Losing weight "cold turkey" style

iwanttout · 2016-09-13T02:50:59+00:00

I lost 80lbs. by simply eating less. I would eat a small brunch and a medium sized dinner. When I tell people this, they usually scorn at me and say that what I did was unhealthy... despite them all being fat

The worst problem I have experienced with many of my obese friends and family is that some of them are convinced that all they have to do is eat healthy. Simultaneously, They wonder why they are fat despite continuing to over consume.

BlackJ1 · 2016-09-13T06:32:56+00:00

Anywhere from 5-10lb loss per week.

Of water weight? Sure.

Of fat? Bullshit. If you want to lose 7 pounds of actual fat in a week you need to go on a 3,500 caloric deficit everyday.

A lot of people who follow diets like this just gain weight right back. Teaching yourself to eat less is only half of maintaining a healthy weight. The other half is teaching yourself to eat healthier foods.

Dieting like this is just going to create more problems then it solves.

landon042 · 2016-09-13T03:23:36+00:00

research more into the "fasting" sub and "psfm"

fasting will be good for guys that are obese so they don't really care about muscle.

psmf (protein sparing modified fast) is good for guys with muscle already. so you would essentially eat minimum protein requirements so your body doesn't burn muscle. 800-1200 calories of chicken or something else. depends on weight.

ADF aka alternate day fasting is a fasting diet on off days, with eating on gym days, also if you do psfm on gym days also, you will see faster results. This is different from normal psfm and works because your body supposedly doesn't start using protein/muscle for energy until 36 hours fasted. and is why the normal fasting isn't reccomended for guys with a decent amount of muscle, unless you keep it to less than 2 days

These are considered the "suicide" fast diets, it takes so much more willpower, but with that comes so much more results. Correct me if I'm wrong anyone, I've been browsing the fasting, and psfm subreddits for a couple months and sharing what I've read

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chris_sydney · 2016-09-13T09:51:42+00:00

I concur. This approach can work in many areas. Sometimes you just have to dive in head first, not tread water carefully.

OmegaMan2 · 2016-09-13T04:40:13+00:00

You're absolutely right. It wasn't until I started with the intermittent fasting that the pounds dropped off.

Tuga_Lissabon · 2016-09-13T04:19:51+00:00

Did that, and at the moment slowly (so as not to lose gains) improving on previous victory. Lost some muscle doing that when I first went radical and shed close to 40 pounds. What finally worked is:

Eat meat. With green veggies (boiled for ease). Without pasta, rice, noodles, whatever. Just... don't.

Skip dinner. But get a dose of protein down. It'll allow you to sleep better (satiety) and keep muscle.

Tea. Tons of it. Green tea works nicely, healthy and hidrates. Its warm, boys, it really fills you up. I buy that stuff by weight so tons cheaper than little portions.

Do even bodyweight basic push-ups, pull-ups. It'll tell your body you need that part so it spares it some.

tx_cowboy3256 · 2016-09-14T00:56:40+00:00

Seeing as there's a lot of people on here im gonna ask this.. what about for over the road truckers? Went from being a CO and going to the gym daily to this. Very very hard to keep and prepare "good" foods on the truck and truck stops dont have the finest of selections. Any advice would be great

red_reality · 2016-09-15T10:36:52+00:00

I tried various methods: six meals a days, weightlifting 6 days a week, cardio on a empty stomach everyday, have a light dinner and going to bed with hunger, etc....

I read at least 5 books about nutrition and countless blogs. I tried a lot and finally developed a system which is easy to comply.

Here is what works for me:

Intermittent fasting, 16 hours fasts everyday.
Only two meals a day: lunch at 1 pm and dinner at 8pm
I "survive" through mornings with only water, green tea and the fantastic black coffee
Lifting 3x times a week 1 hour max and high intensity. One day rest between sessions.
I lift at 6:30 pm so my dinner is the post work meal. In my post work meals I eat high protein/high carb/low fat. The remaining meals is high protein/high fat/low carb
Food quality is very important! No processed food! Protein sources: fish, meat, poultry, eggs, whey; Fat sources: avocado, egg yolks, (most protein sources already contain fats); Carb sources: sweet potatos, quinoa, etc...

Whey I love this system?

You got 3 refeeds for week (post workout meals). This will make diet compliance a breeze. Carbs after a intense workout will be stored as glycogen.
So you binged or want to speed things? No problem! just skip lunch or dinner. 24h fasts are very good for your health. Do it in your rest days.
Want to get drunk? No problem. Just eat high protein/low fat/low carb through to day and drink alcohol at night. For example eat a lot chicken breast and vegetables. You'll store virtually zero fat.
Again, fasting is very good for your health and is easier than you think. Humans evolved for long periods of fasting
Time saving! No breakfast! Only two meals a day (sometimes only one). Only 3 lifting sessions per week and zero cardio.

This is fantastic for cutting body fat and mantaining lean mass. Don't listen to guys who lift everyday . If you aren't in steroids your muscles won't able to recover quickly from a hard gym session. The more cardio you do the hungrier you'll be. Just do cardio if you really love.

SDR184 · 2016-09-13T03:27:33+00:00

Eating less shit is still eating shit.

If you can't stick to a diet longer than a week, you are already weak willed. You'll need to fix that little personal problem first. Maintaining a good diet isn't pussy footing, it's full RP mode of taking responsibility for your life.

Improve your diet from the ground up. Drop your carbs, increase your intake of veggies, hydrate way more than you think, and yeah, get some real regular exercise (drinking beer in a ballpark isn't).

I've been on Paleo for 8 years. Bacon and eggs for breakfast (fuck that bagel though), a good salad with protein for lunch, and another heaping portion of meat and veggies for dinner.

Most people have dietary issues they don't even know about, but those things won't show up until you hit mid-life.

Keep eating shit; sadly, you'll be facing thyroid issues, BP issues, diabetes, mystery allergies, joint problems, etc.

RP isn't about temporarily hiding from issues, it's about facing reality and dealing with it.

x7e2 · 2016-09-13T06:25:26+00:00

Don't pussy-foot with those low-carb diets or 10% reductions in calories. They are the "good" way to lose weight, but we both know you'll never stick to them for longer than a week.

Speak for yourself, personally I'm on year 3 of strict low carb with no plans of changing. BMI ~40 to ~23.

Sylvmum · 2016-09-13T10:56:43+00:00

Sigh, fitness advice is really TRPs weak point.

Cowfire · 2016-09-13T02:21:20+00:00

I've lost roughly 30 pounds in the last two months. I know I could go faster, but I've heard stories like this.

mill58 · 2016-09-13T19:31:04+00:00

This is working for me too. 3 small meals and 2 snacks per day.

Breakfast: 2 eggs Lunch and dinner: brown rice, chicken breast, broccoli or mushrooms. Snacks: 90 calories chocolate chip brownies (1 in the middle of the morning and 1 in the middle of the afternoon).

I usually workout from 4 to 6 times per week but before I was eating a lot more and getting no results. This is at least working for me now and I'm losing from 2 to 3 pounds per week.

mrjowee · 2016-09-14T02:36:46+00:00

So a calorie deficit from lifting weights showed no results but a calorie deficit from dieting worked?

cantcme13 · 2016-09-14T19:50:50+00:00

My brother in law is into crossfit (not one of those wankers he actually puts in the work and is trying to make it to Regionals) and a guy at his gym does Intermittent Fasting. Says he's shredded and all he does is not eat after dinner till 11am or something like that. I currently haven't got the discipline for it but I'm looking into it. Anyone else know much about it?

User-31f64a4e · 2016-09-14T14:34:25+00:00

There are a couple optimizations that can be made to the OP's method.

By skipping breakfast instead of dinner, your body goes longer without food. This results in a mini fast, and is really good for getting healthy insulin and leptin levels.
Also, if you have caffeine in the morning, that helps keep the hunger at bay; not a recommended approach in the evening!

As a pragmatic point, I find it easier to not eat when I know the end of that will be soon. Being hungry all evening, and while trying to go to sleep, doesn't work so well for me.

Stonish · 2016-09-15T17:22:56+00:00

My father is overweight. He is at 122kg and even tho he tries following LCHF diet he maintains his weight since a long time. Something tells me his calories deficit is too small. Am I heading a good direction?

red_reality · 2016-09-16T01:01:47+00:00

I'm on my own weight loss journey currently. Using intermittent fasting, macros, calorie counting w scale etc. Every day when I'm close to the end of my fast, ie: 16-18 hours without eating, it can only really be defined as suffering. BUT it is minimal relative to other kinds of suffering and to be able to actually feel your stomach being hungry and KNOW that in this moment I'm only burning body fat for energy more than makes up for the slight discomfort of hunger. You're right, to change your body composition to lower fat/higher muscle, you NEED to experience discomfort. Everyone seems to think that weight loss is 'pain free.' Those are the people that never lose the weight.

blackedoutfast · 2016-09-16T01:35:05+00:00

yeah, i started trying the intermittent fasting type diets to cut fast and i actually kinda prefer it over the standard 3 meals a day every day. i like to motivate myself by imagining hunter-gatherers going days without eating then feasting when they finally take down an elephant or whatevr.

either just having one largish meal around 3-4pm or just fasting completely every other day. and be sure to stay hydrated.

even if the meals you do it are larger than normal, they aren't going to be twice as large.

the biggest problem for me is trying to make it fit into a more typical social eating schedule.

Bhuddav1 · 2016-09-17T09:14:29+00:00

If you drop your calories by as little as 250 calories a day from your maintenance intake you will start loosing weight period. will it be fast as lightning? no, but it's a hell of a lot healthier.

Get something that keeps you accountable, a app or as simple as a piece of paper tallying up your calories for the day. the things people mess up on is consistency if you chop 250 calories out of you life and keep doing it for years with calculating out out your current weight and height every month, you will lose as much weight as you want. it is that simple.

eating healthy and working out are always a good idea everybody knows this but are too lazy to do it.

At this point in my life I have never been thinner i am 196 right now was 250 6ish years ago got into 2 labor jobs over those years, never looked back.

TL;DR : just eat less and count calories.

_TheUglyDuckling_ · 2016-09-13T10:18:26+00:00

As far back as I can remember, I was overweight. Not quite obese, but anywhere from 15% to 30% body fat.

15% is far from fat. You can see abs at 15%.

You know what shows results? Not eating. I don't mean outright starvation, but rather having a very light breakfast (a few fruit / a bagel / piece of banana bread / etc. and a coffee), a normal or even larger-sized lunch, and no dinner

Read about macronutrients and GI of food. "A few fruit" or "bagel" or "banana bread" in the morning wont get you leaner. Those foods will cause your blood sugar to peak and then drop rapidly because of their high GI index and you'll needlesly suffer. Meat and eggs are far better choice.

Eating right and resting are essential if you want long term results. Anger driven motivation is going to fade away in few weeks, weight training is going to be harder and you'll end up feeling miserable. That will cause you to do things to feel better. Like eating, masturbation etc. The things that got you where you are in the first place.

It's very important to keep your body well taken care of and to be aware of your mood. Sometimes you need to take one step backward to make two steps forward. My point is don't be a pussy, train hard and be disciplined about eating and resting, but on the other side, be ready to take a break and to nourish yourself.

2comment · 2016-09-13T03:24:04+00:00

Over these last few years I fell back to my old habits and came up to that same 195lbs again.

This is kind of the problem with these diets, the eventual yoyo at the end, although admittedly you did it pretty tamely and didn't stop eating for 2 weeks or a month.

Here is something mindblowing, the cravings you get at the end of a diet cycle can be pretty damn overwhelming and that's when the binges occur. But it might not even be your body signaling you need this or that nutriet that sets this off, but rather your gut bacteria.

Not everyone has the same gut bacteria and a person's composition is based on their long term eating habits. Give a skinny person a fat person's gut bacteria and they balloon up. So when your mind gets into one of these craving modes that just won't stop, it could be your gut bacteria that found a way to manipulate your mind before it dies. Nuts!

And it takes years to change gut bacteria permanently although the initial changes can happen fast. Fasting is okay every so often. But I'd say if you get cravings, start getting in the habit of eating lean protein - whey protein shakes can be the best (no incentive of toppings to make it palpable).

That way you get to feel full, you're promoting better gut bacteria by feeding them (water doesn't), and it's really hard to gain fat from lean protein - something like 60% of lean proteins caloric energy is lost in the conversion - so eat 500 extra protein calories, store only 200. Celery and other nonstarch vegetables are good too.

Arabian_Wolf · 2016-09-13T03:48:50+00:00

Pro tip: don't drink any artifical and/or sugary drink.

Follow the rest of what the OP wrote.

Watch the weight drop effortlessly, can be a good kickstart to follow it with going to Gym.

Theophagist · 2016-09-13T04:08:08+00:00

I lost over 100 lbs on keto and kickboxing classes 5 times a week and lifting 3 times in about 9 months. For long-term/lifestyle I suggest paleo.

Project_Thor · 2016-09-13T22:49:10+00:00

If you are serious about losing weight there is little to think about. Here's what you need to do, If you understand health/nutrition which I highly doubt you do, then you can follow your own dietary advice, otherwise simply cook everything from scratch. Incoming I only consume Meats/Vegetables/Nuts/Fruits(Cut back on these though). Now Lift Heavy, Compound Movements Squats and Deadlifts with Stronglifts 5x5. Do Hill Sprints and Regular Sprinting. I doubt you will do this because you are most likely still a child, however losing weight is not difficult.

Dookiestain_LaFlair · 2016-09-13T20:30:23+00:00

If you really want to lose weight fast, you could always go to camp

NueveReinas · 2016-09-13T17:05:01+00:00

Tell me how to lose weight while lossing as little muscle as posssible. Tell me what to eat to get 150grams of protein a day, please i got rejected by a fucking HB3 after our first date, while we prettty much talked every hour the days before... Please if someones reading this i need direction:(

Axiom92 · 2016-09-13T16:54:33+00:00

The best way to loose weight is eat more often. Yes eat more often but not eat more. It is recommended that you eat 6 snack sized meals a day. When you skip meals your body begins to go into survival mode because it doesn't know when the next meal may come. As a result your body stores as many nutrients as it can and only burns what it has to. When you eat more often your body burns most of it off knowing that it will be getting more soon. For best results eat fruits, vegetables, nuts, lean meat. Eat whole grain pasta and whole grain bread instead of white.

You loose weight when calories in are less than calories out. It is possible to loose weight by just dieting but you have to almost starve yourself. It is possible to loose weight by just working out but you have to put in a lot of extra effort. The best way to loose weight is mixing a good diet with working out.

Title	Losing weight "cold turkey" style
Author	rubrikTaco
Upvotes	21
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Date	September 13, 2016 2:10 AM UTC (9 years ago)
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