(TW: Rape) How often does rape occur?

Reginleifer · 2015-07-18T17:54:28+00:00

Lifetime rape

The largest national survey, conducted by the Bureau of Justice Statistics (one of OP's sources) , indicates that rapes and other sexual assaults have been steadily declining over time. For the last reported year, 2013, the prevalence rate for all sexual assaults including rape was 0.1% (prevalence represents the number of victims, rather than the number of assaults since some are victimized more than once during the reporting period). The survey included males and females aged 12+.[2]

This is a rate that somehow magically adjusted for no reporting.

Over the last 4 decades, rape has been declining. According to the National Crime Victimization Survey, the adjusted per-capita victimization rate of rape has declined from about 2.4 per 1000 people (age 12 and above) in 1980 (that is, 2.4 persons from each 1000 people 12 and older were raped during that year) to about 0.4 per 1000 people, a decline of about 85%.

3.6/1000 females in 1995 and 1.1 per 1000 females in 2005-2010

Your 1.1 survey seems to include an expanded definition for "rape", sexual assault.

completed rape or sexual assault declined from 3.6 per 1,000 females to 1.1 per 1,000.

Sexual assault is defined across a wide range of victimizations, separate from rape or attempted rape. These crimes include attacks or attempted attacks generally involving unwanted sexual contact between a victim and offender. Sexual assault may or may not involve force and includes grabbing or fondling. Sexual assault also includes verbal threats

How much of those 1.1 women were merely assaulted vs "legitimately raped"? How many of those assaults were a simple butt grab or something?

There is also contention on "college campuses" being a hotbed for such crimes, with some arguing that it is the most common place for it to occur

I want you to think about this logically Purples.... (cause I know the Blues are beyond help) would you send your daughter to sleep in a bad neighborhood?

http://www.city-data.com/crime/crime-Detroit-Michigan.html

This is the crime rate for DETROIT! Not exactly your average American city.... still less than 1% rape rate.

And yet feminists would have you believe that parents would send their daughters to these rape factories where 1 out of ever 3 women is brutally overtaken by hoardes of fratboys and the other 2 live in fear!

What's worse Purples is that my university had a mere 2 sexual assault case out of a population of 30,000! Which means that somewhere out there, there must be a school raping at much higher amounts!

Oh Purples we must act no- hahahahahahahahahaha!

Atlas_B_Shruggin · 2015-07-18T16:38:27+00:00

If you define rape as any sexual encounter women feel unsure about in retrospect then 100% of sexually active women have probably been raped

PrimePussyOverRancid · 2015-07-18T15:40:46+00:00

1/3 sounds like the Congo. If they're considering women in actual oppressive countries, then I can believe that.

wuboo · 2015-07-18T16:47:25+00:00

I think part of the reason why men have a reaction against this statistics is because they think it implies that a good portion of men are rapists

People should check the numbers before jumping to conclusions. The percentage of men that are rapists are lower than 1/3, it may actually be around 6%. Rapists though, tend to be repeat rapists, and repeat offenders average almost 6 rapes each. A small portion of men are fucking it up for everyone.

http://www.davidlisak.com/wp-content/uploads/pdf/RepeatRapeinUndetectedRapists.pdf

thedeti · 2015-07-18T18:18:33+00:00

Part of the ridiculous commentary you always get whenever this subject is discussed is confusion of terms.

"Rape" is forced penetration without the victim's consent, express or implied.

"Sexual assault" is pretty much everything else -- sexual touching without express or implied consent (kissing, breasts, buttocks, genitals)

I'd venture very, very, VERY few women have actually been "raped" as that term is defined above.

I'd venture a considerably higher percentage have been sexually assaulted.

But the term "sexual assault" is overdefined too. A guy accidentally brushing up against a woman's tits on public transport DID NOT commit sexual assault.

A man escalating a bit too far during a sexual encounter, trying to persuade her into sex with her resisting, and him then backing off, DID NOT commit sexual assault.

A woman deciding the next morning that she really didn't want to let that guy feel her up at that party even though she felt him up too WAS NOT sexually assaulted.

ifelsedowhile · 2015-07-18T15:59:42+00:00

I was assaulted when I was 12 by another kid of my age at a summer camp. he started grabbing my breasts then he took my watch and stuffed it in his underpants. it must have been toxic masculinity that made him do that.

Lonny_zone · 2015-07-18T22:05:38+00:00

Some feminists would go as far as to claim that X% of women that are raped failed to report it. Somehow, feminists found a way to build statistics for something there cannot possibly be statistics of, because their capacity for logical fallacy knows no bounds.

OfSpock · 2015-07-18T23:03:02+00:00

According to rapists

https://yesmeansyesblog.wordpress.com/2009/11/12/meet-the-predators/

Plugawy_Nedznik · 2015-07-19T03:59:54+00:00

The one statistic about rape that always amazed me is that most rapists are someone the victim knows.

And by "amazed me" I mean "found it suspicious as hell".

CisWhiteMaelstrom · 2015-07-19T04:02:19+00:00

If we're using "feminist rape" as a benchmark here then every bit of sex I've ever had was rape. I've apparently even raped women before I lost my virginity. I just don't take the charge seriously anymore. We need a new word to denote actual sex transgressions.

SirNemesis · 2015-07-19T17:06:05+00:00

I'm not surprised by underreporting. It is a difficult crime to prove andnhence likely to go unreported. A critical reexamination of the questions in the original 1 in 4 study yields an estimate of something like 1 in 10 women surveyed having been raped.

Something on the order of a few percent of men surveyed report forcing a woman to have sex with them, so in all likelihood you have a bunch of repeat offenders (extreme case being someone like Bill Cosby).

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MethodiusIV · 2015-07-18T18:43:54+00:00

Outside of places like Congo, rape rarely happens. Like with all crimes though, some people are less likely to be victims than others. Women who live in bad neighborhoods or are reckless in their behavior and whom they associate with are more likely to be raped than others. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that bad things might happen if pass out somewhere or if you're alone with someone or a group of people you don't know.

f3yleaf · 2015-07-18T17:46:09+00:00

There sadly are no credible research on the subject, half the stats spouted by feminists says USA is literally worse then Rwanda during the genocide, which is obviously nuts. I remember the RAINN study and only a 3rd of the people supposedly raped felt that they had been raped and participant selection had a huge selection bias, it was in no way representative. Basically if feminists are involved its probably not credible research, its like getting the Koch's to research global warming.

Cbus_anonymous · 2015-07-18T21:46:55+00:00

CDC says 1/5, DOJ found 1/6, so somewhere between 17-20% of women will be raped in their lifetime. 1/3 was always a projective statistic, and not intended to be interpreted as an absolute number, and it's no longer in use because we have much better largescale, representative datasets now. I'm fully aware though that people were referring to the 1/3 stat as if it was a census, rather than an estimate. The basis for it was projecting off of how many additional people come forward when a rape trial goes public.

Your smaller numbers come from reported rapes, not rapes themselves. About 1/1000 will report a rape at some point in their lifetime.

Part of the problem with understanding these numbers is that there's a widespread misunderstanding of what rape is. Penetration can be with any object, including the penis, so fingering someone against their will is also rape. Regardless of what item is being used, it's not sex, anymore than hitting someone with a hammer is an act of carpentry.

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andrewisgood · 2015-07-19T00:57:09+00:00

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbHl_KgPKBw

I've talked about this video before and I'll describe it slightly, it's only 4:50 so it's not a chore to get through. Cristen talks about rape statistics and lying about rape and such. The jist of it talks about many different sources giving different results, and regardless, one false rape allegation can set the tone for the entire conversation.

What pushed me to become a feminist was hearing stories about unreported rapes and how it may've been too much trouble or too much of a problem, or they wouldn't have been believed, etc. I've said it in another thread but I feel some people, red pillers especially, don't really get rape and they don't really see how complicated it can be. Rape victims don't just have the burden of proof handicap that other crimes have, that should exist. I also feel they vastly, VASTLY underestimate the amount of rapes that do take place. The 1 in 4, 1 in 5 and 1 in 6 stats have been around for awhile, and generally, as much research as can be done, despite how tough it is to know, I feel that could be a good starting point in regards to how often it takes place. But again, due to people not reporting it, I don't think we can ever know how often it occurs.

HappilySingleWoman · 2015-07-18T17:18:07+00:00

It sounds a bit exaggerated that 1 in 3 women has been raped , so I don't believe this stat . However , I believe that sexual assault is more common that some people think , that's according to my personal experiences at least .

Almost every woman that uses public transport has been molested at least once. (at least that's what I get from my experiences and my conversations with friends and family).

Title	(TW: Rape) How often does rape occur?
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Date	July 18, 2015 2:46 PM UTC (11 years ago)
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