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Get laid in 2022

March 17, 2022
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So inspired by a recent post highlighting the dating lanscape of Gen Z girls and having a talk with a sad pathetic loser with a kind heart that was lamenting his failure as a mate based on his Tinder success rate I tough I'd write this.

Yes it's this easy, but this is with years of experience and hindsight. I know very well that was is a stepping stone for naturals, guys with the look and guys with balls freshly drained - can seem like a clift for the guy that can't even think straight when the cute MILF cashier tells a joke.

Caveat1: Work out. First strength, then endurance and then calistenics for that porn star experience. NON NEGOTIABLE!!! Think of it as a sentence until you get out of incel jail. In addition to this - also submit yourself to regular grooming and housework. I don't care about your opinion. Just do it, you will get to talk after you get fucks. Last note: wardrobe. Spend 500$ on clothes that people wear, not clothes you like. You can do it at a rate of 50-200/ month./ I don't believe you have internet but don't have the money for an article of clothing that makes you look like part of the human race.

Caveat2: You can't be a virgin, or insecure about "performance". Go find a thai massage, hooker or fly to Oregon/amsterdam/thailand. Get it out of your fucking system like it's a wart on your dick. At worst you get a STD, which you can treat with medicine. But your brain block, that has stayed with you and has done more damage to your ability to be intimate than any STD I know.

Caveat3: You will not find love with this "program". Women touching you, taking your dick, calling you daddy do not love you. It's just how the female sex act looks. It's a fantasy women give themselves to make casual sex more meaningful and enjoyable. Indulge if you want, but understand IT'S NOT LOVE. You will however find through sex the emotional balance and ability to understand other people - that can then help you understand what love and genuine connection is however.

Step 1. Be social, do stuff, meet women OFFLINE!!! The dude I was talking about has a kind face, and is 6'6. He has no full body picture. Online is literally a beauty pageant for men. Unless you that 5'2 midget with the fuck boy face - DON"T! Women are attracted to competence and men doing shit. Get out there and put yourself in situations where women can see you do stuff. Seriously.

Step 2. Be kind. There has never been a time when kindness and being personable was more rare and required more balls. Now, major clarification. Kindness is not niceness. Kindness comes from strenght and is something you give. Never something you are asked for, or pushed into giving. Any time someone asks something, be a cheeky motherfucker and ask for something back. If you are not neurotypical this contradiction made your head reset. But trust, it works. Always be kind, and want to help. Never agree to help or give help to someone asking for it. Especially when not asking you for it directly. Note for non-neurotypicals - this is not to get people to like you - this is to showcase that you have a caring and giving nature - you aren't traumatized and don't come with an inferiority complex - while the denial of service showcases your ability to stand for your own and enforce boundaries. The giving WILL NOT SCORE POINTS, the attitude of giving when I want (emphasis on the I)- is what scores the points.

Step 3. Never hide your dick as the late Tom T. would say. Sex is not bad, sex is not shameful, sex is not predatory (regardless of your fantasies), sex is just 2 adults having fun and giving one another pleasure. When you proposition a woman - it is not with the energy: give me your body. It is with the energy, I want to play with your body. Even in the most BDSM scenario, and the most vulgar approach - the difference between chumps and chads is that chads always have the playful energy behind the most coldest of eyes. This very subtle thing makes the difference between a chump that wants her body in exchange for his life. And a chav that just wants to have fun with her like a 15 year old skamp. Master this, master not being ashamed, not avoiding sexual topics, not judging and being forward and telling women you want to spend time with them or you find them attractive and want to spend time with them. And when you do, have fun, enjoy the time, her attention, her reactions, her body, her soft skin, her wet mouth. Let yourself be that 10 year old that saw a breast for the first time and have at it. It's ok to be silly and fun. SHe already likes you, what happens now is just silliness and fun.

That's all. Nothing complicated, but I acknowledge it's difficult. Go out and slay. May 2022 be a year of new experiences, and fun.

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Title Get laid in 2022
Author zino193
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Date March 17, 2022 10:21 AM UTC (10 months ago)
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[–]Loud-Bottle-7879 48 points49 points  (18 children) | Copy Link

The clothing/appearance thing is really slept on, people underestimate this. Would highly recommend one of AMS old videos along the lines of “most of you need an image consultant, not a dating coach”. We have to keep in mind to get your foot in the door with that initial impression you MUST sell them a dream. You must look the part.

[–]1zino193[S] 30 points31 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

It's more of a - you must be this socially aware to ride... sort of thing.

Women won't sleep with men because they are fashionable. But will definitely ignore and be weary of men that don't have a basic appropriate apparel or hygiene. It just screams - this is wierd.

And you have to make a hell of a amazing first impression to overcome that.

[–]Loud-Bottle-7879 7 points8 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

Social awareness is key. It’s not even the clothing that does it, it just shows you have self respect and know how to act in certain situations. It’s like the guy who shows up in jeans and a polo to a wedding, we all know these people.

[–]1zino193[S] 6 points7 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

Yeah but that guy gets laid, especially around envious single women and anxious brides. I want to keep this simple and just focus on not being unfuckable 101. That means to dress civilized unfortunately.

[–]Loud-Bottle-7879 8 points9 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

This is not as common as people would think. I work in software dev and am surrounded by guys making 120+ that dress like complete slobs and can’t get laid. Idk I just say observe people around you and see what works.

[–]Loud-Bottle-7879 5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

One other thing I want to mention about your list that I have seen. One point I would make is “speak less”. Can’t tell you how many guys I have watched talk themselves out of getting laid. That’s not a 101 point though but another thing a lot of people don’t realize.

[–]Glenncinho 3 points4 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Can you point me to some resources? I feel like I’m lacking here big time

[–]Loud-Bottle-7879 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Man there’s so many I don’t know where to begin. I never really dug too much into resources as far as how to dress goes. I just picked up on it from my older brother who would dress business casual as casual. Nice pair of jeans, button down tucked in and some decent shoes.

My whole thing is just dress for the situation. Do not wear gym clothes to go get a drink, etc. it’s really not rocket science. I also take the view that what if I bump into the governor or my next boss? Wouldn’t want to be dressed like a complete slob.

[–]1chopping_livers 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I'm not an expert regarding this, but:

Style. Find a look you want to have & go for it.

Fit. Make sure it fits you well and you feel good in it.

Color. A beginner tactic is to find palette of 3-4 colors that go together well and make the whole wardrobe out of them.

Quality. I feel the best wearing quality rather than fast fashion items, even if it means a smaller wardrobe. They last longer, tend to look and fit better.

Occasion. Focus on improving one at a time. Have a good look for your job. Then add "downtown with friends" one. Then a quality "gym/training". Tailor it to your lifestyle, start with most sociable one, add as needed. The more occasions you cover, the more interchangeable they becone.

Godspeed.

[–]1empatheticapathetic 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

For fashion retards this advice isn’t actionable. It’s still too theoretical. Need examples tbh.

Everyone can understand what you said but still don’t know where to start.

[–]writethefuture3 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

resources

Yes

[–]thepaintsaint 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

My now-wife, then-GF was suddenly far more attracted when I simply changed the style of jeans (at her suggestion). More fitted, not quite slim fit. Suddenly she loved seeing me in my normal outfit of jeans + tee.

[–]writethefuture3 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

By many but not by all

[–]Nebelacire 219 points220 points  (37 children) | Copy Link

Oh boy, i really hope one day you educate yourself on the topic of stds. Just saying they can be treated with medecine is just plain wrong and dangerous

[–]SiliconeGiant 61 points62 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Don't you know about medicine, the magical cure for all?😆

[–]c4rdc0llector11 12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

kids think these days you solve everything with a magic pill here and there. insane!

[–]Ispirationless 31 points32 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Also, paying for a good prostitute and using protections is good enough. You don’t really need to go for the cheapest lowest of the low whore that’s available on the market.

[–]___Keyser___Soze___ 28 points29 points  (17 children) | Copy Link

Right on man. Nothing worse than someone who thinks he knows what he's talking about. This is why I really don't pay attention to any post unless its from endorsed, senior endorsed or vanguard members.

[–]1redhawkes 45 points46 points  (16 children) | Copy Link

Even then, take it with a grain of salt. The larp is over the roof the last couple of years when the OG's abandoned ship.

The real gold nuggets are in the 2014-18 posts, everything after that is beating a dead horse. Sort by top, read and implement.

The purplepill shit you're seeing now is byproduct of halfassing the sidebar+bluepill fantasy by larps with no skin in the game. Esoteric mental masturbations.

[–]c4rdc0llector11 14 points15 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

yup the gen z crowd finally have their balls semi dropped and had their first pp touch thinking they can lecture to the vets. hence all the shit posts all across reddit and social media.

[–]___Keyser___Soze___ 5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Cheeky af. If it was in the real world they'd just get a slap, unfortunately the whole internet thing where everyone is ten feet tall and knows everything.

[–]b2daoni 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

hence all the shit posts all across reddit and social media.

I honestly think quarantine may have contributed to this effect.

[–]___Keyser___Soze___ 10 points11 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Thanks for the timeline info. Definitely noticed a lot of BS posts here, like fuckers theorising what's what. I know a lot of people on here don't like Andy from Kill Your Inner Loser but he made a good point about this a while ago, don't sit here talking shit about how you think it will be. Go out, cold approach 1000 bitches then come back and tell us all about your observations.

Definitely can tell people haven't read the sidebar and handbook and absorbed it.

[–]teucy 5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Cold approach 1000 bitches lmao. Who genuinely has time for that

[–]throwwayhubu 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Prf Nicolas Taleb, the worlds foremost authority on Risk and Risk management even has a book called "Skin in the game" where essentially he argues that unless someone has skin in the game, they should not be in a position to manage anything. You need a vested interest in something in order to trully contribute.

[–]1redhawkes 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

For others who want to read it https://archive.ph/8jUJG

[–]2Simptopimp-co-uk 2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

+1 for reading the old posts

[–]FAKH89 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Holyshit you're hamza !! Huge fan man, still trying to better myself but by the second week I can feel a backlash from my mind , it's like a force repelling me forcing me to return to bad habits or I feel like shit . It's this resistance that I find myself unable to break through kinda like trying to quit drugs , any advice mate and keep up the good work!!!

[–]Carboneraser 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Do you know how to search posts from a specific year? I joined in the first month of this subreddit opening when it didn't have many members at all, but the effort that went into posts was way higher.

If you search for the top of all time, you'll mostly see posts from the year before this sub was quarantined. It had more members and was most active, but the content just isn't that great.

[–]shittyfuckdick 9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Most of them can though. But the risk of HIV, HPV, and pregnancy mean you should still use protection

[–]c4rdc0llector11 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

seriously who tf wants to deal with herpes the rest of their life?

[–]minbooz 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You’re more likely to get an std from a hookup than a hooker though

[–]Aggravating-Bet-2637 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

What a stupid and ridiculous post. I couldn't read it beyond the clothing part.

[–]wine_vs_milk 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Here's the politically incorrect education:

  • We have vaccines for hepatitis A and B and HPV. Take them. There is no test for HPV in men.
  • HIV and hepatitis C are the only dangerous STDs, but you have near zero risk of catching them if you sleep with a hooker who avoids African American men.
  • Gonorrhea, chlamydia, and syphilis are bacterial and can be cured with antibiotics.
  • Nearly everyone has HSV1, and about 15% have HSV2. 80% of carriers don't know they have it. 75% of carriers never experience any symptoms. The remainder experience symptoms no worse than a blister or rash. Not a big deal. The CDC recommends you don't even get tested unless you show symptoms because the stigma is worse than the disease.

[–]Dingleator 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Check out some of this guys comments. He’s a grade A moron!

[–]BarelyLegalTeenager 90 points91 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Ah yes, wearing conformist designer clothes and getting an STD from a whore in Portland will definitely help you with women. Are you also part of the coomer crowd who's waiting for hot Ukrainian singles to knock at their door ?

[–]writethefuture3 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Learn cold approach, if you can avoid being a weird spergy zombie.

[–]1hatethis 20 points21 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I like it. It’s very basic info and you’re not providing any resources (Pinterest is a goldmine for clothing inspiration) but it’s true nonetheless

A few things:

  • The STD part. It’s retarded
  • Calisthenics. I wanted to kill myself last time I had to do it for 3 months because the gyms were closed. Except it being mind bogglingly boring it’s also not beginner friendly and not progressive overload friendly. You’re a lot better off just running a basic strength/ hyper trophy program with weights
  • I feel like in 2022 social media matters the world. People will ask and check for your ig. Mine is shit I barely use it but a guide on how to go from zero to hero on that shit without overdoing it and getting sucked into it would be key to “2022 game” I believe

[–]1zino193[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

STD part - if you are a adult that fucks, you're gonna have a lot of STDs, it's only American puritanism that make it seem worst than it is. Most STDs - THE WIDE majority are not life long crippling conditions.

Agreed on your critiques - but you're missing the benefit they have on your bedroom moves. Most men - suck at sex. Literally they are worst than disinterested hookers. Calistetics, yoga, "primal workouts"(not sure what the term is, some marketing BS) involves creating control and endurance that makes your body a sexual tool. It gets you from - "my god woman, it's been 10 minutes let's change position my thighs are burning"... to "What, given up already, you're such a weakling, we still have an hour to go"

Social media is a commercial avenue for most people in the know. If you think social media gets you clout in 2022 - you kinda expose yourself to being a rookie and shouldn't probably use it for clout. Use it for family and dogs and the stuff you share with your friends... and make it a "comfort qualifier" you just show off occasionally, rather than leading with it as a hook.

Website - websites are back. If you really wanna play the social media game, pump up your twitter, linkedin, youtube - and make it a professional ramp. Having a professional internet pressence with hours of content about your expertise is the new social media, because it's much harder to "fake" or stage.

[–]filli1aj 37 points38 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

If someone advises you to go out and get an STD, it’s on you not to finish reading the post.

[–]Aggravating-Bet-2637 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Exactly, what a stupid post.

[–]FarFromAverage7866 8 points9 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Women touching you, taking your dick, calling you daddy do not love you. It's just how the female sex act looks. It's a fantasy women give themselves to make casual sex more meaningful and enjoyable.

Yup. Guys really think when this happens that she's "totally" his. In reality, it's all a fantasy ingrained her mind to call this to a man who she perceives as "powerful" in her eyes. But does she actually "love" him? Nope. Respect? Maybe, that's why she's letting you fuck her in the first place.

In the end, women especially in bed will "submit" bc that's in her primal nature, but "love?" Nah. Majority of women who love to get beaten, tortured, abused, they don't genuinely like the abuser, rather they like the abuse because it's done by the guy who knows what he's doing.

Sadomasochism.

[–]youngfuture7 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah its a dangerous trap, however some women have trouble letting you go or really push for a relationship if only your sex is good.

[–]1zino193[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Kinda agreed - I think abuse is something you can trust. If you see the beastly nature of man, you know him at his rawest form. There's nothing he hides from you, and that offers comfort.

It's strange for men, as we mostly operate based on face value ques. But it's fundamental for women. Women need to know who you are and what your potential is in any situation. That's what it means for a woman to know a man, to trust or respect him. THat's the whole point of dating, why experiences work better than conversations, why drama is preferable to chilling, why memorable sex - good or bad, is preferable to ok sex.

[–]CoolKid2326 13 points14 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Don't listen to caveat 2 lmao

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil 17 points18 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

I feel like this isn't so much advice as you justifying your utilization of prostitutes to yourself

[–]1zino193[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I don't have to justify it, I love them :D

I do feel like you are trying really hard to justify living without the touch of a woman - in a world where you can just pay them and they'd happily touch you.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is the response I was looking for

[–]BarelyLegalTeenager 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

When will you post about WW3 GLO ?

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Early next week. I just finished it today

[–]CPT_JUGGERNAUT 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

The Russia Ukraine bullshit is smoke and mirrors being used to implement the great reset.

[–]SoA_MC 3 points4 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

You’re wrong about the clothes. You shouldn’t wear "clothes that people wear" that is sheepish, following, try-hard behaviour lol.

You wear what suits you, and what’s appropriate for the setting that you like and find comfortable.

[–]1zino193[S] -2 points-1 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

No, you don't get to set your standard.

Especially when you're just starting out.

There's no beauty in all shapes and sizes, there's no style in whatever you want.

[–]SoA_MC 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I didn’t say there was beauty in all shapes and sizes wtf.

Wearing certain clothes you don’t necessarily like just because other people wear them, is pathetic.

[–]1zino193[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Pathetic or not, it's the social norm.

Just like conventional beauty "standards". It showcases you're not autistic or socially marginalized. Which most men that are strugling to get laid, especially that lurk around here, are.

[–]Travex- 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Lmfao you know the post is going to be a fiesta when OP casually brushes off STDs with "medicine" like you're popping a tylenol for a headache. So much cringe here these days.

[–]Material_Mongoose339 12 points13 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

I choose to completely ignore and forget the STD part, otherwise I'd throw up.

But also fuck spending that ridiculous amount of money on clothes you don't like. I somewhat get what you're saying, that some men don't have style in clothing. But they won't have style even if they brainlessly copy people around them. I'd say better go with what you like, it makes you stand out more.

[–]Medval91 2 points3 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

What this thing about Oregon? 👀 Is it legal over there?

[–]Loud-Bottle-7879 1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Bro they are EVERYWHERE. Listcrawler would be a good resource if you are looking. Also with most things in life….if the offer looks too good to be true, it always is.

[–]Medval91 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Speaking from experience I see.

[–]Loud-Bottle-7879 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Yessir, I have had a few of them. I will warn you though, pay for whores are mentally and spiritually broken. Its not for the faint of heart.

[–]TAAyylmao 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Using internet sites leaving a digital trail seems like a horrible idea. I live in oregon and the only way ill bang a hooker is legally in nevada.

[–]1zino193[S] -1 points0 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

I heard some news last year about it wanting to make it legal. Not sure what came of it, but you have Nevada otherwise. It's definetly legal in Vegas.

[–]ProFriendZoner 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

Da fuq? Not sure what you are saying is legal is Las Vegas but it's not prostitution.

[–]1zino193[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Oh no, it's definitely legal in Nevada, they even made TV shows about it.

[–]ProFriendZoner 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Prostitution is NOT LEGAL in Las Vegas

[–]Comfortable_Echo4253 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's legal in counties right outside of vegas. Look up bunny ranch nevada

[–]Assyindividual 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

The last point is the most important. Own your sexuality and your interests, and it’s easy from there.

As well as be kind.

[–]1zino193[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

It's a process... if you can't even get out of the house, or dress like a 12 years old, you can be mister PIMP - nobody gonna get a chance to be charmed by your sly tongue and whore monger sway.

If you ooze sadness and anger - no girl gonna see all the kinky imagination you have.

[–]Assyindividual 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You’re looking at it the wrong way around. That stuff falls under what i said. Being comfortable in yourself and being kind lead to the other things

All in all, we’re both right

[–]Mammoth-Nehk 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I fucked a hooker, condom fell off I think I got the clap hopefully no hiv though... lol

[–]1zino193[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

As long as she didn't charge extra for the rawdoggin, you got off easy

[–]TheExiledPrince 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

First strength, then endurance and then calistenics

Why not suggest starting with hypertrophy and progressive overload from there? If you are going for aesthetics, youll pack on muscle faster, and get "some" strength gains, instead of going all out strength you might or might not need.

[–]1zino193[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Strenght is a essential systemic neurological adaptation. (same with endurance workouts) THis guide is not to look good, but to fuck up your cheeto gamer boi body and grow it into that of a healthy fit man.

Also at first, when you're a newb, strenght focus will force more growth out of you than regular 20 sets - where because of your lack of metabolic endurance - you will probably under estimate. Essentially your muscle gets tired because you don't have enough red blood cells and ATP, rather than get tired because you're ripping it apart at the muscle cell level

You always could use more strength mate, you're rarely gonna need 3-4 inches

[–]Boosted_Arrow 1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

To the part about kindness. I would say developing strength in general is crucial. (especially for dudes like me who lack it) We need strength to protect, stay calm in tense situations and facing life's challenges successfully. Also as you said kindness without strength is just niceness out of weakness and that's gross.

The whole clothing part is basically displaying some sort of social status/social belonging, which is important to a certain point.

The hooker thing is funny, bc I'm really in the middle of it now.

[–]1zino193[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

That emotional strength part is hard.... there are no short cuts, you need to literally go through hell to be strong. But the bare minimum condition is getting out of the house and actually starting to have human interactions.

[–]Boosted_Arrow 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

How can you go through hell and become stronger instead of breaking down and getting damaged from it?

[–]1zino193[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't think you're ready to hear this. But fuck it, you're not my kid.

Life doesn't damage you. Your mind does. The dissonance between your mental model of the world and your reality is the damage we perceive. This is why poor people don't have depression, they just grind. This is why "sensitive" millennials that were told they can do anything do nothing.

It's not really advice, unless you're a father, but a old red pill tenant was: you are nothing, you deserve nothing, you don't matter - and that's amazing. That means every inch, every minute is a god sent. It means you will be grateful for everything you achieve, you will notice every opportunity and you will be numb to failure because you were there, at the bottom and you were ok.

Move - disconnect from all your expectations and just make a life. A ok life is good enough, you just need to reset your brain. Build something you own, that is only for you.

[–]JohnZoffman 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Not helping somebody that is asking for help, just to look "alpha", seems kinda weak??

[–]1zino193[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Being worried about being weak is weak mate.

[–]Norfolt 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah that sounds kinda beta

[–]fusrodalek 1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Just lift brah!! Just be presentable!! Signal that you’re a good admirable civilian!!

Jumping through any sort of conditional hoop or sacrificing one iota of your personal autonomy to get laid is intrinsically unmasculine. You’re asking people to give up their frame in lieu of decorum, appropriateness, conventional attractiveness standards, etc.

It will get a greasy virgin some baseline success, sure. But it doesn’t help somebody to find their voice and carve out a unique path of their own, which is where the real gold is. “Be yourself” is not a platitude, it’s just that the vast majority of men do not know who they truly are. Upon this realization, many men opt for ‘consolation advice’ like the OP above.

This advice is to dating what “work harder to impress your employer” is to the working world, which is to say completely naive.

On the whole, RP communities are way too fixated on emulating “chad”. The problem is that emulating doesn’t teach a person to surpass, they get stuck in a dead-end (biters die when they run out of notes to steal). People who are authentic, born “chads” will wipe the floor with sussy imposters. Much better to be authentic, whatever way it presents itself, because its potential for expression and growth is limitless, unrehearsed, spontaneous and completely natural.

Man is not supposed to be at the whim of societal pressures. He’s supposed to rise above it when necessary, supposed to be adversarial towards it when necessary. The internal system of man supercedes the worldly system. THIS is frame.

tl;dr People will tell you to have game like Alexander the Great. Guess who Alexander wished to be, if not himself? That’s right, Diogenes—the guy who lived in a barrel and wanked in public. Know why? Diogenes had frame for fucking DAYS. Cosmic levels of frame. You want to be Diogenes. Not in form, but in outlook.

Edit: reread it and point #2 is a good one. Online dating is not for the majority of men and the sooner men realize this the better

[–]1zino193[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

What is unmasculine is being socially wierd and unable to undestand the implications of how you present yourself in society.

Fuck your voice, this is a forum for social retards that by definition don't have a desirable voice by default.

I am not asking to emulate chad, I am asking to not be wierd. I am saying - don't be unfuckable and don't stay in the way of your own dick.

The red pill is about what is, not what is SUPPOSED to be... Your mental models are based on idealized concepts that have no reflection in the real world. They are the literal definition of romanticism.

[–]fusrodalek 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

What is unmasculine is being socially wierd and unable to undestand the implications of how you present yourself in society

I never said they didn't know the implications. There's plenty of weirdos who pull because they know who and what they are, accept it, and work with it. Rejecting oneself and striving after an externalized ideal of masculinity, whether it be a particular exercise routine, job, outfit, etc is, in effect, LARPing. Which, if the ONLY goal is to pull, by all means--enjoy the vapid plates. But it won't fill the void.

Fuck your voice, this is a forum for social retards that by definition don't have a desirable voice by default.

So the solution is to be somebody else? Sorry, but THAT'S where the maladaptive behavior starts--this idea of "I can't be good enough where I am now, I have to hold my self-confidence and happiness hostage behind a certain bodyfat %, a certain amount of zeroes in my paycheck, or a balenciaga shirt"

I think "undesirable by default" is antithetical to the world that we live in. We come into this world bursting with the tell-tale signs of game--confidence, frame that borders on solipsism, single-pointed mind, no clutter. I don't know about you, but the most game I EVER HAD IN MY ENTIRE LIFE was from the ages of 4-8 or so. Little ladykiller making girls 10 years older than me swoon and say stuff like "if only you were older..." weird part is at that age, I couldn't have any "understanding" of women or their proclivities. It was literally a blank slate, spontaneous, no sense of anything whatsoever. Almost as if men and women, by default, are meant to interact this way.

I'll do another tl;dr here: Man fundamentally has game, conditioning obscures / misdirects it. Game is knowing who you are. Striving to be something else sends man further away from himself. The more a man orients himself towards the whims of society and away from himself, the bluer the pill, the less attractive he is.

[–]1zino193[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

What you see outside is not men.

That natural healthy ego has been killed by 18 hours of passive media consumption and dopamine dripping.

You need to get those men back to a baseline a healthy baseline. And yes, that means adhering to social norms.

AFter that, after they are ok. Then you can have them, then you can take them in the woods to rediscover their natural masculinity or other etherial shit.

[–]Cptnkoji 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Reading title and assuming a retard wrote this? Check

Top comment confirms My thought? Check

[–]Few_Chance_4004 1 point2 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

I’ve got looks, I’m fit, lifting, I’m socially active and very sociable approach girls, live by my own, have a decent job but nothing seems to work out for me.. I’m on a dry spell more than a year and I don’t what’s wrong with. I’m constantly trying and I’m tired of it

[–]1zino193[S] 2 points3 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

When was the last time you touched a girls arse and how did it go? Just my gut feeling is that you aren't feathering the sexual escalation throttle properly if you can't close the deal.

Secondly... you say your are socially active and very sociable - yet you say you are tired of trying. Are you sure that you aren't leaking that frustration into your sets?

Thirdly... where do you live, what is your age range and what are the women that reject you constantly like?

Some internal issues you need to resolve:

Stop thinking a job is sexy, it's not. The life that your job can provide to a girl is sexy to women that have shit lives. That's a different type of game, that we can go into once we figure out your problem. Right now - the hook is the live she can live with you for a few hours in the middle of the night... that you showcase with wide shoulders, fun banter and a confident touch. If you advertise "romantic lead" or "high value male with 6 figure income" then she won't be thinking about the d you could be slipping her in the next few hours, she gonna be thinking of the ring you could be slipping her in the next few years.

Most men's lives are dry spells between relationships - don't think the chad life is the standard. That's a sum of factors that culminate into that lifestlyle. Think of having 3-4 on-and-off FWB over the course of a year. That's a sustainable goal.

[–]Few_Chance_4004 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

Thank for replying my friend. 1. Probably 2 months ago I hooked up with some gal but no fucking. The problem is that I can’t get them to bed.

  1. Frustrated from not having my dick wet.

  2. Israel, 24, mostly students that are my age range.

I said decent job just for the sake of telling you that I’m not a bum. On the outside I don’t care about that really. I’m feeling that all the situations with girls are like a bad sitcom scenarios. I’m hooking up with someone and some shit happens (sometimes because of me and sometimes some external) and then puff no sex. I’m know that sex isn’t everything but I really wanna fuck for fuck sake

[–]1zino193[S] 1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Why no fucking, what was the break point? LMR?

  1. Didn't ask why you are tired of trying, I was saying are you sure you aren't desperate and girls can feel it.

  2. Yeah, that's a hard crowd.

I think you just need to do what most men do over there and go to a hooker or hook up with a married woman behind the scenes.

Girls at that age are more interested in the hierarchy component of hooking up rather than hooking up. Especially with guys their age. However, you can find nice kind less "masculine" girls your age, if you get over the social status thing and date down.

LMR is a huge issue there, unless she is hot as fuck for you. And if you don't have the patience to escalate gradually and give her a super erotic experience regularly - she won't go to the next level. And there are fewer things that test a man's coolness than having a hot young thing squirming in his arms and a set of full balls in his early twenties.

I recomend having a girlfriend and keeping her on the burner while you prowl out of the cesspool that is college age dating. Trust me, there is no enviroment that is more difficult than that. Especially in a conservative country. (I assume you're not in Tel Aviv). Young professional women are needy as fuck over there however. They don't mind the age gap, and a lot of them ahve a kink for it, as it gives them power. Have at it. But even with them you do need to be chill about escalating.

And here comes the problem. It's very hard to have swagger, that cocky confidence tranditional women need to see you as fuckable if you are sexually frustrated. There's two options. The above mentioned hookers but as you can see it comes with huge stigma, mostly from losers that are even more sexually frustrated than you, but there;s a lot of losers in society. The second option is NOFAP. Sexual apetite is something we nurture and stimulate. Going cold turkey will get you to be less thirsty after a month or so. (depends on the individual). What definetly won't work is if you keep the short term stimulation/reward cycle of excited, porn & cime - that is just incompatible with a normal human sex act.

Hope this helps, good luck. ANd don't worry, as soon as you go out in the real world, women are way more fun to hang out with and fuck.

[–]Few_Chance_4004 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Great answer! Thanks a lot!! I’m actually traveling to Amsterdam in 3 weeks so as you mentioned in your post I’m gonna go to the red lights district and remove my mind block lol I’m also thought of the idea of having LTR and your advise actually push me more forward to it. Again, dating is shit also, but probably no other option is great so. And by sayin ‘as soon as you go out in the real world’ what do you mean real world?

[–]1chopping_livers 4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Good stuff.

What did you do to put yourself in positions where women could see your competence? In social situations.

[–]Obermarschall 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I disagree about the clothes section. I dress as I want. I have colorful Hawaiian shirts, I have Nike sneakers with Goku and Vegeta painted on them and get compliments... not from dudes but from women. Dressing like everyone else makes you boring and dull.

[–]1zino193[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh, well if a girl compliments you, there's no reason why you should be able to bang, is it :D

Mate, first step is showing you are a normal dude that understands social conventions. Next is showing that you surpass them, despite understanding them. If you are the latter, you're ahead of the game ...I got nothing to tell you.

IF YOU AREN"T - you're just being wierd and quirky, you get complimented like that wierd tree on campus.

[–]NickTesla2018 -1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

It sure would be nice to get laid again before WWIII and the end of the world. ; (

[–]1zino193[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Hookers be here man. THink of it this way - how much would another vacation to Miami run you? 1400, 2000?

You can get a full harem experience with that. And I bet that would be a better memory than some street food, shitty hotel and a trip to the Club.

[–]LeatherBoundWisdom -1 points0 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

This is very solid advice. I would also add that if you are changing your personality, it MUST be gradual. If people tell you to "be yourself", then you are trying to be too different at once. Like if you've been (or rather, played) a nerdy middle class white kid your whole life and suddenly try to open with "Hey gurl, you looking fiiine today". It will just come off as super autistic. You have to use the shitty social repertoire you currently have in your intuition, the set of social behaviors you know how to do, and just make small adjustments at once.

Example, if all you can say is "hey, how's it going" then that's what you say, but maybe with a little more eye contact, maybe with a better, more man to woman posture. When that's comfortable and automatic, maybe you throw in a compliment you normally wouldn't say. Over time you can drastically change your personality and improve your social toolbox, you can change yourself to be who you want to be, instead of who you ended up being from the tragedy of your fucked up life.

[–]1zino193[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Kinda- I think you don't have a personality, you have a temperament and "social repertoire" which is the sum of experiences.

That's where you can act and where the change happens, by adding experiences, radically different experiences, your social repertoire grows exponentially (especially if you were a shut in) and that becomes "new personality".

The problem comes from "faking it", when you don't have the experiences but try pulling off the behavior.

[–]LeatherBoundWisdom 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Can you elaborate more on how experiences add to your social repertoire? Are you saying experiences from trying and discovering new semantic tools (for example, saying "You're an [location] girl" instead of "where are you from"). Or something else?

[–]1zino193[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I am saying learning that if you bump into a girl - you can swiftly shift it from a social oups into a fun "how I met your mother moment"

Like learning that you are fun, and a good time, and if a girl comes at you with: Why would I give you the time of day, you realize it's a her problem not a you problem.

Like learning that everything that happens in the club is just seeding your personality and 80% of closes happen in the last hour or 90 minutes before closing. 40% or more of those happen in the last 10 minutes or after in the graveyard in front of the club.

Learning the importance of logistics and having your pad clean, lighted and female friendly before you even open the door to minimize her anxiety.

Learning the difference between vibing and buying temperature and how they impact conversions to lay. And between buying temperature and SMV evaluation and how they impact second chances or call backs.

I can give you my learnings, for the women that I hang out with, but they will be socio-cultural attributes and very much linked to my looks, temperament, sex skills and income. Your mix will vary a lot, and in order to get accurate inputs for your temperament you literally have to live out stuff and see what works and what doesn't for you.

[–]Hviterev -3 points-2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Everyone getting hinged up on stfds but the post is pretty solid. I don't like whores so I'm very neutral for that aspect but the rest is 10/10 post.

[–]1zino193[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

No, and clothes...

The reaction is very similar to the land whales that hear that women that are pleasant can get men to care.

These motherfuckers are so terrified that companionship and tenderness is achievable that they grasp at their perma-virgin lifestyle with a death grip.

[–]JuStShAvEyOuRhEaDbRo 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Or pay escorts instead of jester maxxing

[–]1zino193[S] -1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Whatever gets you off the couch my man. That's the first step, GET OF THE FUCKING COUCH!

[–]JuStShAvEyOuRhEaDbRo 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Except I don't sit on a couch. The only time I sit on a couch is when I'm visiting family...

What's next? I'm in my mum's basement too? I'm in my bedroom.

[–]1zino193[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You know what your life is like, I can and will only judge you based on your behavior

[–]Norfolt 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

This give me a combined vibe of freshandfit and Jack Murphy

[–]ixhr 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Most of the advice given is good. Except the "dont worry about getting std part". If i need to choose between my health & getting laid, i will choose to protect my health every time.

[–]1zino193[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

If you have to choose between being a emotional retard that hasn't ever touched a woman and an STD - you have the wrong priorities in life.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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