What can we do to actually help our cause?

LowPressureUsername · 2024-07-22T18:30:49+00:00

Learn how to actually hold a conversation about men’s rights. Too many men’s rights activists can’t articulate their opinion and it sucks because our adversaries, which there are many of, will always pick and single out the weakest articulation of our arguments.

Contact your senators, representatives and leaders at every level. When senators are only told that their base is demanding men’s rights they cannot refuse forever. As we’ve seen, their policy can fold easily to outside pressure regardless of any morals they have. Contact your union leaders, contact your mayor, your governor, anyone who can organize or who already has power. Don’t give up, change is a contest of wills.

ElonMastX · 2024-07-22T18:37:48+00:00

I made a decision that as soon as I get a job I will start helping out boys who are not getting jobs because of the diversity hiring, upskill themselves

by buying them education material and subscriptions. I will create an army of my own and hope someday they will do it for more boys.

SidewaysGiraffe · 2024-07-22T18:05:42+00:00

On what level? Politics are hard to affect; you can contact your politicians, but not much is likely to happen. Organizing efforts to mass contact them may help, but you're not likely to find much support. Running for office yourself may likewise not get you much.

It's easier, more reliable, and ultimately will improve the chances of higher level stuff to work on a more personal level- encourage support of, and positive attitudes toward, men, boys, and masculinity. Call out bigotry when you see it (in an assertive rather than aggressive way), and challenge ideas and speech calling for or enacting it.

Build up sympathy and respect on the ground level, and making changes further up will get much easier.

beast_status · 2024-07-22T21:01:40+00:00

Nothing will change until the corrupt family court system is uprooted. It starts with getting decent people as judges. Keep the status quo and it will get worse.

independance_soft1 · 2024-07-22T16:03:26+00:00

Take your complaints to your politicians, avoid the common talks about women seen here, they are detrimental on a political level.

Focus on men and men alone, don't even say anything about women.

Sea-Musician-3289 · 2024-07-22T16:19:42+00:00

Go to rallies arranged by Men's rights India and Save Indian Family foundation Organisation, they run suicide help line. Go volunteer, send funds. Promote them and their online work by reposts, likes, subscribe and share them with friends and family. Give helpline no To people around you that are suffering.

haaku-san · 2024-07-22T17:49:51+00:00

inform and apathy. i think the best we can do is inform men about how things actually are so that they can know where they stand and move accordingly. that way they'll avoid more trouble and live better. this is how men win.

then after that they need to have apathy to the freak show. inform, win, apathy.

genkernels · 2024-07-23T06:37:32+00:00

Title IX for All
Men's shelters
NCFM
Documentaries around men's issues (Cassie Jay's documentary, but also documentaries about prison, divorce, etc)
The Innocence Project
Homeless Shelters and Food Kitchens
Men's groups
Awareness activism and forum activity

Kvltizt · 2024-07-23T14:16:54+00:00

You have to be the living, breathing example of the changes you wish to see. Stay educated on statistics so no feminist bullshit will sway you to believe otherwise. Like how it's easier for women to get into college vs men. Being a pillar of male rights is the way to go. Continue spreading the information.

Thick-History2799 · 2024-07-23T16:42:07+00:00

Jan 6 was a good start. I mean, if you want real answers, they aren't going to come through discussion. Extremists are the people who get things done....

Main-Tiger8593 · 2024-07-22T21:11:19+00:00

mens rights activism

nrverma · 2024-07-22T21:55:50+00:00

"The game is rigged. But you can not lose, if you do not play."

One of the strategies that I advise (especially for men) is to simply disengage from misandrist institutions. Divorce courts and family courts are notoriously misandric. By simply avoiding marriage and reproduction, you can undermine the influence these institutions have.

Declining marriage rates

Declining birth rates

__I____ · 2024-07-23T10:56:04+00:00

Imma be honest, I think waiting a while and some unusual strategies might help. It's going to take time for the general outlook of the movement or of men to change, and asking for extreme change overnight or being upset that it hasn't happened yet won't help. Weed out the crazies, don't associate with them, and even call out people you support when they're being too much. That'll show we're reasonable and not an emotionally based group. Just because someone is pro male doesn't make it good, or useful, or logical. Having some sort of idea of specific demands that we would like to be met helps too, maybe becoming more semi organized or certain of what legal action needs to change.

AmbitionOfTruth · 2024-07-23T16:02:07+00:00

Run for political offices IMO. You could either run on an MRA platform, or try infiltrating one of the two ruling parties and do what it takes to get into the legislative branch. Find MRA's in your area if possible to join your cause so you can push out the gynocentrists.

If anyone has achieved the Wolf of Wall Street dream like what my former trainer was talking about at the sales call center job I left a few months ago, instead of blowing your wealth on hedonism like luxury cars and vacationing on expensive yachts, spend it towards Men's Rights political achievement the same way George Soros empowers left wing groups. For all the hate that guy gets, I find it inspirational: why can't we do that too?

Whatever it takes to turn the tide!!

coming2grips · 2024-07-22T21:00:45+00:00

Totally agree!

Attempted to create safe spaces or groups is immediately shot down though.

I think we need to emulate the work of those that have created such issues and start at grass roots level and also start building infrastructure or networks inside of the social pillars that we will need to help us to move forward.

welshrebel1776 · 2024-07-22T23:47:18+00:00

When I try to make a space for men to be themselves without women that want to cause issues I am shot down by men and women because I am on this sub.

I was thinking that maybe doing a podcast or a YouTube channel may be a good way of spreading awareness to the cause

Brilliant-Relation72 · 2024-07-23T06:33:49+00:00

Maybe it would be a good idea to start figuring out how to sway people in our favor. There may be a few ways to do this, but one might be by collaborating to figure out what kinds of talking points work, and what kinds don't work.

Current_Finding_4066 · 2024-07-23T11:35:31+00:00

Spread the word, but it might cost you some "friends".

Civil-Handle5052 · 2024-07-24T00:35:28+00:00

Feminism is state mandatet, and people are following because of repurcussions. We can't fight top-down because they guard their place well and with all the might they have. We have to fight from the bottom up: raise awareness of the gynocentric culture an strengthen our own, make our points known, and expose every fkin double-standart. Use statistics and scientific evidence to make our points clear. Or in short, spread the message. Look how much noise Andrew Tate made. We need someone who's as loud as him thats not a pimp and human trafficker. 'preciate feedback

Sad_Chair8797 · 2024-07-22T19:36:47+00:00

We don't do anything.

We let society crumble under feminism and leftism and Marxism.. until it gets bad enough that society resets and they beg "the patriarchy" to fix it.

So when those ruling political elites force the rest of us men into conscription to recivilize the world? That generation will go through hell, like the battle bred generations before... and live in prosperity for about 250 years until the cycle restarts again..

Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.

phoenician_anarchist · 2024-07-22T20:13:41+00:00

15f

🤣

Given that you are a child and seem to be new here in general ("first post" 8 days ago), I'm not surprised that you haven't seen much "action". Stick around, pay attention, and have a little patience...

tilldeathdoiparty · 2024-07-22T18:19:44+00:00

We need to stop sinking below the feminists we are trying to rise above.

The slinging mud and complaining does nothing.

We need to have those posts here because it’s the only safe space the a male can vent about the feminist agenda. I think we should add some mega threads to isolate that clatter for them to go back and forth on, because it’s starting to drown our overall message out.

Honestly we need to report people who are only dragging women down, over generalizing one situation to represent all women. That’s not what this is about, it’s about being better for the men around us, helping each other prevail, get quality advice and let them know we aren’t alone.

I’m not saying I’m some god in this community but I am a little older and am trying to help guide the movement in a positive direction, we can improve our situation without hurting other messages, regardless of what they say about us.

I’ve done interviews based on my thoughts here on the sub, multiple times, that will be involved in studies, and I am routinely trying to emphasize that there are good women, there are also good men, we don’t see them online because they aren’t participating in creating online content, they are living the lives of happy content people.

nabdag · 2024-07-22T21:01:12+00:00

There is nothing we can do. I mean men are really out there on their own. I have gone around for 35 years smiling, being warm, nice, positive, etc. I greet people with a mile and always say please and thank you. Only to still be met with discern or disgust.

I'll go into a store and say, "Hi! How are you! Can you please tell me where the socks are?" And they act like I killed man. Then point without verbally saying anything.

But then a woman comes in, doesn't make eye contact, is on her phone, and mumbles, "Where are the socks?...." And they fumble over themselves to help them.

I was at an airport for a work trip. My flight had been canceled so I got put on another one and the connection from it was canceled. So I was stuck in Georgia for 18 hours. I got a possible stand by and I go up and am real nice and this woman grumbles at me and does that thing where they don't actually answer you and play a sort of mind game like they had. And was just so rude to me.

There was this woman who didn't even get out of her seat. Shouted over to the woman behind the counter while looking at her phone. The woman comes over, gets her pass, handles it all, and takes it back with a smile.

I get on stand by and leave my bag by a guy who had a much later flight. I had a guaranteed stand by on the next flight so I wanted to give him my info so he could go claim my spot and get home sooner. And the woman does the thing where she isn't using words to talk to me. Calls me up there and just looks at me like I am supposed to read her mind. So I say, "Am I getting on, and she says yeah like I should know. So I say let me go grab my bag and she scoffs and acts like I am being absurd.

Us existing is as bad as killing a man

Us being as nice as humanly possible is as bad as killing a man.

DecrepitAbacus · 2024-07-23T03:35:34+00:00

What are we actually doing.

I note the collective pronoun. Who are WE, what is your part in WE and what are YOU doing?

Former_Range_1730 · 2024-07-22T22:22:12+00:00

You raise children with a solid, traditional, patriarchal foundation, who focus on facts of reality. That's it.

Just as our enemies raise their children to hate hetero traditional boys, men, & women, we can continue to allow our families to flourish.

A few years ago my 12 year old son was playing chase with new kids at a birthday party. He tagged this one girl out. That girl, I kid you not, was wearing a girl power T-shirt. She was also obese. Her parents were two women. She got mad at my son for always tagging her out first. My son was and is very fit. She said to him, "you keep tagging me because you hate women". Out of no where. There was no hate at all. She was simply the slowest and nearest person.

My son knew exactly what this was, and avoided interacting with her from that point on, which is the best thing you can do with these kinds of bigots. If he wasn't raised to spot this bs, he would be angry about that, think he's a bad person and all the rest. But he know's she's a feminist, and that feminists hate hetero boys/men. There is no other way to view it.

Years later, he continued to go to the gym, remain confident, which the result is guys respect him, and girls always want to date him.

We need to keep doing that.

Igualdad23M · 2024-07-22T21:00:10+00:00

Well.... There's little we can actually (and legally) do but complaining.

The success of any political claim has more to do with the set of beliefs and moral values of the society than with the moral values or fairness of those claims themselves.

PROFESSA954 · 2024-07-22T22:55:12+00:00

At the moment mostly just speak out against misandry and unfair treatment in general, I've managed to open a few hearts and minds to the fact that Your average man doesn't have it nearly as good as They once believed.

I had a discussion with a friend this morning and He had an idea I personally liked: Since we're only conscripting men, and now We're automatically conscripting Them there should be benefits for Them. For example free or significantly discounted gyms, self-defense, survival, martial arts, and firearms classes exclusively for everyone signed up for conscription to help keep Us sharp. We should also make a better safety net so there aren't nearly as many homeless veterans... as the thought of someone sacrificing Their physical and mental health for a country only to sleep in it's streets is heartbreaking to Me.

TL;DR: if Our country is going to treat men like weapons in reserve They shouldn't be treated like disposable weapons. We should advocate for men signed up for conscription to receive some form of benefits, and I plan to look into this to get the ball rolling to make it a reality.

TaskComfortable6953 · 2024-07-23T01:32:56+00:00

PROTEST! PROTEST! PROTEST! If every man in one town called out for one day without any notice said town would collapse.

rabel111 · 2024-07-23T01:42:40+00:00

Feminism has become mainstream and aggressive, so the best advice for the moment, is hand-on and wait for the dust to settle.

Witty_Attitude4412 · 2024-07-23T05:17:43+00:00

Some excellent suggestions in comments. I will just add one more.

Just like women who vote as a hivemind for female-centric policies, we need to start voting as a hivemind for male-centric policies.

Secure_Slip_9451 · 2024-07-22T17:04:14+00:00

You could identify as a woman but a butch lesbian. Then you're unstoppable.

Title	What can we do to actually help our cause?
Author	Lazy-Spray3426
Upvotes	66
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Date	July 22, 2024 3:42 PM UTC (2 years ago)
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