Already happens in sports. Female reporters have full, unfettered access to male locker rooms while men are showering. This is not just at the professional level, but college as well.
Very informative post I saved from Askreddit on the issue from a former athlete:
Did you make this photo? I just can't believe this is real. Is there any source?
I know it sounds stupid, but I often come across photo's or articles that seem exaggerated, because I have never come across things like this in the Netherlands.
Nicely argued. I agree that the sign outside the bathroom doesn't really matter, and I don't think any guys have been hurt yet because they had the gall to go into the extra-special bathrooms.
I'm just disappointed they didn't go all the way. If they're going to convert the men's bathroom into an all-gender bathroom, why do they still waste space by cordoning off an entirely separate room specifically for women?
Yeah, honestly the most efficient solution would be to not have a wall between the rooms and make it one large neutral room, but that would take quite a bit of effort for comparably little gain. In the future, I suppose business owners can just choose to make a single bathroom instead of two, and we can leave the current bathrooms as they are, slapping a neutral sign on one of them.
That'd be a nightmare to clean/ventilate though. The ideal bathroom (In my mind) is one room (not male/female designated) with a number of stalls, as well as a row of urinals since I find them more convenient when I need to urinate.
I suppose the privacy and dignity side is less important to me since when I go in a bathroom, I usually want to do my business and leave without acknowledging anybody, and I assume others have the same intent.
In the end, in most spaces, the owner of the building has final say on how their bathrooms are organized. Government owned buildings can do the gender-neutral thing so we don't have to debate toilets as feverishly as people are in this comments section.
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Already happens in sports. Female reporters have full, unfettered access to male locker rooms while men are showering. This is not just at the professional level, but college as well.
Very informative post I saved from Askreddit on the issue from a former athlete:
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/5q9s79/comment/dcxw45l?st=J17AG65X&sh=e92cc45d
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Are you serious? Journalists in hs locker rooms? I've never heard of that
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Did you make this photo? I just can't believe this is real. Is there any source?
I know it sounds stupid, but I often come across photo's or articles that seem exaggerated, because I have never come across things like this in the Netherlands.
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Nicely argued. I agree that the sign outside the bathroom doesn't really matter, and I don't think any guys have been hurt yet because they had the gall to go into the extra-special bathrooms.
I'm just disappointed they didn't go all the way. If they're going to convert the men's bathroom into an all-gender bathroom, why do they still waste space by cordoning off an entirely separate room specifically for women?
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Yeah, honestly the most efficient solution would be to not have a wall between the rooms and make it one large neutral room, but that would take quite a bit of effort for comparably little gain. In the future, I suppose business owners can just choose to make a single bathroom instead of two, and we can leave the current bathrooms as they are, slapping a neutral sign on one of them.
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That'd be a nightmare to clean/ventilate though. The ideal bathroom (In my mind) is one room (not male/female designated) with a number of stalls, as well as a row of urinals since I find them more convenient when I need to urinate.
I suppose the privacy and dignity side is less important to me since when I go in a bathroom, I usually want to do my business and leave without acknowledging anybody, and I assume others have the same intent.
In the end, in most spaces, the owner of the building has final say on how their bathrooms are organized. Government owned buildings can do the gender-neutral thing so we don't have to debate toilets as feverishly as people are in this comments section.
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