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Mod of /creppyPMs posts long comment attacking /mr and the MRM...guess how many times "whiterights", "splc", and "misogyny" is said. You really gotta see this.

hardwarequestions

February 23, 2013

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Title	Mod of /creppyPMs posts long comment attacking /mr and the MRM...guess how many times "whiterights", "splc", and "misogyny" is said. You really gotta see this.
Author	hardwarequestions
Upvotes	25
Comments	38
Date	February 23, 2013 2:47 AM UTC (13 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/mensrights/comments/1926c6/mod-of-creppypms-posts-long-comment-attacking-mr-/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/mod-of-creppypms-posts-long-comment-attacking-mr.1606816 https://theredarchive.com/post/1606816

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Not for men as a class, just for individual men. who already strongly associate with masculinity. For them, dismantling patriarchy is taking away from what they have achieved within the hierarchy.

Making women more accountable is absolutely one step towards equality. However the lack of action in a social system does not promote change, and could very well ingrain traditionalism even more so. For example, taking away VAWA would indeed work against the idea of women as victims, something feminism has an odd double stance on. However it would not actually address the disparities, it effectively stops half way and lets existing disparities exist as they please.

So I'm not inherently opposed to libertarianism, I just question the effect of it as a real solution. It seems to stops progress towards equality as much as it stops progress away from equality (i.e. feminism); A solution to stop government intrusion, rather than a solution to the problems the government intrusions are attempting to solve. Perhaps I'll pop over to their sub and see if I can find out more some time.

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I understand what you're saying, and libertarians would probably say that as long as government can intrude like it does, there will always be an incentive to have it intrude in negative or opportunistic ways by political forces. The monopoly of force that government has is a huge draw for benevolent as well as malicious/avaricious forces.

They would also argue that the lack of government enforcement would not necessarily result in a lack of action in society in general, and people associating with those whose positions are in line with equality and dissociated with those who don't-meaning they incur a cost for doing so-is a sufficient force in itself. Even if non-equality positions continue to exist, the ability to dissociate with them and not be forced to associate with them means the impact of any harmful activities is minimized/internalized. Well, in theory anyway.

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