We are fighting a war without any support. I just need to rant. I apologise if that’s not allowed.

JacktheRipperColour · 2022-10-19T07:46:51+00:00

You know what that sounds like.....victim blaming mate!

Jacklshere · 2022-10-19T07:16:10+00:00

It's only a matter of time before this rotten system collapses on itself. History has proven over and over again that pissing off a large portion of your society is not a good idea.

Accomplished-Foot123 · 2022-10-19T08:34:47+00:00

No point in arguing. I know some extreme feminist who in personal conversations have admitted the existance of misandry and futile arguments of certain feminist narratives. But they would never oppose them nor admit misandry in public. Most of them is just virtue signalling. Not backed up by stats. In our college (in India) more than 50% students and faculties are women. They have same facilities, if not more as their male counterparts. Even the hostel facilities are better for them. Yet, there is womens only club and women welfare committees for them. Idk the reason for their existance but I surelt can't question it, lest I will be socially isolated.

The_Bearded_Cyclist · 2022-10-19T05:33:40+00:00

No point getting upset mate. There are even people out there who think the world is flat, people will believe anything, no matter how ridiculous. You can't convince an alcoholic they have a drinking problem, just like you can't convince someone their views are wrong. No point getting into these arguments because no one changed their mind because of an argument.

Instead avoid people who are Toxic for your life, surround yourself with people who emulate the type of morals you have and life you want to live. Better yourself and better your life. You'll find it so much more rewarding than trying to educate those who don't want to educated.

Woozuki · 2022-10-19T15:01:49+00:00

Go MGTOW

OpenMindedOtter · 2022-10-19T05:04:15+00:00

No need to get all riled up about it. There is no point in arguing with them, they argue for the sake if arguing no valid points and concern will get them to change their mind. They have a fixed mind and fixed views. As we know misandry exists and many other double standards. I was literally reading where a woman was basically saying it's ok for women to be fat because of genetics but men shouldnt. You wont get anything from arguing with them. The question is what can we do to make our voices heard and actually be taken seriously. They legit are just man haters I came across a sub where it was about height and Male suicide , and women commented "good" "natural selection" Literally happy and wishing men kill themselves , but of course misandry doesnt exist. Those females dont get called out for their toxic behavior how do we counter this.

Starforce2005 · 2022-10-19T12:25:34+00:00

The only way for us to peacefully fight back now is: Not cooperate

ProgressExisting1465 · 2022-10-19T06:12:27+00:00

You have to be more choosy with your time mate. Is a meagre 80 years worth spending 5 minutes more with people like that?

delocalelectron · 2022-10-19T09:39:54+00:00

We all develop in the oestrogen rich environment of the womb. All foetuses begin life as female. Women emerge with a narrow range of median intellect, men are over-represented by both geniuses and idiots, depending on how quickly the SRY gene causes testes to develop. The leading psychologist, Roy F Baumeister [ author: Is There Anything Good About Men?] proposes that Nature uses men as 'gambling chips', testing out mutations. If these are beneficial, they will enter the gene pool, as women will want to mate with the successful mutants. If these mutations were expressed through females, they'd ALL enter the gene pool, good and bad. Oestrogen amplifies the left-brain dopamine pleasure pathways, females tend to seek resources, and exhibit more selfish and entitled behaviour. [Professor Iain McGilchrist : The Master and His Emissary]. Nature has given males a sex drive up to 100x greater than female (aged seventeen), setting them on a path of transferring resources, earned through hunting (which became work) in exchange for sex. Testosterone is easily converted to oestrogen, as the latter is much more thermodynamically stable. Stable as old boots. Fat cells enable that conversion, making men less sexually demanding as they become older, fatter and more comfortable, not realising that their assets have been transferred from under their nose. Meanwhile, women have been given preferential hiring in the workplace, causing a tsunami of illogical, self-interested, left brain decision making which will swamp every institution based on justice and fairness.

That's science, that is!

quantivity · 2022-10-19T16:52:51+00:00

Women now have all the power because you don't agree with the basis of her argument?

You've also just called her a person "with the intelligence of a 5 year old" but you don't have the maturity to accept her opinion being different from yours, and simply moving on. I would argue a 5 year old would get upset over this. You live in a society. You won't always agree with everybody.

I'd suggest figuring out why you're so trigged by this. It's your issue here, not her issue.

2022-10-19T08:34:38+00:00

It starts with indoctrination in schools and the influence of the newspapers and social media. If this changes, there would be less followers of the ideology.

Silentpoolman · 2022-10-19T17:21:50+00:00

I'm tired of always being told my feelings are wrong

ZulutheZebra · 2022-10-20T00:00:03+00:00

It gets to the point of rampant incredulity. Women have shamed men relentlessly for daring to approach them, for “bothering” them, for daring to call them hot. You saw this regularly in conversation, magazine articles, posts on Reddit, etc. Finally, men throw their hands up and say “Ok fine, I’ll spend my money on myself”.

And that’s a BIG problem.

Now there’s a relatively new trend of shaming men for “being boys” (aka not spending money on women), for daring to not approach women and be rejected publicly, etc. It’s disgusting honestly. Men are constantly trashed in every possible arena, and when they do the most peaceful thing imaginable and walk away they get the media frothing at the mouth for…what exactly? No one will give you a true answer, they will just deflect and say “Where have all the REAL men gone?” While casually sidestepping the decades of them actively creating this problem.

astonery · 2023-10-30T13:16:34+00:00

First of all I know this post in a year old but how do you draw this kinda conclusion from one convo with an unstable person. Please do your research first. Different issues are caused by different or a mix of things. Both genders have played a part in. But the danger of black and white thinking is also a problem too.

paynetrain37 · 2022-10-19T05:02:06+00:00

A matriarchal society would be one where the positions of power are held primarily by women. Given that, may I ask what you’re smoking?

I mean seriously. Women aren’t dominating politics, they certainly aren’t CEOs of all the Fortune 500 companies. They aren’t taking the high-paying jobs…we know that’s men too.

This doesn’t mean men don’t have problems, or that there aren’t men who have bad lives. But come on - there’s no possible way you could make an argument that society is matriarchal.

LiquidDreamtime · 2022-10-19T22:02:57+00:00

Framing is as a “war” is useless. There is no war on men. Violence won’t help, and the end of your comment here sounds like a threat against women on behalf of men.

dont-believe-me- · 2022-10-19T07:49:41+00:00

If you think society is matriarchal right now I would love to see some sort of justification

degustibus · 2022-10-19T07:53:11+00:00

Once she was uncomfortable thinking about her body count you had a few options. One was to do what you did and futilely engage in intellectual intercourse with an emotion driven woman (most people, especially women). Another option would have led to sex, that intercourse that has been indispensable to the survival of our species and why men do so much for women.

I suspect her argument about promiscuity has a hint of merit. Most men in the decadent West went all in for pornification and all that entails. Creepy Hugh Hefner who by the end was watchinng gay porn while women tried to service him... Women getting ridiculous breast implants to cater to the men who like beach balls. Men of course were the major force behind artificial birth control that turned women into living sex toys. And it was men who made up a right to kill human beings in utero base off lies from a case in Texas motivated in large part by eugenics.

So, did you or I do any of those things? No, of course not. We also didn't invent the internet or the internal combustion engine or plumbing. Thing is, we as men abandoned functionanl traditional values for mindless lust and overindulgence of other appetites.

Now we need to figure out how to proceed.

TRexDale08 · 2022-10-19T09:11:39+00:00

How could anyone argue womens promiscuity is the fault of men? In my opinion, men are too promiscuous too and I understand my future wife doesn’t want me after I’ve been used up by a bunch of women. But we still control our own actions.

EnvironmentalSyrup96 · 2022-10-19T15:23:33+00:00

I guess its time for the socio fabric to fall

Chekhovs_Gin · 2022-10-20T01:55:30+00:00

My brother in our lord whomever ye look up too, I am sorry you have had the misfortune to deal with such a woman. There are good women out there. They are just hard to find because of how rare morality is these days.

IronJohnMRA · 2022-10-20T11:18:49+00:00

I just need to rant. I apologise if that’s not allowed.

Of course it's allowed. Ranting is normal here. Welcome.

Title	We are fighting a war without any support. I just need to rant. I apologise if that’s not allowed.
Author	Mindless-Spare-2454
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Date	October 19, 2022 4:03 AM UTC (3 years ago)
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