“wHy D0n’T mEn GeT tHeRaPy”

PuddleOfMush · 2019-01-14T15:41:10+00:00

Funny though, that some aspects of "traditional masculinity", particularly the ones that benefit women, are considered okay. Such as being a provider, a problem solver, a fixer. Wonder what would happen if every time a woman asked for help, men just went "Sorry, can't. That'd be toxic masculinity".

Akesgeroth · 2019-01-14T14:20:23+00:00

For the record, they eventually "retracted" that statement. And by "retracted" I mean they tried to use weasel words to make it sound like they didn't say that.

KiloYankee5E1F · 2019-01-14T12:00:12+00:00

"Toxic masculinity" only hurts males that were raised by feminazis to be inept pussies.

Wagair75 · 2019-01-14T11:22:08+00:00

Link please.

Mythandros · 2019-01-14T20:12:10+00:00

Bullshit.

Follow the money. I bet more than a few feminist $$$ are involved in this bullshit study.

WittyPlotDevice · 2019-01-14T13:49:08+00:00

Here are the actual guidelines if anyone wants to read them.

https://www.apa.org/about/policy/boys-men-practice-guidelines.pdf

NibblyPig · 2019-01-14T18:31:18+00:00

exists

mfw harmful

svenskbitch · 2019-01-15T07:50:26+00:00

At the risk of fomenting outrage among my fellow MRAs, let me contend that there is some truth to the narrative about toxic masculinity.

I know this well, growing up as a non-conforming, slightly effeminate gay man in the 1980s - a time when it was still socially acceptable to express utter disgust against male homosexuals. Let us not forget how far we have come at a time when the left is obsessing about minutiae like minor heterosexism and new pronouns: an old Chinese adage goes "No food - one problem. Lots of food -many problems".

It was not only the censure and threat of violence that I faced almost every day. Much worse was the denial, the self-loathing, and disgust that I as an insecure teenager inflicted on myself. Having to be masculine was a heavy, hurtful burden to carry. And the differences between how I was treated as a boy compared to a girl in the same situation were stark and palpable - perhaps the reason why I, decades later, found some solace in the budding MRA movement (that cauldron of misogyny and homophobia and frustrated heterosexuality!). That boys way outnumber girls in suicide and probably also fare worse in terms of mental health, although they rarely speak about it, makes perfect sense to me - and I am saying that as someone who had mostly girls as friends and who understands the problem they face more than most (I think).

But, first of all, this toxicity hits other boys and men worse than it hits women. Even the worst of bullies attack mostly boys - and only boys physically, in my experience. The same goes, as we know, for violence.

At the same time, we have to recognise the good that masculinity brings. It was other boys that stood up against my bullies and protected me, and would have done so with even more verve if the victim was a girl. It has been mostly boys and men that have helped me in desperate moments of my life. And nowadays, I have found ways to gain respect while being myself, including in the competitive environment I work in.

So we should not dismiss the issue of toxic masculinity. We should own it and shift the emphasis away from the single-minded focus on how it hurts women, towards how we can retain positive aspects and minimise harm for all.

To my mind, it is boys and men, gay or straight, that stand to gain the most. But, for tactical purposes, let us keep that secret for now :).

WittyPlotDevice · 2019-01-15T00:48:53+00:00

APA is doubling down

"Many men believe they must be stoic & take care of things solo, which are great tools. But, when those are the only ones they have & when they self-blame for being unable to make them work in all situations, the result often is to lash out, or in, violence"

Other psychologists not happy.

https://malepsychology.org.uk/2019/01/10/is-there-an-alternative-to-the-new-apa-guidelines-for-working-with-men-and-boys/

nocivo · 2019-01-14T20:24:52+00:00

New femininity bad for society...

antilopes · 2019-01-17T03:33:18+00:00

Are we supposed to discuss a photo of a headline in a newspaper most of us have heard of?

Headlines are not written by the writers of the article, and the headline writer may not be ashamed they don't always understand and thus misrepresent the articles because their purpose is grab attention not to convey information.

The APA's statement on widespread misrepresentation of the guidelines might be the best thing to read first:
http://division51.net/homepage-slider/twitter-message-not-reflecting-the-guidelines-for-boys-and-men/

The article the OP photo is from:
https://www.wpxi.com/news/national/-traditional-masculinity-deemed-harmful-by-american-psychological-association/903768805

The new APA guidelines, 36 page PDF:
https://www.apa.org/about/policy/boys-men-practice-guidelines.pdf

Blutarg · 2019-01-14T16:05:46+00:00

Why don't people type their titles like rational human beings? Thank you "hide" button.

user_miki · 2019-01-14T14:15:47+00:00

Money from women are not enough.Now they want to treat to other half of the population.This is how you create a market.Similar thing they did with cholesterol level limits when they fixed them in 1984.What followed for human health is history.Big business.

bassboostnoise · 2019-01-24T03:51:44+00:00

Imagine putting yourself and your entire family at risk because you can’t handle being told by a trained therapist that maybe you shouldn’t attach your identity to an outdated and abusive form of expression and be more empathetic to those around you lmao.

Imagine having an ego so fragile that you refuse to go to a therapist

Title	“wHy D0n’T mEn GeT tHeRaPy”
Author	ZayOnline
Upvotes	183
Comments	96
Date	January 14, 2019 11:19 AM UTC (7 years ago)
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