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Growing old gracefully

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Title Growing old gracefully
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Upvotes 9
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Date June 23, 2014 11:51 AM UTC
(12 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/RedPillWomen
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[–]gabilromariz 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I'm personally a fan of the natural gray look unless you're all white hair by 35 (it just looks odd).

My gradma has had white-as-snow hair since her 60s but it looks good as long as she cares for it. White hair is frail and porous so it's worth investing in deep conditioning and regular salon appointments (like once a month or so)

My mom has a couple of grays (she's in her 40s) but doesn't fuss over them. I frankly can barely tell unless I'm looking for them. If for some reason on hair is particularely noticeable (in an updo or after a blowdry) you can just touch it with your mascara wand

But she does talk about dying and has thought about it. She'll wait until it's noticeable but she considered having highlights done on the bits with gray, could that work for you?

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[–]proprioceptor[🍰] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

My mother's grey hair has came in pretty early, but she always stayed ahead of it. My dad really doesn't mind whether she lets it go natural gray or not, but my mom got a ton of resistance from her mother when she talked about letting it go. My grandma actually explicitly told her "No, I am not old enough to have a daughter with grey hair. You will continue to dye it as long as I am alive!"

So do whatever you think looks good! There are lots of cute things that you can do with highlights that make the transition from colored to natural grey really nice

[–]gabilromariz 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The worst the the snow-white roots. If you're willing to commit the time and money, my bf's mother got all the hair super white in her late thirties and dyes it dark red weekly ever since becaus if the roots ever show the slightest, it looks terrible.

The hairdresser keeps her using the adequate products to care for her weakened hair and everytime I see her it looks super nice

It's all about your taste and hair. Evaluate your options and possibly ask your hairdresser's opinion

[–]RedPillWife_June2014 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

This is a really great topic, and one I've been thinking a lot on since I'm 37 and want to take care of what I have!

There is a great book out there, "Younger Next Year for Women: Live Strong, Fit, and Sexy—Until You're 80 and Beyond" -very much worth a read. It's aimed for the 40-something crowd, but if we can start these actioin items now while we're in our 30's... well we're that much ahead of the game.

Re: Botox -I've got mixed feelings. I agree that it's easy to look unnatural with it. I have found 'Frownies' on Amazon - it is basically brown stiff paper with glue on the back that you wear overnight, over your wrinkles. Seriously has done great things for my "11's." Mine are pretty much gone now. Lesson to take away: women have been fighting this stuff for decades before botox came along; there are other solutions out there.

Re: Hair dying - I noticed my first grey hairs at 26. 10 years later I've got a mix. Not bad, but not great. I have dark, straight hair. One thing hubby and I agree on is that it is worth the money to get my hair colored correctly at a quality salon. In my early 30's I would basically just get highlights - I prefer a natural look and the highlights keep the grey from being so stark against my naturally dark brown hair. Now I am up to a full head, 3-color process. The extra two dyes are only $10 extra... well worth it to keep things looking more natural IMO. Every other color trip I will get just the top done, not a full head, to save a little $$; doesn't really affect quality.

Personally, I decided a long time ago I was going to fight aging tooth and nail. What is commonly associated with aging is rotting. (See aforementioned book). My mom gave up when she was 30 (long story), and she now looks 20 years older than her real age. I refuse to become my mother in that sense (yes I love her, she is a domestic goddess in many ways). Aging gracefully IMO is more taking care of yourself, and doing the now-extra work to maintain rather than trying to look like you're 20 when it's not there.

[–]MrsKittenHeel 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Thanks, I just downloaded it on my kindle. It has lots of great reviews :)

[–]RedPillWife_June2014 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You're welcome! I really enjoyed the mix of conversational and scientific info.

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[–]little_red_ 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

keeping a good diet and steady workout routine paired with a little hair maintenance is a lot less of a dilemma than being in a relationship with someone who's attraction to you is failing. Hair will become to look like straw when you don't maintain it well enough. A little bit of maintenance will go a long way. There is 0 reason you can't buy a box of hair dye and dump it on your scalp once every week or so and call it a day if you cant afford a hairdresser.

[–]LadyLumen0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I would not dye my hair every week - that is too often. I'd say wait a minimum of 3 weeks.

[–]MrsKittenHeel 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And in that case just do the roots anyhow, because every dye session will make the rest of your hair darker.

And striping your hair of colour damages it.

[–]TempestTcup 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

I'm in my early 50s, and I'm not going to sweat getting older. I do try to eat well and I exercise to keep in shape, and I've noticed that staying slender really helps my face look better.

As far as wrinkles go, remember that laugh lines are much more attractive than frown wrinkles, so keep smiling and try to live a fun, joyous life! I don't use anything on my face except water, coconut oil and a little makeup. I've noticed that my skin is so much softer and smoother since I quit using cleansers; I slather on coconut oil, wash it off with a wet wash cloth to clean my face and then reapply.

I don't have a lot of gray hair, but I do have some. The way I try to hide it is to put subtle highlights in my hair. It doesn't lighten my hair much but it blends the gray in with the highlights. Salon highlights look pretty harsh to me and I'm super cheap! Just be warned - doing your own highlights is a dangerous process; you don't want a big blob of color anywhere!

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[–]BakerofpieEndorsed Contributor 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is what I was going to suggest. I'm a hairstylist and for women who want to cover or disguise gray without a lot of maintenance this is what I always advise. You don't have to keep up with highlights as much, you don't have a stark line as it grows, and thus you don't have to get touch ups as frequently. If you're worried about your hair getting too light you could opt for a few lowlights as well, though I would make sure you have a good stylist who will choose subtle colors that go together well. I've noticed a lot of women ending up with highlights and lowlights that are waaaay too many shades apart and it just looks terrible and unnatural.

[–]TempestTcup 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I've been doing my own hair since I was a kid so I'm pretty good at it but yeah, I went through a lot of trial and error!

[–]tryanotherJuanEndorsed Contributor 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I like the idea of coconut oil. My skin gets really dry in the winter. Do you think you could use it if you still are still prone the occasional hormonal flare up? I think oil could help with my dry skin but I've always been afraid it will cause breakouts.

[–]BakerofpieEndorsed Contributor 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It is very comedogenic (clogs pores). If you never have trouble with acne it can be fine, but it's extremely risky for someone with acne-prone skin. I like grapeseed oil and jojoba oil.

[–]TempestTcup 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I haven't had any problems with coconut oil, but I've never been prone to breakouts.

[–]Frankenoodle 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Oh my mom went gray so early (21) that when I started getting grays at 26 (yes!) she was like, 'oh well you're lucky!'.

The women in my family have always been blessed in regards to skin and bodies. My mom is 67 and her skin is sill gorgeous, she's also maintained her figure well through 3 children. But the grays? They are the bane of our genetics. And mine have come in with full force. I also have very dark natural hair.

So first, I realized that where the gray was coming in (left side of my part) and so on the advice of my hair stylist I begun to part my hair differently. A heavy bang covered up 99% of the gray, so that even in between dying it was fine. I first did this while I was pregnant since I wasn't comfortable with dying my hair then.

The dye I use is fairly gentle, and actually makes my hair nice and shiny for a week or two afterwards. I do go to the salon though.

Most hair dyes these days are fairly gentle as long as you're not trying to lift the color. So just take care of your hair strategically. Part it so that the majority of gray doesn't show (if you don't know how, go to a hairdresser and they probably have some good tips) and then just use gentle dark dyes without ammonia.

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[–]Frankenoodle 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm not sure actually. I haven't had that issue. Part of it might be because as you grow older, moisture levels recede. I'm guessing you need to deep condition a lot more when you have grays because it's so porous. But I deep condition at least once a week so that might be what keeps mine at bay.

[–]BakerofpieEndorsed Contributor 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Boxed color will make your hair feel like straw. I could go into the chemistry of it, but I'm sure you don't have all day and it isn't that interesting. Suffice it to say it is very harsh and damaging. Best bet is to either have it done by a pro or get your color from Sally's where you buy the color and developer separately based on your individual needs.

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[–]MrsKittenHeel 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I like my hubby's grey hairs too.

[–]Bbyybbbaby 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I dye my hair because I am already greying. I usually ask for some sort of semi gloss colour and add a treatment in. My hair is naturally coarse, frizzy and fine but I have a lot of it so I have to work hard to keep it tamed. I use oils in my hair mainly, I usually make a oil concoction for my hair and body and I usually cover myself head to toe in it and let it sit for 10 mins then rinse it off. My body and hair are usually baby soft after the treatment.

Wrinkles, I'm starting to get laugh lines down from my nose. I really need to do something about that. Other then those I'm sitting pretty.

I really don't like the idea of Botox at the moment however I really want LASIK. I recently started having to wear my glasses all the time now and it makes me feel less feminine and more like a librarian.

The 2 things that scare me the most are sagging boobs and bad teeth. My parents both have horrible teeth. So I am ridiculously fanatical about cleaning my teeth and going to the dentist. Sagging boob wise at 19 I read some story about some woman who was in her 70's who had boobs of a 20 year old by wearing a bra all the time. I try to follow it by wearing those genie bras to bed. The only time I'm not wearing a bra is usually when I am getting busy with hubby or in the shower. Even my bikini has underwire.

Yes.... I am crazy

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[–]Bbyybbbaby 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Yeap there are definitely advantages to being small. I'm a D cup and my mothers boob were definitely very saggy in her 30's (probably from breast feeding) but the idea just freaks me the hell out.

I don't know why but for some reason, other women seem to be really comfortable taking their tops off in front of me and boy have I seem some saggy boobs. Hmmm maybe I have been emotionally scarred ;)

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[–]Bbyybbbaby 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol. Nope no Russian friends or roommates,

However I did have some very overweight friends, mind you I was overweight at one part of my life, was mainly eating nonstop and not working out. Hubby told me to shape up or ship out. I lost 38kgs (more then I had gained)

But I digress, these overweight friends would have no fear about walking around topless or in only underwear.

When we would have parties with our group they would regularly make out and paw at each other to get male attention. This was the fuel that kept me from ever being fat again and that made me desperate never to be like them and never ever let my boobs sag. The image is still there every time i feel like slacking and going to get takeaway. It then drives me to the gym to run and lift weights until I can no longer see the image.

I ended up no longer seeing them as friends thank god, as they thought I had become a stuck up bitch. I think it was more all the guys started hitting on me when we were out and hated that hubby then proposed not long after I lost the weight, whilst they struggled to find anyone to look at them

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'd dye. Letting hair be grey can work on some women, but IMO, it's like short hair. Just because some actress can pull it off, doesn't mean you can. My older friend tried it, looked 10 years older, and dropped it, lol.

We both used henna for dye (cheap and doesn't sting), but she switched to normal dyes. If I understand it correctly, regular dye coats hair, while henna penetrates in depth. Maybe that's why her hair kept getting darker each time she used henna. Older hair is supposedly more porous and all. I think when I'm older, I will still use henna, just of a light shade, so the long-term effect is not too dark.

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[–]MrsKittenHeel 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Your ears and nose continue to grow as you age, which is why lots of very old people have big noses.

I am also planning a nose job when I get older because I have bump on my nose which makes it look like it has been broken. Its not big right now, but I do not want a big crooked nose in my 50's or 60's lol.

[–]eatplaycrushEndorsed Contributor 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Frequent activity and a good diet will take care of a lot of these issues as you age, but I know my mother has Botox done time to time and she definitely looks amazing, not bad at all like a lot of poorly done Botox jobs are. You have to have someone who is very well trained just like with anything else if you want it done correctly.

I'm in my 20s. I eat correctly, work out consistently, sunscreen and moisturize daily, don't smoke, hardly drink and when I do it's never in serious excess, don't smoke never have. As for the grey, there's solutions. I agree with others after a point grey hair color can actually look really good if it's well maintained, but highlights are a solid option. It isn't really recommended to use a demi or semi permanent color on grey hair so it's preferred to use permanent to break through the color. They have recently released a product that comes in a few shades for touch ups where your new growth comes in so it blends into your hair color, but it washes out. I would look into something like that as well if you do decide to go a shade or two darker if the grey new growth really bothers you.

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[–]LadyLumen0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

In terms of the hair dying, dying your hair doesn't always make the texture of your hair like straw. That is for the people who bleach their whole head. Highlights are a better approach, because you don't have to have it done as often, and its only on a small part of your hair. You can highlight streaks of your hair along with the gray - maybe dye these parts blonde or some other color slightly lighter than your hair color? It would be a nice way to mask the gray without dying too much of your hair.

I guess in terms of the other anti-aging factors, sounds like you're on the right track: avoid the sun, avoid drugs/alcohol/cigarettes, look into foods that expel toxins like cucumbers and green tea, exercise.

I myself really need to exercise more.

[–]KlaiFrai 1 points1 points1 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I'm going with what my SO wants. He has told me that as long as there's effort, he doesn't care about my aging. More specifically, that I still dress hot, care for my hair and skin, and maintain my usually cheerful disposition. White hair or dyed, I'll make sure it's well cut and conditioned. He's asked for stark white instead of grey hair, and I agree. Since the majority of my wrinkle-causing facial expressions happen in the bedroom, he says that seeing my wrinkles form will give him a sense of accomplishment :P . So I don't fear aging so much because I'll do it the way he likes.

[–]NittanyLioness84 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I am a big fan of hair extensions. Get a couple clip-ins (most gentle) to give your natural hair some lusciousness.

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[–]MegMartinson 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

I respectfully disagree.

My man insists that I let the gray come in naturally. I began dying my hair at the first sign of gray. When he found the empty package of dye, he told me in no uncertain terms to stop it. The discussion continued with the value I present of looking good at my age, whatever it is.

I keep my weight down via diet and exercise. I care for my skin as my mother taught me: sunscreen; keep it clean; moisturize it with lanolin (basically: lamb fat). I've never smoked.

I'm unlikely to be traded in on a younger model. He likes things au-nature. Frankly, so do I.

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[–]MegMartinson 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

nice assault there.

I AM suggesting that they initiate the discussion with their man before starting an anti-aging campaign on themselves. It might save them some trouble and expense in the long run.

[–]little_red_ 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

where was the assault?

[–]Bravon 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Think she meant "insult".

[–]little_red_ 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I still don't see how there was any insult.

One sentence was a statement of fact, the next was a question without any name-calling or anything.

[–]Bravon 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Ha, I'm just talking about the single word, not the message. Assault doesn't make any sense, insult can be construed out of anything and therefore, does make more sense as the word of choice in this situation.

[–]little_red_ 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I just never know anymore with some people on the internet. They get all up in arms over nothing at all.

[–]MrsKittenHeel -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes a bit of a drama llama. Perhaps she meant assumption, and was auto corrected by her phone? Though I would think she would come back and clarify if that were the case. Strange.

[–]aaron_the_just 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The anti-aging campaign should start on day #1.

Also, I'm not sure what you mean by "nice assault there"

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