I don't get effected by Rejection, as it happens too often for me to notice

Scymnus · 2014-04-11T11:47:33+00:00

I've found outcome independence to be one of the most important things when approaching girls, and in a lot of aspects of life in general. Even before TRP I was always outcome independent as I figured out on my own that if you play the numbers game you will eventually win. Approach, give it your best (apathy is poison) shot, next if unsuccessful. I believe most guys could get laid at least once every 3-4 months if they did this.

nicethingyoucanthave · 2014-04-11T13:07:09+00:00

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sir_wankalot_here · 2014-04-11T12:45:08+00:00

The best salesmen are never in the office, they are out selling stuff.

wingmen ... its all bollocks.

IDK how the bar scene is in America anymore. Sluts used to always go to bars in pairs. It would be hard to break up a pair of sluts. Usually one of the sluts would want to "make sure her friend is ok" which meant she didn't want to go home alone. Also you had to choose between one of the sluts. So the purpose of buddy is to fuck the other slut.

But yah it is a numbers game :-)

NeoBushi · 2014-04-11T15:13:03+00:00

I've never subscribed to the notion of "rejection" in pickup and game material. I don't get rejected because I don't offer myself to women on the approach. I probe women. I screen them for sexual availability. I am curious if we are compatible. But I don't put myself in a position to be "rejected". I don't offer myself.

"Rejection" is just another arena in the battle for frame control. I've been "rejected" at certain venues only to hook up with a hotter girl later in the night. If you feel rejected then you lose. If you don't then you win. But I choose to not play that game at all.

I can offer a proposal, IE "lets go grab a drink", and that can be rejected. But I will not be rejected as a person.

Gstreetshit · 2014-04-11T13:36:31+00:00

Just remember this. You are usually being rejected by someone you don't know and will probably never see again. Who gives a shit what they think or have to say at that point? If they are cool with your approach, good. If they reject you, it doesn't matter because they have no effect or power over you whatsoever.

It's cliche I know but, you miss 100% of the shots you don't take.

If you see someone you like, just go for it and don't be a pussy. Who gives a fuck if they turn you down? You're in luck because there a few billion more pussies out there.

Toof · 2014-04-11T15:34:36+00:00

One of my favorite interactions with a woman was a rejection.

Was out at a restaurant with some friends, and I was just handling all the conversation, almost all of it went through me and we were all having a good time. The waitress kept giving me the eye, which the women at the table were unnecessarily pointing out to me.

Yadda yadda, all said and done I leave without making a move. Forgot my debit card and run back. Get a second alone with her and make a joke about my foolishness before offering,

"Hey, what time you get outta here? My friends and I are just a few blocks away partying a bit, you should stop by."
"Uhm, err, ehh..."
"You're trying to think of a nice way to say no, aren't ya?"
"Well, yeah..."
"Hah, don't worry about it, doll, you have a good one."

That whole conversation was said with a chuckle and a smile, and it was a damned fun interaction with a woman, even if it was technically a rejection.

litez · 2014-04-11T14:05:11+00:00

This times 100. Being rejected desensitizes you and you just realize that these bitches think they're one in a million. They are; I have 999,999 others to choose from. I don't even care about rejection anymore. Yesterday, all of the guys and I played a stupid dare game at a school sporting event and I got dared to sit down next to a girl from the other school and ask her out on a date. I walked over there, did just that and got: 1) Rejected and 2) Told by her friend I looked like I had a small dick. No fucks given.

vengefully_yours · 2014-04-11T13:12:36+00:00

Its an indication in fact that "don't bother, I'm not going to fuck you." Great, because there are loads that will. So time, money, effort, and energy saved.

Exactly right. It saves you time so you can find the ones that say yes. Who gives a shit about the no? The only ones I am interested in are the ones who say yes.

ggqq · 2014-04-11T13:41:15+00:00

Reminds me of a lesson that poker taught me: You have no control over the cards you get. Only the way you play them.

arhombus · 2014-04-11T13:23:56+00:00

Effect is a noun

Affect is a verb

You accidentally a noun when you needed a verb.

2014-04-12T01:44:54+00:00

Go for no. The more no answers you get the more lays you get. If a guy approaches enough to rack up 1000 no's, he will have way more lays than a guy who only had 10 no's. Unless you are in the top .0001% of men ( think super rock star, sports hero, or A list hunk actor ) you will get 100x more no than yes in "the game".

Once you look at getting laid as "Ok, I just gotta go rack up 100 no's and then I'll get laid.".

No's are the currency players use to get pussy. If you don't earn enough no's you get none. Plain and simple.

And to answer the "what about SMV" question that is bound to pop up. All SMV does is let you "play" the numbers game at a certain level. If you are a 7 in your current market, then you can play the numbers game on all of the 7s and lower. If you are a 9, then you can play numbers game on 9s and lower. It just expands your pool so to speak. A fat ugly slob who is a 3, can only run numbers game on obese grannies and genetic rejects. But he is still playing the numbers game. If he gets enough no's he'll eventually fuck an obese granny. He won't bother to try and game on 7's and 8's because they will never say yes. He doesn't have enough SMV to play the game in that pool/market. It's like a broker who doesn't have the required license to trade in a specific stock market. The real trick here is to understand your SMV and then identify women who are within your value range in your current market. That takes experience and lots of interaction with other players who have traveled a lot ( think Roosh ).

Note: This all applies to cold approach. Social circle, and niche status game are a little different. You won't get as many no's but you also won't be approaching as much either. Those types of games are more along the lines of "a moth to a flame".

AcedtheTuringTest · 2014-04-11T15:39:37+00:00

Shit, I've gotten rejected by virtually every single attempt ever and it's almost comical at this point. Other guys collect bedpost notches, I collect turn-downs. Because of this, I'm fully prepared mentally to be disappointed yet again and I just kind of shrug them off now.

It's when something works out, someone keeps their word, or reciprocates that catches me off-guard.

jadedspade · 2014-04-11T15:53:33+00:00

Fuck this is sidebar material. Abundance mentality explained perfectly.

DarkSayed · 2014-04-11T16:37:53+00:00

I have a massive amount of pride and used to take rejection by anything - girl, job, whatever - quite badly.

Remember the first time I got rejected for a job. That had me sulking for a week. I had never been rejected for anything before - got into all the universities I applied to.

Glad I'm over that.

2014-04-11T17:15:41+00:00

"Good luck" that's gold

tmpjb · 2014-04-11T18:49:32+00:00

Yeah this is the reason i prefer day game. You can just live your life and if you see someone attractive you go for it. I don't force rejection out of them like pick up artists though because even though it doesn't both me it probably bothers them. I am well practiced in knowing if a girl is into me or not, and I can weed those out very quickly. Day game doesn't have the concentration of hot girls so maybe it's more for beginners or lower smv people like me, but I am able to have abundance mentality, preselection ( I have quite a few female friends that are always down to play wing woman ), and sometimes social proof/status. It shows more confidence since everyone is approaching everyone in bars these days. Also less competition from other guys, but if you're the hottest guy in the bar go for that.

2014-04-12T04:18:19+00:00

Love this attitude, bro. Seek it out because it's challenging, because you love the opportunity it gives you to become a better man.

CannonBallGuy · 2014-04-12T09:11:12+00:00

Great advice!

Thank you especially for the great formatting of your post, like one or two sentences per paragraph makes it very readable and inviting.

mesmorizer · 2014-04-12T10:30:19+00:00

So basically you were the girls plate.

rirvingr · 2014-04-11T14:20:57+00:00

This is hilarious. You're rationalizing to deal with your cognitive dissonance. Maybe eventually you'll learn that you don't need to become desensitized or make a post about it to feel better about yourself, but instead you could focus on bettering yourself and learning new things... and then stop trying to put down uninterested women in order to feel desirable.

vpwnz · 2014-04-12T11:14:14+00:00

*affected, jesus christ man.

Why is it that so many posts on TRP feature such poor grammar/spelling etc? Surely we're all collectively shooting ourselves in the foot here.

2014-04-12T02:57:44+00:00

Go for no. The more no answers you get the more lays you get. If a guy approaches enough to rack up 1000 no's, he will have way more lays than a guy who only had 10 no's. Unless you are in the top .0001% of men ( think super rock star, sports hero, or A list hunk actor ) you will get 100x more no than yes in "the game".

Once you look at getting laid as "Ok, I just gotta go rack up 100 no's and then I'll get laid.".

No's are the currency players use to get pussy. If you don't earn enough no's you get none. Plain and simple.

And to answer the "what about SMV" question that is bound to pop up. All SMV does is let you "play" the numbers game at a certain level. If you are a 7 in your current market, then you can play the numbers game on all of the 7s and lower. If you are a 9, then you can play numbers game on 9s and lower. It just expands your pool so to speak. A fat ugly slob who is a 3, can only run numbers game on obese grannies and genetic rejects. But he is still playing the numbers game. If he gets enough no's he'll eventually fuck an obese granny. He won't bother to try and game on 7's and 8's because they will never say yes. He doesn't have enough SMV to play the game in that pool/market. It's like a broker who doesn't have the required license to trade in a specific stock market. The real trick here is to understand your SMV and then identify women who are within your value range in your current market. That takes experience and lots of interaction with other players who have traveled a lot ( think Roosh ). "Well what about game????". Game boosts your SMV by a point or SOMETIMES by 2 points ( only about 10% of dudes have enough game to boost by 2 whole points ). Game also keeps your from losing points. Dudes with anti-game can be handsome and have all the alpha in the world going for them... but the anti-game causes them to loose major points. In fact I'd say game is most useful for not losing points instead of gaining points. Just look at the horrible text game by

Note: This all applies to cold approach. Social circle, and niche status game are a little different. You won't get as many no's but you also won't be approaching as much either. Those types of games are more along the lines of "a moth to a flame".

sandboarding · 2014-04-11T14:30:45+00:00

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Title	I don't get effected by Rejection, as it happens too often for me to notice
Author	musicvita25
Upvotes	115
Comments	73
Date	April 11, 2014 11:25 AM UTC (12 years ago)
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