Shockingly biased and poorly informed post by family lawyer from r/MensLib gets posted to r/BestOf and the comments are the most ignorant and hypocritical imaginable with the few sane voices heavily downvoted

Kingsidam · 2017-04-28T13:24:10+00:00

Bestof appears to be a hardcore feminist SJW sub.

That thread is one of the most toxic things I've ever read. Overflowing with misandry, disinformation and worst of all -- lawyers (who profit off the divorce/custody racket).

As you say, all the reasonable comments have dozens of downvotes.

Never forget that the feminists trying to justify the family court system are enabling the mass abuse of children. Mothers are much more likely to abuse their children -- especially boys -- as are non-biological fathers compared to biological fathers.

Ironically, studies have shown that shared parenting not only benefits the children and the father, it also benefits the mother! Yet NOW, the largest feminist organization in the world, continues to oppose it. Why? Your guess is as good as mine. Seems like hurting men and destroying the family is a higher priority than helping women and children.

deaftoexcuses · 2017-04-28T15:53:46+00:00

r/menslib Is seriously the exact sub for the promotion of emasculation. This is ridiculous.

SodaPalooza · 2017-04-28T14:27:20+00:00

Damn. I never realized how misandrist /r/bestof was.

the_unseen_one · 2017-04-28T20:38:38+00:00

Fucking hell, those comments are so cringey. I even saw someone say that anything anti-feminist was "toxic and sexist".

This_is_my_phone_tho · 2017-04-28T16:59:16+00:00

Gotta love the comment a bit further down on the thread that got gold "When you're used to privilege, equality feels like oppression" Yep, that good ol' male privilege has done me a world of good so far in life. Christ.

Badgerz92 · 2017-04-29T14:03:05+00:00

This is why I can't support menslib. It's not just that the mods think this way and completely disregard arguments like why feminists have opposed these laws (NOW has said it's because fathers who want custody are abusive), or that fathers don't seek custody because it's extremely expensive and time-consuming for men, or that abusive and drug addicted parents fall outside the presumption for joint custody, or that fathers who are abused can't leave the marriage without giving up their children.

More than that, it's the fact that nobody is even allowed to bring those arguments up. At least /r/mensrights allows different opinions. I've disagreed with mods here about many issues. Sometimes I'll get downvoted, but never had a comment deleted and certainly not banned. But if you disagree with a mod on menslib, you're comment will be deleted and they'll probably ban you too. The sub is just a circle-jerk where everybody can talk about how feminism is great and MRAs are the true sexists because we want fathers to be as involved with their children as mothers.

Juan_Golt · 2017-04-28T14:40:16+00:00

This is exactly why I know that menslib and similar subs will never change anything positively for men. They don't even understand the problem, aren't even interested in critically examining the problem, and are actively pushing the counter narrative that everything is 'just fine' in family courts.

No mention of the disparities between joint legal custody and parenting time.

No mention of the way fathers and mothers are treated differently prior to going to court.

No analysis of the random 'half of men get custody' un-cited stat. Just a quick 'that must mean it's fair' type conclusion.

Starting from equal custody is a bad idea because it is something to be 'overcome' because of 'abuse'.

It's all just gender roles and fathers who don't fight for custody.

Give me a fucking break.

HotDealsInTexas · 2017-04-29T03:13:07+00:00

Reminder: CicerosAssassin has banned even discussing LPS on MensLib, because he personally disagrees with it.

cuteman · 2017-04-28T14:06:58+00:00

What a reasonable sub addressing being a man without the hate, bullshit, and baggage of other better known subs.

I subscribed, and I hope they don't let down.

Nevermind it was started by AMR

Cant_Ban_All_MRAs · 2017-04-28T22:12:51+00:00

LOL. Poor /u/terminal-psychosis got hammered down to -70 for calling this out for what it was - an exercise in feminist hand-waving devoid of relevant sources.

Still, it all good from where I'm sitting. /r/MensLib has already garnered subscriptions from most of the active feminist posters on Reddit. The only way it can grow now is to pull in moderates who would never participate here in /r/MensRights. The day will soon come the misandrists will be outnumbered in their own subreddit. The moderates will chafe at the inadequacies of standard feminist boilerplate and their little dictator, /u/ciceros_assassin, won't be able to ban/delete fast enough.

/r/MensRights is already the largest subreddit focused on gender issues. I wish /r/MenLib the very best in growing the second biggest (or even more!), so that literally everyone will be talking about the very real problems that men face.

About fucking time!

5th_Law_of_Robotics · 2017-04-29T11:21:44+00:00

I like that the menslib guy even acknowledges the bias against men, the lingering effects of the feminist TY doctrine, and the fact that men know it's stacked against them so they don't even try.

But then he dismissed all that with "but nah, really it's gender roles which really oppress women".

_Aether__ · 2017-04-28T14:18:12+00:00

Ok, how was it biased or poorly informed? It seemed reasonable to me, but you may be able to show me some examples of the post being incorrect

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