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Manboobz earns his name

avoiceformen

May 13, 2012

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Title	Manboobz earns his name
Author	avoiceformen
Upvotes	1
Comments	83
Date	May 13, 2012 4:52 AM UTC (14 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/tklsk/manboobz_earns_his_name/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/manboobz-earns-his-name.1021937 https://theredarchive.com/post/1021937

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Ordinarily, I would agree - in fact, I'd go farther which is to point out the principal reason for aversion to the publication of personal details in the midst of online disputes of opinion or personality - that publishing personal details can present a threat of online harassment migrating into the real world, even the point of violence. Obviously, this is an outcome to be avoided, and informs the ethic of never posting personal details of another user, even in extremes of disagreement.

However, if individuals use the pseudo-anonimity of the web to endorse violence - they've already crossed that boundary, and should be identified. The comment I posted to Pauls' article included this :

“If if your enthusiasm you forget yourself and publicly endorse child abuse, physical violence, eugenics, or murder, we will publish your name. Not because we wish for harm to befall you, no. We will do this because a civil society cannot continue to function when mainstream media becomes a conduit for the advocation of violence.”

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no sir, at this point, it is you who is being willfully obtuse. If a group or a movement, self identified by some unifying ideology with a widely used name, regularly posts calls for murder, violence, eugenics, child murder - and people whiteout such violent inclinations do nothing except say "tut tut, i surely disagree with that" then the advocates and enthusiasts for murder, eugenics and so on will know they can ramp up their rhetoric, and their activism, until its regular appearance in media normalizes it, and public consensus comes to accept violence against the target demographic. This is not new, it follows a pattern - which escalates over a multi-year time frame, and eventually manifests as segregated society, apartheid, mod violence, and if not prevented, as large scale murder. You claim I'm advocating violence!? Are you just trolling me now? You don't like my tactics? good, suggest some alternative that's useful, soothing effective, not just muttering "oh my goodness, I disagree with that" to assuage your conscience that you didn't directly contribute to the problem.

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I think you're advocating violence by proxy in a way and by hunting people down not just advocating it but effectuating it. I'll contend that you may not be doing intentionally because you perhaps don't see the ramifications of your actions. Perhaps you're acting assuming that we live in a civil society?

Let's say I know you have deplorable unjust opinions that you've announced anonymously. Something like genocide. I wouldn't out you knowing that if I did I could potentially send a relentless frenzied mob to hunt you down, beat you and perhaps even kill you. It wouldn't be my fault that they committed violence against you, but I do have a responsibility to see to it that you are safe and treated justly even though you yourself advocated injustice. Ignoring that responsibility is to let violence come to you.

If I knew we lived in a civil society I wouldn't have a bad conscience about outing you, but knowing we do not. That you probably would suffer more harm than condemnation. I couldn't bring myself to do it.

I don't understand how you don't understand this. You've had it done to you. You shouldn't be for this. Can't you please take the moral high ground here?

[–]johntheother-1 point 14 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Im taking a course of action which in my own estimation has the least possibility of violent outcome. To limit my action against the advocation of eugenics and sex selective child abuse ( rad fem hub ) or advocation of murder ( swedish feminists ) - to limit my response to that violence advocacy to disapproving editorial, then I would be complicit in events like the mutilation of Catherine Becker's ex husband, and the treatment of that mutilation in mainstream media as high comedy ( Sharon Osborne of day tv show The Talk )

And before you or anyone else claims the rad-fem-hub eugenics advocacy is unrelated to the cultural acceptance of male-multilation leading a live audience to laugh in delight when told of the man's sexual dismemberment, I'll state clearly, they are connected in cultivating a public acceptance of male targeting violence.

Does outing murder advocates by name increase risk to them? less that the likelihood of violence which will result from their unopposed advocacy of it. Doing nothing, and letting that advocacy of violence pass without opposition such as what we did at avfm leads to a much greater potential for violence, in fact, along a longer time frame, it approaches certainly of escalated violence and murder. So your admonition to take the "high ground" by reacting with no more than disapproving editorial is a path which in my estimation will produce a far more brutal , violent and repeating outcome.

If you imagine still that I want violence, even against despicable individuals such as the authors of the rad-fem eugenics advocacy, then ill have to assume you are incapable of understanding logic. On the other hand, If you continue to claim, in light of my explaining to you here, my reasoning, and you claim I advocate violence, even secretly hidden behind a falsely "ethical reasoning" - then it will be your honesty I question.

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