Stupid Feminists..

tallavery · 2010-11-19T17:10:44+00:00

I am female and lack the capacity to multi-task. Also, I have no fashion sense. My thought patterns are linear and logical. I do not support the idea that any individual is "better" than another simply because of any external identifiers.

guilt_tripping · 2010-11-19T17:35:18+00:00

This is why I hate "feminists". I am female, and a feminist in the respect that I want equal pay and equal treatment. FOR MEN AND WOMEN. It pisses me off when women use feminism to bash men. Even more so when they abuse science to attribute socially constructed or coincidental gender differences to inherent sexual characteristics.

EDIT: I don't have any ideas for your speech, this is just my two cents on feminism. Sorry.

IRageAlot · 2010-11-19T19:02:31+00:00

I wrote your speech for you.

"If you select any group of people, even randomly, it stands to reason that you will find certain aptitudes that allow that group to performed a specific tasks better than another group. This of course makes them superior at that one task, but not overall. For women it may be multi-tasking; For men it's delivering clear and compelling arguments in a logical manner while not losing sight of the importance of brevity."

Then walk off the stage like a boss.

zyk0s · 2010-11-19T21:26:23+00:00

Don't try to be offensive, just truthful. The problem with people like that is that they will talk over you when they start to disagree. The trick then is to force them to first agree with you, and then ask them why they changed their minds.

Let me explain.

First, establish some axioms and ask them for their confirmation. Tell them that feminism is the quest between equality between genders and the end of sexism. Then say that sexism is the belief that one gender is better than the other. Continue like this until you say that men cannot be worse than women. If they stop you at any point, ask why they changed their mind, because they agreed with you a second ago. Pure logic, it may be hard for them to grasp, but the clearer you phrase it, the more likely they will realize they are stupid.

Also, get some stats. The multi-tasking in women is an idea that has been circulating quite some time, but having the exact numbers helps make your case. Also, the more tasks you can do at once, the less well you are likely to perform them. If women are known to be better at multi-tasking, men should be known to be better at focusing. Someone once told me "women are wide sighted, men are far sighted".

Last but not least, and still using statistics, stress how these findings only mention averages, and therefore the generalization does not hold water.

Good luck!

kanuk876 · 2010-11-19T17:13:03+00:00

I say hit them with reality. Irrefutable reality, as much as you can.

Leave out anything flaky because they'll latch onto it and ignore everything else.

I would start with a plot of skill distributions for men and women. That is, for almost any given skill (eg: shoelace tying, math, making money, etc) you can plot the distribution from least-skilled to most-skilled. The distribution will approximate a bell curve (Gaussian distribution).

Now break the population into two curves by gender. The female curve tends to be tall and clustered around the middle. The male curve tends to be flatter, with more men at both the low and high ends.

Now point out:

1) the world rewards the top 10% performers in every skill, be it basketball or stock trading.

2) look at the top 10% of people for the skill you plotted. How many are women (few if any)? How many are men?

Remind them also of the glass floor:

3) look at the bottom 10%. Mostly men there too. These are the men feminism "forgot".

Now re-interpret for them all the so-called patriarchal bias in our society: CEOs, sports players, the rich and powerful, top scientists... all these people are the top-10%'ers.

GunOfSod · 2010-11-20T08:35:38+00:00

The real help you need is to calm down and be fair and rational.

VinceLambargo · 2011-02-10T21:08:02+00:00

Challenge one to a fight.... lose. Claim women to be the overly aggressive, overbearing, and ultimately more destructive sex. Then demand eggs be cooked when you wake up next to which ever one you take home.

NiceGuysSTFU · 2010-11-19T18:37:31+00:00

If you are in college, then your classmates are men and women, not boys and girls.

Could you please more thoroughly explain what the specific topics were that offended you? In order to make a clear and concise speech, you will need something narrower than the topic of Masculism.

ewhitsma · 2010-11-20T04:33:05+00:00

Wow...They're not being feminist, they're just being obnoxious. Please don't diss a whole movement just because you don't understand it.

Baron_Von_Wasteland · 2010-11-19T18:31:20+00:00

study this great text

engine_enginenumber9 · 2010-11-19T19:46:28+00:00

AS WE GET OLDER WE STOP MAKING SENSE

Kyusu · 2010-11-20T01:32:54+00:00

jboyum don't be hero

2010-11-20T07:33:46+00:00

Tell them that what they're saying is the exact equivalent to saying that girls can't do math, or are too clouded by emotion to make logical arguments. I'm a woman and what those sexists said reminds me of other sexists that try to use the above arguments to justify male superiority. Same shit different asshole.

EDIT: If you want to make it offensive, try to stylize it exactly like their arguments. Their heads are probably so far up their asses that they won't understand it's satire.

mean0dean0 · 2010-11-21T00:57:30+00:00

Read up on Warren Farrell's works--great guy, great arguments.

Dawgz83948 · 2010-11-19T16:55:08+00:00

Feminism is one of those things that makes people feel better about themselves. It's a very selfish concept rooted in a legitimate cause. Men and women can never be equals in everything. Men will be better than women in some things, and women will excel in others. I used to do my homework and watch TV at the same time, I currently do complex computer work and watch/listen to TV the same time. Men typically are better at logical thinking, women not so much. Does this mean all women aren't logical thinkers? Nope, but most are not. An average man is much stronger than an average woman, hopefully this is not a point they will argue with. In summary, the reality is one sex is not better than the other, we just excel at different things making us (as humans) better.

We are the Trucks, whereas women are the cars. Each has a purpose.

Don't feel bad, people, when your presentation is over, will brand you with an ism or ist. As in they will call you a sexist, or accuse you of sexism. The people who do that, are stupid and have no clue what that word means. Do like I do and direct them to the dictionary for a definition. This typically happens to me on XX reddits, a quick definition of the word, proves how little they know, and the fact that they just spew what they've been told to spew w/o thinking.

Liverotto · 2010-11-20T20:43:05+00:00

You will give your compelling, persuasive, logical and cogent speech and women will realize their innate inferiority and go back to their place.

phd4evar · 2010-11-19T17:01:43+00:00

One point that is possible to argue is from an evolutionary standpoint. I had a class once where I was tasked with arguing for why there was a disproportionate representation of men in high level math and science (Harvard president said something that sparked this discussion). I proposed that is was better for there to be more variation in males that in females. For example there is an overall wider range of IQ for men than there is for women. Lower and higher. Lots of guys at homeless shelters, prisons and CERN. There is less of a price to pay, in term of preserving the viability of the species, if you experiment with males. This has little to do with the idea of masculinity, but I think it is a good point to throw people of base and get them thinking about the bigger picture.

tryingtohelp2010 · 2010-11-19T16:46:33+00:00

Women get the right to vote 1920 Great Depression occurs 1929

AntiFeministMedia · 2010-11-19T18:49:51+00:00

I think alot of people completely miss the real point. Its not that some women can achieve in education or work, some do, but its the massive harm women do to society when they attain freedom thats the key issue. False reporting of sexual assault/rape, paternity fraud, parental alienation, abuse of power when in those positions, the sexualization of children and society, to name just a few.

This is the real issue, not how much women can achieve when given the opportunity, but the damage they do to those around them when they get the opportunity.

Tell the women in your class that with equality comes responsibility. Its time to 'man up'.

AnnArchist · 2011-02-08T18:18:04+00:00

Step 1: Learn to write.

GunOfSod · 2010-11-20T02:20:57+00:00

There is very little that a woman can do for a man that a man can't do for himself. Therefore, women are almost worthless to men.

Title	Stupid Feminists..
Author	jboyum
Upvotes	1
Comments	83
Date	November 19, 2010 4:39 PM UTC (15 years ago)
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