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[–]coratoad5 points6 points7 points 10 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Move to Europe? Age of consent is 14 in Austria, Germany, and Italy. In Sweden, France, and Denmark it is 15.
[–]Xemnas815 points6 points7 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Holy shit that's young
[–]Ocean_Squeeze 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Key word being 'consent' here...
[–]Epicureanist 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
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What is this?
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
yeah... no. that doesn't make it right.
[–]lin_cen_die 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Squick.
[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin🔪Yeetus that Feetus🔪9 points10 points11 points 10 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
ephebophilia is perfectly normal attraction to biologically adult females
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
no it isn't.
[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin🔪Yeetus that Feetus🔪1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes it is.
[–]SerpOfZerk 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
I know it hurts, but men want to fuck sexy 15-17 year-olds with nice tits and tight asses
Dick doesn't discriminate
[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
You're right, it does hurt. I've had so many men harass me since I was about 13. It's disgusting. The first time I was sexually assaulted was at 14 on a bus, then 16 when I was shopping. Both men were well into their 40s. I'm glad more young girls are realising the dangers of older men though.
[–]dr_warlockSenior Endorsed0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Dont go and pull the rape card. True or not, those experiences are completely irrelevant. These were obviously not consenual encounters.
Not pulling the rape card at all. At the end of the day they're still minors - why would anyone want to have sex with a child?
[–]SerpOfZerk -2 points-1 points0 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I know
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Good :)
[–]DrunkGirl69Manic Pixie Drunk Girl3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Nah, want who you want. I think what hurts is that they don't want to fuck you.
[–]SerpOfZerk 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Nahh, I'm 19. I could definitely fuck a high school slut
[–]DrunkGirl69Manic Pixie Drunk Girl4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Ah, I guess I thought you were older.
[–]awrestorant1Zyzz died for our sins!0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You're on reddit. I'd reckon that most of the "alpha males" that you're talking to are still in/fresh out of high school.
[–]MyronBlayze2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I think the biggest unanswered question is, how old are you?
[–]appencapndefender of fee fees2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I have a serious question, does TRP think the average 14 year old can consent to sex with someone 18+ and why?
[–]Shadow_on_the_Heath2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Nothing wrong with being attracted to 15-19 year olds (as defined by wikipedia) the vast majority of that age group have matured enough to be distinct from actual children. Just dont sleep with the ones below the age of consent in your jurisdiction.
Also american prudes on this thread lol
[–]Lonny_zone4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (27 children) | Copy Link
Don't let people make you think this is weird. Lefty bullshit has pathologized being attracted to sexually viable females.
"Teen" is the most popular search term in pornography.
It only a problem if you are 100% ephebophilic and incapable of getting an erection for women over 19 years of age.
[–]Xemnas813 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (26 children) | Copy Link
If he's in US or UK and he fucks jailbait then he's…well, going to jail. So it's a problem if he acts on it.
[–]Lonny_zone0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (25 children) | Copy Link
Of course.
I was gonna add that but I thought it was obvious. I just want him to know he isn't sick in the head like many bloops will believe.
[–]Xemnas814 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (24 children) | Copy Link
I am also sympathetic. I hope that he can find a way to live a rich fulfilling life without compromising himself or harming children. I've linked him to some useful discussions on more sombre boards than this.
[–]Lonny_zone3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (23 children) | Copy Link
Do you really think having sex with a 16 year old who has been giving blowjobs since age 13 is "harming children"?
[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 10 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
if they're giving blow jobs to fellow 13 year olds then it isn't an issue.
and yes having sex with a 16 year old is harming them. any well adjusted adult knows that teenagers aren't fully developed yet.
[–]3dbattleship1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I actually think a 13 year old giving a blowjob to anyone is a problem. Yikes.
[–]Lonny_zone0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Why? If she is attracted to me, and I do not coerce her into anything that will harm her (and it is legal) then what damage is done?
You are removing her agency.
[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
how much agency do you think teenagers have? they have to ask their parents for permission to do a million and one things. they aren't as independent as you think. they're children.
[–]Lonny_zone1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
they're children.
They can work for money, drop out of school, drive cars, smoke cigarettes, drink in the UK and Canada, join the army, and reproduce, but you see them as "children."
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, that's because they are children.
[–]Lonny_zone1 point 10 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
That is a great rebuttal.
[–][deleted]1 point 10 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Thanks.
[–]Xemnas814 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link
Well if they're 16 then that's age of consent in my country so it's a moot point. A 25 year old and a 14 year old have a lot difference in maturity.
I can't condone him going to fuck children, for that reason (and in some cases, undeveloped sexual organs) but nor do I like the idea of him being locked up or socially exiled for something as natural to him as liking men is to a gay man.
[–]Lonny_zone2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link
Let me clarify this: teen girls who have started menstruating, and grown pubic hair and breasts are not children. Pedophiles like children.
Now, I live in an area where 16 is the age of consent. Do you think it would be wrong for me to have sex with a sixteen year old?
[–]Xemnas818 points9 points10 points 10 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
Well not legally because that's the age of consent. With that said, I would consider it problematic on the emotional level due to the differences between your and her psychological maturity, life experience and independence.
[–]Lonny_zone0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
What if I had no intent to harm her? I am not gonna get her strung out on heroin (nor do I do heroin lol).
If anything, I would think my maturity and life experience would be safer for her livelihood than an immature teenage boy could provide.
[–]Xemnas818 points9 points10 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
This is entering Lolita territory of moral grey area and you know it.
[–]Lonny_zone2 points 10 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Why? If she is attracted to me, and I do not coerce her into anything that will harm her, then why isn't it in the white area of all other legal relationships.
[–]Xemnas815 points 10 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Unless she's had an MRI scan, there is no way of determining how far her brain has developed. As such there is no way of determining to what extent she understands her choices and the potential short and long term consequences of her actions.
[–]Lonny_zone3 points 10 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
There are 30 year olds who have no idea what the future may hold for them and their partner. How could a teenager?
Many scientists believe the brain keeps developing until age 25. Are 25 year olds incapable of relationships as well?
[–]MagicGainbow2 points 10 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
There are 30 year olds who have no idea what the future may hold for them and their partner.
I know people older than that who still act like teens/have no clue.
[–]GridReXXit be like that2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Not to be moralistic but imagine you had a menstruating 13 yo daughter and a 29 year old man quoted your exact comment to you.
Would you let him fuck your daughter?
What would be your gut reaction?
13!?!?!?
0_0
Ephebobear says: "TOO YOUNG."
[–]GridReXX2 points 10 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
You're the one who said something about her sucking dick since 13. And that all that matters is that she has her period and has boobs.
i did not mean that literally. Some nine year olds have periods and boobs.
[–]apube1 point 10 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
....then what the hell did you mean? You absolutely make it seem like growing pubic hair, having breasts, and menstruation are good determinants for being old enough to have sex with when you say things like:
Let me clarify this: teen girls who have started menstruating, and grown pubic hair and breasts are not children.
I wouldn't be sexually attracted to a 13 year old although she is a teenager, not a child.
[–]dundundundone 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
talk to a professional if you think you have a problem. reddit is not the place for real help.
[–]Xemnas811 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
OP this place is a bit too lunch-fight-y for serious discussion, but you may find this debate useful and similar ones on AskMetaFilter
[–]dallasdarling0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You can thank biology to a small extend, but primarily the culture you are raised in for pushing the sexualization and objectification of children.
As for altering your arousal template - only strict abstinence and finding something to replace it will work, and that is only achievable for a few people. Most people, once their arousal template is set, are stuck.
[–]ummidkhiAlpha Woman0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
stick to adults
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