Why is male objectification acceptable?

robby7345 · 2013-06-21T21:57:22+00:00

This reminds me of a woman I work with. The usual hypersexual 40 something year old woman, loves twilight, flirts with every single guy, doesn’t know a single boundary, freaked right the fuck out when magic mike came out. You know normal stuff. She does things that would get a male imprisoned on a daily basis. To top it off she is extremely immature, getting pissed at the slightest disagreement with her, I think the worst part is she attempts to take new girls that check in "under her wing" and turn them into little versions of her.

As far as objectification goes, I do not think it is a thing. When you are sexually attracted to someone you do not reduce them to an object, you are attracted to the person's sexuality. Maybe I'm the only one, but I’ve never had the hots for a couch.

UtilitarianByNature · 2013-06-21T20:44:42+00:00

Men are already considered objects with no inherent value (read men's value must be proven). Sexual objectification is no far stretch from there.

PeterSutcliffe · 2013-06-21T20:49:35+00:00

Because you are oozing male privilege, remember?

tactsweater · 2013-06-21T21:28:51+00:00

Imo, it's about power and control. I don't really see any but the most extreme forms of objectification to be much of a problem. Both men and women usually want to be seen as attractive. That said, if you can control the context under which others can express their attraction, you can use that to your own advantage, at the expense of those who find you attractive.

Goatsonice · 2013-06-22T00:57:59+00:00

We constantly hear about women on magazines and how girls feel awful and then develop eating disorders... But when there is some dude on a magazine with muscles exploding that don't even exist it is supposed to have no effect? Boys have eating disorders as well, but are intensely ashamed of it, how do I know? I was called fat when I was 15 by a girl at my high school (My BMI was 19, average is 20-23) and I became extremely concerned about my weight/look. Illnesses are not a one way street, men can get breast cancer, but how many charities are there for that?

Nose_Full_Of_Corn · 2013-06-21T22:28:29+00:00

The answer is because men don't care about it.

Clauderoughly · 2013-06-21T20:43:41+00:00

Because FUCK YOU, MALE SCUM! - Feminists

AloysiusC · 2013-06-21T23:44:30+00:00

There isn't really anything inherently wrong with objectification. The word comes from an attempt to classify action taking and has no dehumanizing or derogatory meaning to it. Feminists only use it as such but it's a misuse of the word.

YetAnotherCommenter · 2013-06-22T09:22:05+00:00

I think another reason is that female sexuality is seen as something which is okay to exercise but male sexuality is seen as potentially dangerous and bestial and violent.

Combine that stereotype with the institutionalized feminist movement's reinforcement of the stereotypes of male sexuality ("Male Gaze", MacKinnon, Dworkin, "Rape Culture" in its hysterical form, etc) as well as the whole "our sexuality was suppressed, so now we're going to reclaim it" historical-victimhood-validates-whatever-we-do-now approach.

OuiCrudites · 2013-06-21T21:33:30+00:00

Because society regards men as utilities only good for the entertainment, provision, and care of women.

rightsbot · 2013-06-21T20:28:17+00:00

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oysterme · 2013-06-21T23:53:03+00:00

Stereotypes. Men are stereotyped as being these lustbeasts who can't control their urges, so that's why this sort of thing is seen as acceptable in our society. In our society, if you're a man, you're supposed to enjoy sex no matter what the context. Otherwise, what's wrong with you? Aren't you a real man who likes sex? etc...

It's always nice when people come to the realization that not all men behave like the teenager in American Pie.

2013-06-22T06:19:48+00:00

I don't believe in a lot of feminist theory like sexual objectification, so I hope the MRM doesn't adopt feminist theory for men.

Yet the double standard that results from gynocentric feminism is infuriating. I would say end it completely, not adopt feminist theories for males.

Xenoith · 2013-06-22T12:21:56+00:00

To be fair most women are not feminists. You run into them mostly online. They're a dying breed, or were a dying breed. Tumblr and reddit have sadly revived the movement into something much worse.

Katiekat33 · 2013-06-22T15:02:48+00:00

I find it difficult to imagine that many guys would speak up and actively express a negative reaction to the female objectifier. This could be for many different reasons, either being unoffended by the comment or being offended/bothered by the comment but believe it would be weird/awkward to call out this out-of-line employee. The latter reaction could be perceived as shy, and thus the employee is probably not getting any negative feedback for her behavior. In an ideal world, the apologetic co-worker should have been the one to notify a manager of this unprofessional behavior. The customer could take action by filling out a complaint card about that employee if they didn't feel comfortable confronting them directly. The thing is, until it is a generally known problem, that this behavior is unwanted/unwelcome/creepy that negatively affects male customers, I don't really see this behavior going away. It is hypocritical in a sense, for females to not enjoy being on the receving end, but partake in the source of offense.

PerniciousOne · 2013-06-22T21:32:01+00:00

It is sad when women value is based upon the size of her breasts* and men are valued on the size of their wallets.

I am using breasts as a metaphor for physical attractiveness. But for the most part men are objectified as the value they provide instead of the person they are.

null_entity · 2013-06-21T21:19:41+00:00

DAE OPPRESSED?

Praefectia · 2013-06-22T15:00:05+00:00

Male objectification is not nearly as prevalent, or as harmful.
Men are not oppressed.
It's not that it's acceptable it's just that I don't care about my oppressors tears.

Super_delicious · 2013-06-22T00:09:24+00:00

I have to say I think men and women are on equal grounds on this one.

anal_cyst · 2013-06-22T03:49:26+00:00

because feminists are hypocrites.

nlakes · 2013-06-22T02:51:50+00:00

I look at it the other way. Why can't we openly acknowledge that hot men and hot women are hot?

When I see reddit's woman-folk going off about "objectification", I laugh at all the posts they make about how they don't like men who goto the gym a lot or who don't shave or who really love children etc etc. But "Ryan Gosling OMG, he is sooooo hot and respects women hrrrnnng"

We need to get over the fact that hot men and hot women are hot and that it's okay to look at them and go "FUCKING. AMAZING!".

I think a woman who is a size 6 with big tits and whose ass and tits hang out is fucking hot, and if that makes some women feel bad, that's you're problem darling. Your feels don't get to dictate what I find hot and what I want to see advertising things I'm interested in. I want to see games or new products launched with hot women and there's nothing wrong with that.

But it makes you feel bad that "this body type" is being held as the ideal and you can't obtain it? Cry me a river. Welcome to reality, not everyone can be super fit rock-stars with summer homes in Spain. Doesn't mean we cannot see that as ideal because you feel bad you will never be that thing.

Underwater_Karma · 2013-06-21T22:33:16+00:00

because men like the attention, and OP should maybe sack up a bit.

PeterSutcliffe · 2013-06-21T22:24:47+00:00

There's that word again: "creepy."

You might have it all wrong. Why is female objectification unacceptable almost all the time? Women buy clothes that are specifically advertised as "flirty" and they only want some men flirting with them, whilst all the others may be getting categorized as creeps.

If you're on a personals website, when are you allowed to say said chick-in-photograph is "pretty"?

One of the things I enjoy about strip clubs is it is the one place where you are allowed to gawk and enjoy it. That's pretty shitty, if you ask me.

Go ahead and turn the tables now again, is my advice. Don't get arrested or anything, but just because you're a male doesn't mean you can't ever take risks. Goddammit.

Title	Why is male objectification acceptable?
Author	PeterSutcliffe
Upvotes	52
Comments	57
Date	June 21, 2013 8:27 PM UTC (13 years ago)
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