Why do feminists even use the argument that "Men are mostly raped by men"?

memymineown · 2011-10-20T18:10:13+00:00

Because logic isn't exactly feminists' strong point.

johnmarkley · 2011-10-20T08:13:28+00:00

Because a lot of them don't really think of men as individual people. The entire male sex is treated as a single undifferentiated entity, so the victim of male-on-male rape isn't an innocent human being who's been horribly victimized- he's is just an example of Men As A Class hurting itself.

It's also a convenient way to shift attention from male victims to male perpetrators, moving the framing of the issue away from "man as innocent victim" to "man as violent predator," and thus change the subject from something typical feminists don't really like discussing (or seeing other people discussing) to one which most feminists find much more congenial.

EvilPundit · 2011-10-20T07:50:35+00:00

I think it's because feminists divide the world into two opposing sides - "men" and "women".

So a feminist considers that victimisation of men doesn't count if it's by other men, because they're "on the same side" - and all of them are enemies of women.

ThePigman · 2011-10-20T10:16:59+00:00

They know it is irrelevant, they just don't want male victims to be helped. You won't hear them use the same logic to minimize black deaths by saying that most black people are killed by black people.

ignatiusloyola · 2011-10-20T11:30:56+00:00

I haven't heard that.

But I would say that if one said that, then they don't care about who the victim is, they only care who the aggressor is - in other words, their form of feminism would be less about helping women and more about attacking men.

OThomson · 2011-10-20T10:25:26+00:00

It is because feminism characterises rape as a crime of masculinity, if thy can show that men are responsible for most rape it'll allow then to srgue that rape is inherently masculine

brunt2 · 2011-10-20T12:05:23+00:00

The same reason they argue against female circumcision but defend male circumcision. Sexism and receiving as much money from the state and men as possible. Feminists have started a gender war and are clinging onto what they have gained and what male feminists have given them.

Cassio · 2011-10-20T08:57:10+00:00

because anal sex tends to hurt more,

and you would know that how? Let's not make this about who has it harder...

they have a hard time getting counselling or shelter, and they are not taken seriously by most people, due to feminist influence

If you mean that women founded shelters for women and provide counselling then you are right. Time for you to start a shelter and get active instead if blaming someone else for not doing it.

deadlast · 2011-10-20T15:53:21+00:00

I fail to see how genders are even of importance when rape is involved. The word rape, by definition, means that one didn't want it.

You don't think analyzing the problem is important? Ugggrhg. This is the rhetoric of someone who cares about scoring points and enjoying feeling aggrieved than, you know, stopping rape.

It's important to figure out when rape is most likely and who is most at risk to figure out how to get them help and how to reduce rape. Men in prison, men who are prostitutes, and men in the military, for example, are all at increased risk of rape.

MrStinkybutt · 2011-10-20T07:51:52+00:00

Because they hate men.

NiceGuysSTFU · 2011-10-20T20:26:59+00:00

Because it's true.

Title	Why do feminists even use the argument that "Men are mostly raped by men"?
Author	EndlessEvent
Upvotes	7
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Date	October 20, 2011 7:41 AM UTC (14 years ago)
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