10 times asking her out, eventually she said yes, now we are married - Don't be this guy

BluepillProfessor · 2014-08-19T15:15:20+00:00

This dynamic follows a predictable pattern as obvious as the sun rising once you unplug.

Girl chooses boy or finally gives in to boys begging.
Girl goes out with thirsty Beta.
Girl decides- consciously or unconsciously- that she has found her Beta bucks.
Girl throws sex at Beta like he has never seen in his life. Beta is happy for the first time in his life. Wow, one of these angelic creatures is giving me some attention!
Girl becomes a hypersexual nymphomaniac, assures Beta of her undying, eternal love, and fucks him silly into a near comatose state- every night for up to several years.
Girl secures ring/commitment/party/honeymoon and Beta bucks all in one night.
Girl begins cutting back the daily sex, often on the honeymoon.
Within a year, the sex is not several times a day. It is not every day. Beta starts to thirst and becomes more and more unattractive.
In a short time it is not every week. Usually it is 1-2 times a month of Beta sex (i.e. 1 pity fuck and 1 ovulation fuck each month).
Beta becomes even more clingy and needy and more unattractive in a death spiral.
She gets borrrrreeed! Cue the "I love you but I'm not in love with you" speech. Alternatively girl just starts cheating (if she hasn't already) and gets the Alpha fucks she needs from outside the marriage.
Divorce-Rape.
Repeat as many times as the woman wants.

CloakedOrchid · 2014-08-19T15:06:01+00:00

Great post. I have a friend who was pining after a girl during the early years of college. She didn't like him, but his whining eventually got her to agree to a date with him. She insisted to do it far away from campus, and when the fateful day rolled around, she said, "Let's get this over with."

How do you even go through with something like that, as the guy? Holy shit.

trpMilo · 2014-08-19T18:09:56+00:00

This started out as a common trope among very high-status men, making a joke at their own expense in order to make their wives, who had always been head over heels in love with them, feel more at ease even knowing that nothing could be further from the truth. Betas believed the lie and repeated it as truth.

Zanford · 2014-08-19T18:07:05+00:00

Wow, yes. Last few marraiges I went to ALL had that same speech by the groom...

...as well as the bridesmaids and his own groomsmen roasting the guy for it.

Wheatspin · 2014-08-19T17:03:16+00:00

A good way to look at a situation like this is - "I had to ask her out 10 times. That means I was literally her last resort." You don't want to waste your time on someone who views you as a last resort do you?

Squeezymypenisy · 2014-08-19T17:23:47+00:00

Interesting. Michelle Obama said Barack asked her out 3 times. Only in the third did she say yes. Despite your politics, the man is quite a character.

tony_douglas · 2014-08-19T18:17:21+00:00

I'm going to play devil's advocate here... but persistence that leads to sex usually isnt beta behavior. Alpha's do this shit all the time, often its a great strategy especially if there is social pressure (ie other friends are trying to set you up or you are very professionally successful etc.). Simply getting it in doesnt make you a beta... sure if you commit to marriage without prenup after two nights of sex, you are an idiot, but I think this doesn't happen for the most part. I think unless you are making $250k+ no woman is going to marry you with the goal of robbery. The divorce tends to be the consequence of longrun beta behavior... not lack of initial attraction. However, certain marriages are bound to fail--- especially if the guy is rich and the girl is 3+ points better looking, best be assured its not going to last..

retroshark · 2014-08-19T16:53:09+00:00

sounds like richard nixon... definitely dont wanna be that guy.

metallica11 · 2014-08-19T17:20:33+00:00

Ok hold on a minute here. I thought that begging for sex with a women never works. Obviously this guy is getting laid. What gives?

If this truly works I'm going to keep begging women to go on dates with me until they finally cave in and sleep with me, and then when I get them in bed, fuck them mercilessly and then let them go.

I'm being facetious but seriously, seems like it works (know guys that have pursued and pursued and literally begged and finally got laid).

the_irish_kid123 · 2014-08-19T19:13:33+00:00

And Divorce Corp has a new future client.

2014-08-19T19:30:54+00:00

Even pre-RP, my first rule of relationships is respect yourself. If you don't have self respect there are two possible outcomes: either your SO will take complete advantage of you, or in the off chance they really love you, you won't respect them for sticking with a loser like yourself.

priusowner666 · 2014-08-19T20:04:58+00:00

Back in 2004 a female friend of mine told me this when I was crazy about this hot Bulgarian girl who wasn't giving me the time of day, I paraphrase: "If a woman likes a man, she will make sure he knows. If she isn't interested [from the beginning] there is nothing he will ever be able to do to change her mind." ... with that knowledge, I've stayed single ever since. No marriage for me.

kick6 · 2014-08-19T15:26:57+00:00

The brides have been way more attractive then the beta/ugly/low value groom.

You still subscribe to the fallacy of equitable physical attractiveness.
Remember: women's attraction triggers are more broad-based than men's and include social status, wealth, and power. Therefore it is VERY unlikely that the male will ever be the more attractive - or even equally attractive - one in the relationship.

randyquestions · 2014-08-19T15:19:03+00:00

I'm going to play the devil's advocate in this post, so bear with me. I mean, asking out a girl more than one time is not a bad thing. 10 times however, is excessive, and even if she does say yes she is going to treat you like shit. It really depends on the situation and the person, and if the girl likes you.

I mean, some girls, even if they like you, will not go on a date with you if everything doesn't feel 100% good for them. I once delt with a girl that liked me, and she turned me down twice. After she rejected me the second time, I told her that I knew she was interested — it was blatantly obvious! She told me that she did like me, but she thought I was playing games or a player. Eventually she asked me out though.

I think the max amount of time you can ask a women out without losing your dignity is probably 3 times. Anymore than that is excessive.

myprimetime · 2014-08-19T18:39:44+00:00

Yeah, the last thing you want to do is give her all the power in the relationship by being a needy bitch.

Either you are both on the same level or better yet she is beneath you bending over backwards trying to keep you.

You need to make yourself to be the catch...she should be proud of finally snagging you

yummyluckycharms · 2014-08-19T19:02:58+00:00

"Yes they've ended up married, but are these men really men?"

Real men dont get married. With all of the evidence that has been collected over the past few decades, which quality man will get married? They aren't men - they are wallets.

I give that guy around 5 years or so before he gets divorced

Panzer_Geist · 2014-08-19T19:38:18+00:00

It kind of depends. If you're hitting on girls and they're with their friends or not drunk they will often play hard to catch. They won't come with you to the dance floor immediately. You have to keep at it. Dismiss their rejection. That's not the same thing as clinging to them, trying to dry hump them or following them around a club all night. Persistence in the right situations is the correct way to do things. Asking your biology lab-partner out 10 times despite being rejected every time is beta as fuck.

boredinclass2 · 2014-08-19T19:47:48+00:00

and most of these girls have been relatives of mine. Not slutty actually at all, more of the princess culture. Beautiful but snobs. So they don't fuck about with Alpha cock. They are more attention whores.

dude, Im sorry to be the one to break this to you... but even relatives can ride the carousel.

Scoundrel_ · 2014-08-19T22:12:16+00:00

Over the past year or so, I've come to understand that there is absolutely a virtue in being "persistent" with certain girls, and even a place for literal begging.

One of the prominent seduction guys (I forget who) said once that he will do whatever it takes to get a girl into bed, including begging her if need be, on the idea that once she receives the most awesome sex of her life from him, the entire dynamic changes.

My perspective is: Get that girl into bed by hook or by crook. Many girls are off in sexual la-la land: They're in relationships with idiot "boyfriends," they just broke up with a guy and are not yet ready to start dating again... blah blah blah.

I'm going to blog about this at some point, but if you know that you are the greatest, most Alpha thing that could ever happen to a woman, then it is absolutely possible to be persistent WITHOUT being needy or beta.

Title	10 times asking her out, eventually she said yes, now we are married - Don't be this guy
Author	redditredpill
Upvotes	71
Comments	54
Date	August 19, 2014 1:41 PM UTC (11 years ago)
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