fact, that women and men had biology differences, which may lead to different outcomes when it comes to an activity, other things being equal. But yeah, why ruin a good story.
I grew up believing in science and I am a scientist myself. But I had no f. idea, how this area of peer-reviewed research can be so… out of review.
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