Why do white supremacists and tradcucks hate mgtow?

Hubris1998 · 2024-03-23T00:10:19+00:00

Because mgtow are aware of the inherent gynocentrism and misandry of tradcon ideology

Cecarrilloa · 2024-03-22T23:47:57+00:00

Because of more men that opting out of societal norms their influence and control is crumbling.

allmyfriendsaregay · 2024-03-23T02:22:40+00:00

For all _______supremacists groups, members of their own in-group, especially those perceived to be defectors, are ultimately the people they hate most. Whenever they are successful in eliminating their supposed enemies they turn on themselves.

CommunicationDue9265 · 2024-03-23T00:00:49+00:00

They want us to get married

Newbosterone · 2024-03-22T23:52:27+00:00

Demographics is destiny?

Weisser_Stolz · 2024-03-22T23:58:15+00:00

I don’t really see this happening

TeddyMGTOW · 2024-03-23T00:40:08+00:00

Less hate, more love...signed Uncle Teddy. Yes username checks out 😉

Roamer56 · 2024-03-25T18:24:06+00:00

Turn up the heat MGTOW. It’s pissing off all the groups that deserve it.

Men are starting to realize they can have good lives without women. Life is better when you don’t lose 50 percent of your wealth.

kkkan2020 · 2024-03-23T04:48:01+00:00

white supremes and trads share a common view. they want to have wives and children basically family. mgtow doesnt align with that so it's really a clash of ideologies. we're in a new age of ideology wars.

ShennongjiaPolarBear · 2024-03-22T23:58:27+00:00

Both white supremacists and tradcucks are obsessed with demographics: the first want as many new members of their race, the second want as many new members of their religion. They hope to achieve this by pitchforking everyone into early marriages sans contraceptives.

IthrowAwayYourAdvice · 2024-03-23T13:53:07+00:00

Because tradcucks are some of the worst misandrists and are basically the part time stasi informants of "masculinity", now I am not left leaning but I laugh my ass off at the tradcucks thinking they are going to "bring back muh traditional values" or that they have their cheating wives in check because they read from the gospel before dinner.

Wooper160 · 2024-03-23T14:37:10+00:00

Both of them want a future where men and women continue to partner together instead of just ending humanity in a generation. Although there’s some overlaps

redbluehandle · 2024-03-23T00:20:00+00:00

So here is what chat gpt had to say: The terms "tradcucks" (short for traditional cuckolds) and "white supremacists" represent two different ideological groups, but both may express disdain towards the MGTOW (Men Going Their Own Way) movement for various reasons:

Ideological Differences: Tradcucks, often associated with traditionalist views on gender roles and relationships, might view MGTOW as a rejection of traditional family values. MGTOW's emphasis on men prioritizing their own well-being over traditional societal expectations can clash with traditionalist beliefs that emphasize duty to family and community.
Perceived Threat: White supremacists, who advocate for the preservation and dominance of the white race, might see MGTOW as a threat to their agenda. MGTOW's philosophy of men disengaging from long-term relationships and marriage could be perceived as detrimental to their goal of ensuring white demographic dominance through family formation and reproduction.
Disruption of Patriarchal Norms: Both groups may perceive MGTOW as a disruption of patriarchal norms, albeit for different reasons. Traditionalists might see MGTOW as undermining the traditional roles of men as providers and protectors, while white supremacists may see it as weakening the position of white men within society.
Focus on Individualism: MGTOW's focus on individualism and self-improvement can be antithetical to the collectivist ideologies often embraced by traditionalists and white supremacists. MGTOW encourages men to prioritize their own happiness and well-being above societal expectations, which can be seen as selfish or disloyal to the group by those who prioritize collective interests.

Overall, while tradcucks and white supremacists may have different reasons for disliking MGTOW, their opposition often stems from a clash between MGTOW's philosophy of individualism and self-determination and the traditionalist or supremacist ideologies that prioritize conformity to societal norms and collective interests.

HotwheelsJackOfficia · 2024-03-23T02:58:22+00:00

White supremacists: you can't have white babies if you're no longer chasing white women

Tradcucks: want marriage, which is what mgtow avoids.

Suspicious_Emu_7275 · 2024-03-23T01:41:07+00:00

Because they see MGTOW as ‘liberalism.’ They hate individualism.

They’re collectivists.

They want traditional family structures but don’t realise most white women are super liberal and lefty so it won’t work. The men end up being bitter and angry because it will never eventuate so they cling to religion as hope ‘Jesus will come any second now…’

mrkpxx · 2024-03-23T07:06:40+00:00

Blue pilled men gain their power from the desire to save a woman. This form of responsibility gives them the self-confidence for a stable relationship. They have an inferiority complex. If you take their job away from them, they are afraid that they won't have anything else to offer a woman.

Expensive-Bid9426 · 2024-03-23T01:31:30+00:00

I am a former member of Wotansvolk. And while I was never an official member trained with white lives matter. I can't speak for every single white supremacists ideology because contrary to what leftists typically believe it's not this one big hive mind. They believe that mgtow is a defeatist approach and stuff like "you are just choosing the wrong women" (yet none of them will let fellow members court their daughters to solve this). There's also a strong " you can fix her" mentality and "your young there's no rush" type excuses (they will keep telling you this throughout your mid twenties all the way til 35 because I guess they just expect you to somehow be a chick magnet as a thirty year old virgin with zero dating experience. I've also seen several kicking a dead horse posts about how they genuinely believe your children will be "better of genetically" if you marry an inbred mentally disabled 400lb white woman than if you have kids with a 5'10 mullato/Latina fitness model.
Any kind of black pill rhetoric is viewed as Jewish propaganda against "mug Aryan goddesses" . They frequently refer to basically any >3 girl who has blonde hair as a goddess and will always take a woman's side in basically any argument because she is an innocent Aryan princess. They don't believe women should be accountable for anything and that every mistake modern white women make us "just because they are brainwashed" or mislead. If a white woman has sex with black men she is untouchable but it's not her fault because she was just mislead by probagansa but I was called a race traitor and "wannabe n1g3r" because I had a one night stand with a Japanese woman and briefly dated a WHITE WOMAN who had the last name Cortez (because Spaniards didn't exist). I wasn't ever killed it jumped for it though because I am, unlike most neonazis, actually a 6'+ muscular blonde guy with a Danish dad (unlike most people in said movements who talk about Viking this and Viking that when they are 99% Irish). If you are a degenerate man you are scum of the earth and "just should've known better" but if you are a girl so long as you don't have sex with a black guy you can booze yourself into oblivion every night, shoot up heroin throughout your 20s, and have green hair and you will be a victim and you will be able to pick from the most financially successful and highest reputation guys in Wotansvolk, White lives matter, and big sky active club and they won't just "settle for you" they will HARDCORE simp for you and legitimately refer to you as a princess or goddess even if you are 300lbs. (Keep in mind though to get to any high position in these organizations you need to either 1 be super old and have been in the movement for decades, 2 have gone to jail for a violent offense, or 3 be super proficient in martial arts or weightlifting, or 4 be ex military. Before someone says I'm "gatekeeping" no I am one hundred percent not I strongly encourage young white males to NOT make the mistakes I did, everyone will hate you forever, your leaders and brothers won't Evqtb en call or write you when you go to jail for following THEIR ORDERS. If you seriously have nothing better to do after work than get shit faced on mead and say the hard R all night( it's totally not the same as being a liquor head cuz our ancestors bro) then just buy a buy a bottle of Smirnoff and join a discord voice chat atleast that won't completely waste your time on boomers with a leadership fetish sending you to extort people and weaponizing you for your anger issues.

mrkpxx · 2024-03-23T07:09:21+00:00

Seek or demand a man if the industry discriminates against men.

Practical_Example_73 · 2024-03-23T11:25:18+00:00

GO MGTOW

Johntoreno · 2024-03-23T15:25:30+00:00

Because they're fucking cowards, duh! They don't have the balls to go after Femnazis that are corrupting gender relations, so they bully vulnerable men as its much more socially acceptable. What is the #1 thing that white supremacists whine about? its "Muh white genocide" and yet the only ones who are refusing to make more white babies are white women.

Roamer56 · 2024-03-25T18:11:06+00:00

Because it means a faster decline in European (white) Americans, as a percentage of population.

Traditional-Bunch-56 · 2024-03-23T06:30:34+00:00

they dont want the slaves to be self aware

king_rootin_tootin · 2024-03-23T06:35:26+00:00

Because it does not fit into their narrow definition of what it means to be a man.

Geselshaft · 2024-03-23T00:41:41+00:00

Most white supremacy people are all about making white babies, which many MGTOW aren’t into. At least that’s my opinion.

Trad cucks have their religious nonsense and their own make babies agenda.

And worship women and marriage. Both groups worship women.

MGTOW don’t get into marriage and families as much as trad cucks and such.

Ego73 · 2024-03-23T01:53:06+00:00

Because conservatives want men to get married due to their puritanical views. Feminism repackages those views such that it's men's duty to white knight for them to be considered as non threatening allies.

NullIsUndefined · 2024-03-23T00:46:24+00:00

I would guess the white supremacist wants to see the white race grow and mgtow is a threat to that.

Tradcucks also want to see their culture/grow grow

CarefulSection6157 · 2024-03-23T06:00:15+00:00

Because they're all simps!

tronsymphony · 2024-03-23T00:38:08+00:00

She looks like a caveman

Major-Departure6936 · 2024-03-23T04:15:03+00:00

Both are pro natal. They have a great deal of concern over the below replacement birthrates. I am pro natal in an ideal world. Given the state of contemporary society, I'd be wary to bring new people into this mess. The positions of wignats on issues like this frequently aren't sufficiently nuanced given the current context. Do you want a society where your men are competent, strong , paternal figures? Yes, if you value the strength and virility of your group. We have to get ourselves in a position to manifest that before anything.

Also, I'd distinguish supremacists from group identitarians. The former want to Lord over other groups and inflict their rule upon them. The latter merely want a secure homeland and future for their people.

arrouk · 2024-03-23T07:45:51+00:00

I don't see that those groups do hate mgtow

Mgtow makes no difference to either group

Mehmet_Jamukhov_7860 · 2024-03-23T04:15:39+00:00

It is time to re educate them. So that they embrace Mgtow. I just searched this mgtow thing on internet. We need male supremacist things on social media and everywhere.

HinduProphet · 2024-03-23T06:02:50+00:00

Why not fight against the bullshits of feminism, liberalism and leftism instead of opting out ? Seems cowardly.

Tradcucks believe that the world was a better place for men in the 20th century in some ways.

Title	Why do white supremacists and tradcucks hate mgtow?
Author	redbluehandle
Upvotes	71
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Date	March 22, 2024 11:39 PM UTC (2 years ago)
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