[FR] The Deep Conversation Cockblock

Holyballs26 · 2018-02-16T11:56:07+00:00

Solid post. I learnt this a few years ago. The more you care about connecting/impressing a girl, the lower the chance of banging her. Some of the hottest girls have banged are those that I talked weird sexual shit with while drunk e.g telling them about threesomes and how women secretly want to be fucked hard. They can always sense you dont give a fuck about what they think about you and that will turn them on. Fuck playing safe, just grab them by the pussy!

GrumpyCatzz88 · 2018-02-16T10:39:37+00:00

Unpopular opinion maybe but i've and experience something similar.

Mario Luna is Spanish PUA and one of his friend has this problem where girls don't want to have sex or at least is what he thought, Mario told the guy, " Just pull your dick out and fuck her" , and thats what his friend did, he then commented that the girl sucked his dick like a vacumm cleaner and ride him like a champ, she always wanted to have sex but womans (most of them) are to afraid to take the lead because they'll appear slutty. Reading this i did the same thing with one girl and she almost dry me up, i got the same results.

Next time you are in that situation on your house, sexualy make out and just pull your dick out. IMHO

woodie_wood · 2018-02-16T16:55:50+00:00

She drove 40min. because she was hungry for emotions. She had a choice between eating @ “Chad’s all u can bang thunder cock” and “ Joe’s friend-zone banter burgers”.

redhawkes · 2018-02-16T22:38:08+00:00

Only if there was some post on the sidebar called 'The pre-fuck conversation is one big autism screening test'...

At least, lesson learned. Don't verbalize attraction.

henry1011 · 2018-02-16T08:59:34+00:00

Great post. I have a girl coming over for the first time tonight. I think there are a few key things to making things sexual and they all stem from being 'horny' or in that mental space yourself first. If you are feeling that sexual thirst it will show itself in a thousand little ways that girls will pick up on. Touch her early and often, cuddle, hold her, kiss, and let that develop over the night. You can't just talk for hours and then take her to bed and expect to bang. Women need to feel like it 'just happened that way'. I've had a few experiences (we all have) where you have everything in common with a girl, have deep conversations, make a deep and meaningful connection and really it seems like you are perfect together.. Then she won't fuck! Clearly all that having things in common and deep connection is total bs and actually if you find you have a lot in common make sure she doesn't realise it. Far better to call her a nerd, slap her ass and just carry on the teasing/ banter/ touching.

Stationarity · 2018-02-16T20:01:12+00:00

This is why Chad is more likely to reproduce than the Valedictorian.

Flying_Wingback · 2018-02-16T21:31:18+00:00

This happened to me last night. I went out with a Ukrainian girl that I had already told over the phone "I like your face, we gonna make out at a red light" but me being a dumbass and talking about business strategy before fucking her caused all sexual tension to fade away

beta_no_mo · 2018-02-16T10:19:00+00:00

Plenty of time to have meaningful conversation (if you're into that) once you've got her hooked on the dick. Once she's hooked, to her you become a sexual beast that is deeper and more intriguing because your sexuality becomes the frame from which she views you in everything going forward.

Your SMV is the bait that makes her bite and good dick is what sets the hook.

RAiderNat88 · 2018-02-16T22:10:11+00:00

This was my Achilles heel because while girls enjoy those conversations, they don't turn them on.

Not necessarily, I would say you just failed to lead the conversation back into a sexual frame. Deep convo is absolutely fine, especially when you can incite strong emotions in the bitch. I think you spent too much time comfort building and didn't throw in enough flirting. She drove 40 minutes to get fucked like the whore she is, next time give it to her first and then let her spill the beans about the stars, death, and whatever the fuck else she wants.

SilentAlpha · 2018-02-16T14:35:28+00:00

I’ve done the deep conversation thing and had some great sex. The red pill truth is she just wasn’t into you enough. She was willing to come over and give it a shot but in the end no matter what you did she wasn’t going to have sex with you.

dRePe_Thill · 2018-02-16T22:51:10+00:00

Very interesting FR, this week I hooked up with a date, went to her place and she overtly mentioned, while making out and touching, that she wanted to have a deep conversation before moving forward. I treated this as more of a shit-test and just did a quick A&A, but I think that you have a very good point that a deep conversation could mitigate the sexual vibe. I want to take another look and mention that in my earlier years of PUA sometimes having those conversations are usually to build comfort and DMV, so an approach that would make more sense would be to have those deeper conversations initially and then moving to a more sexual vibe.

EddTheEdducator · 2018-02-17T02:08:16+00:00

Valid point but i believe it can be done in both ways. Iv fucked girls by just saying the first stupid/ horny things that come to mind without a care for her opinion. BUT Ive also fucked girls that Ive sat on a bench/beach for 2 or 3 hours just talking about emotions/life/people etc. i believe its about distinguishing yourself while setting that sexual undertone. Either brazen to the point confidence or deep eloquent conversation BUT the sexual undertones have to be set.Just don't sound like every other guy playing it safe or trying to hard to sound deep, be real.

Usziel · 2018-02-18T01:00:41+00:00

Man, I swear these bitches don't know what the fuck is more important to em The more I kick philosophy, the more I'm boring to em "The more champagne I pop, the more I'm pouring to em I just hope that's not the only single thing that's going through em." - Big Sean knew what was up but you went into detail on the process of what happens. No more deep talks with shallow thots.

OneRedSock · 2018-02-19T18:19:07+00:00

Easy rule of thumb:

If you're looking for deep conversations, save it for your bros. There's a reason men historically have had men-only clubs where they discuss business and other affairs among each other. You should be cultivating male-male relationships that assist in pushing your thoughts about deeper philosophical topics, building power, financial stability, etc.

If you're looking to fuck, keep it light, fun and flirtatious. Why do so many young professional women work M-F then get shitfaced on the weekends? They're smart, well educated, and are capable of holding intelligent conversations; so why do they want to turn their brains off when they're away from work? Because they don't want you testing their cognitive capabilities after they've spent 40+ hours doing that shit; they want an escape from the seriousness and mentally demanding atmosphere of work. Be that escape.

Gozsayin · 2018-02-17T06:17:04+00:00

Take me thumbs up bro. New to the redpill but this is exactly what I needed to read. I aways thought a deep conversation was the key element and last minute gaming but over the years it always failed me even when I was close. Then I realized that their a time for action and a time for talking

zealanderx · 2018-02-17T01:49:29+00:00

I think this whole concept is really important-

What's really important is to appeal correctly to the basic needs of a woman- a sexual frame.

Then if that's good, and the rest is good...then your off to the races and in trouble

mml76gs · 2018-02-17T04:58:39+00:00

Or: never tell people what they can't understand (try to talk them about what they can't understand) if you want them well-disposed toward you.

Or: remember that the battleground is her unconscious — where drivers are primal and millennia-evolved. It's even pre-verbal. Words are needed for more civilized, complicated enterprises, and are harmful whenever not needed.

vitamann · 2018-02-19T16:21:27+00:00

Excellent post! I began to look back at interactions that went this way, and I completely agree. You can feel a sexual frame coming from deep in your gut/groin. Where as deep conversation come from your mind/heart.

I'm going to cut the deep shit out, and instead just focus on having a sexual intent and communication even if my words aren't sexual.

This is genius.

this is one of the downfalls that introverts run into, we tend to have deep views of the world and life in general

Indeed, and girls like this, and then we become their friends...

zyqkvx · 2018-02-21T00:46:55+00:00

Girls can learn after we fuck about my views on the world and shit, that's when we can have deep conversations.

At least you get one fuck out of it that way. Reading that sent up a red flag in an otherwise solid post.

darkknight-01 · 2018-02-18T18:38:37+00:00

If you're not on the nofap, get on the nofap.

Benga123 · 2018-02-16T13:43:03+00:00

I had sort of the opposite problem. I used to have this insane candida infection on my penis which I probably got from some dirty vag. I liked hanging with this one girl, we where really intimate but I didn't want to initiate sex since I had this problem on my dick, lol. So we talked a lot. After like the 10th time we hanged she said that she wanted to be friends, me and my big ego just brushed her off. I wonder what she was thinking, lmao

Euphoricentia · 2018-02-16T20:33:01+00:00

This whole post was unnecessary, you could have just said not to talk about deep views as that is not what gets them turned on

[FR] The Deep Conversation Cockblock

God damn.

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Title	[FR] The Deep Conversation Cockblock
Author	MrDiece
Upvotes	197
Comments	53
Date	February 16, 2018 8:41 AM UTC (8 years ago)
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