Massive red pill truths in a really unexpected place: a Tony Robbins documentary.

aptway · 2016-08-19T05:51:14+00:00

Agreed, the documentary was shockingly Red Pill. Definitely worth a watch.

I would wager that 80% of the women in the audience wanted to fuck Tony.

Dude's pretty much the epitome of "benevolent alpha."

TaylorSwift_AMA · 2016-08-19T09:42:20+00:00

I've read all his stuff, and been to Unleash The Power Within, and Robbins has a lot of relevant stuff.

In short: Your beliefs, feelings, and standards guide your life. More often than not, we passively accept them through osmosis from other people. However, you can choose to believe empowering things about yourself/the world. You can choose to feel empowering states. You can raise your standards if you give yourself permission.

Pretty fucking real shit.

Note: The documentary had little to do, in my opinion, with what his seminars are really like. The vast majority of it is him speaking/teaching, group work with people around you, and dancing to Calvin Harris.

fearl3ss · 2016-08-19T10:11:24+00:00

Tony's teachings are pretty red pill, although he has twice married a woman with significantly lower SMV.

I went to one of his seminars, Unleash the Power Within. He talks a lot about the difference between the sexes. Men are the hunters, women are the gatherers. That kind of stuff. His ability to break frame is pretty fucking amazing as well. No one can bullshit him, especially when he is leading the crowd. He is Alpha to the fucking core when he's in his element on the stage. He literally ROARS at you and commands you to do basically anything. At one point in the seminar people spontaneously chant TONY TONY TONY TONY TONY...it's pretty insane.

The impression you get when you're at one of his seminars is that he is dog training you. Lots and lots of conditioning. The bright light flashes while you hit your chest while you repeat an incantation. He is ordering you around and breaking you down for like 15 hours a day.

Everyone who surrounds him and works with him has 75% less charisma and pretty much comes across as a charlatan. The Tony Robbins organization itself is kind of sketchy, and they do a lot of scarcity marketing and pitch you huge $$$$$$ packages after several 15 hour sessions trying to put you in different emotional states. I think Tony's attitude is DGAF here. He knows it works, so whatever. I also think no one can match his unique ability, so he is forced with being surrounded by less talented and less interesting people piggybacking off of his techniques.

If you have a lot of disposable income, i would recommend going to his seminar at some point. The "Tony Robbins" brand and material has some pretty lackluster things about it, but the guy himself is one of a kind.

nimrodx · 2016-08-19T11:11:57+00:00

I went in expecting the doco to show it all a bit cult-like but now have some respect for the guy after seeing him at work. He makes bank off telling people the answers to their problems that they are simply too afraid to find out themselves.

The lady in the audience that dumped her boyfriend on the phone really confirmed a bit of TRP for me.

She complained that her first husband wasn't sharing his emotions and then Tony's response "well he's a guy". She then realised that she didn't even like her current boyfriend being open about how he feels and admits it was a relationship of convenience for her.

That confirmed for me that women don't really know what they want, but it isn't a man open with his feelings that's for sure.

Prisonerofmyownkind · 2016-08-19T12:38:32+00:00

Is there a name to this documentary?

TRPdating · 2016-08-19T15:23:50+00:00

This one chick whines about her dad not paying enough attention to her and he basically says to get the fuck over it

You didn't get it. He didn't tell her to get over it, he told her to blame him for EVERYTHING. Not just the bad shit, but the good shit too.

sj2k · 2016-08-19T14:12:28+00:00

My favorite moment is when he's talking about building your confidence to take on goals or live the life you want and he would just repeat to himself "I'm unstoppable. I'm unstoppable. I'm unstoppable." until he couldn't leave that mindset and it was ingrained in everything he did.

A very small moment but for some reason, that stuck with me.

scissor_me_timbers00 · 2016-08-19T13:31:34+00:00

Yeah I hate all that California new age self help shit too, but I've come to the conclusion that Tony Robbins is pretty much the real deal.

d0lphinsex · 2016-08-19T11:39:27+00:00

As I understand, Donald Trump has been having Tony as a personal NLP trainer. They seem to have the same language, with big, positive words that really doesn't say anything but to create positive feelings in the observer.

Scott Adams on these "Wizards".

Dookiestain_LaFlair · 2016-08-19T20:19:10+00:00

I actually got stuck in an elevator with Tony Robbins one time, and he was able to teach me to see people for what they really are on the inside.

MyLeftShoeIsRight · 2016-08-19T15:08:43+00:00

I watched this and i liked how he dealt with most of the situations but to me it seemed like he emasculated that one dude in a bad way. The way he grabbed his head, lol, that was just wrong.

hightlevel · 2016-08-19T13:54:15+00:00

He is a very gifted huckster.

1015814_13 · 2016-08-19T11:40:08+00:00

Worth watching for many reasons but I was really impressed with his reading of body language, for instance [spoiler alert] the moment the suicidal German kid changed his breathing. Loved the way he shut down the daughter in the mother/daughter intervention, when she started touching her hair to flirt with him.

nyxlucis · 2017-01-14T17:27:34+00:00

I know this is an old post but i just watched the documentary.

Can we all take a second to appreciate that, when he pulls up the beta guy that his self-entitled golden pussy partner dragged to the conference, despite the fact that Tony addresses immediately the fact that he's a Beta and he needs to man the fuck up, the guy roars and as soon as he does that he crawls back to his female to seek her approval. ( And Tony says "You were doing good but you fucked it up by going back to her" ).

Not only that, when Tony is in the car he receives the message that they had the best sex ever and he's decided that he wants kids. At the end of the documentary you discover that 11 months after they had a kid. He fucking knocked her up the same fucking day.

The best part is that, when the female co-worker of Tony tells him that "he's ready to have kids", he burst in a semi-laugh that he immediately masks by saying to the perplexed females in the car "We live in a funny world".

This guy knows his shit and let me tell you, as OP said, he knows Red Pill theory.

MrChadthunderc0ck · 2016-08-19T14:37:50+00:00

Dude Tony Robbins is the shit when it comes to revamping yourself. Like I wrote for one dude the esoteric shit may not be to your liking but it WORKS and amps you up! Its pretty awesome doing the shit he says to do to make stuff happen in your life.

aanarchist · 2016-08-19T15:20:34+00:00

that feelgood crap that they usually peddle doesn't cut it anymore, they have to step up their game to make sales.

[deleted] · 2016-08-19T15:41:36+00:00

So he's basically Dr. Laura's counterpart?

fobcat · 2016-08-19T16:45:36+00:00

Funny, I just watched the doc. this past weekend. Although it's a bit gimmicky, I think Tony is genuinely trying to help people (which probably comes from his abusive relationship with his mother). I like what he said about being thankful for people in your life (especially your parents), because they made you who they are. Especially if they were shitty, as they gave you a lot of the drive to be better/improve your own life and relationships.

That being said, I think the biggest issue with these people at first glance seems to be follow-up. For instance, he probably gave the correct advice to the woman whose daughter died at 16, to try and contain the fallout with her remaining kids. Instead, she's back in 2014 at the same $6k seminar, and now her other daughter is predictably fucked up. She should not be back at his seminar---she should've done multiple years of therapy and actually made a change. A weeklong seminar is not enough for that.

As others have said, getting the beta male to become more alpha (roar!) certainly drew parallels for me to the content here.

And, yes, Tony could have any woman from that audience bent over in front of him.

Stythe · 2016-08-19T16:48:23+00:00

A lot of self help stuff is just long, drawn out ways of saying suck it up, don't make excuses and look at your actions. They just invent bullshit terms like "pain body" or the "already always listening" and sell the obvious to you at mint prices. People eat it up because it convently sidesteps their ego while still getting them to do what they need to.

It's no surprise that his work would be RP. He's highly regarded as motivational and his band is fairly well known.

Once again, TRP is just plain speak for a lot if self-help theory. It's just not dressed up to avoid hurting your feelings.

BusterVadge · 2016-08-19T19:03:30+00:00

Tony is a God among men. I've been using his stuff for the better part of 15 years, and it's interesting to see how he's changed.

Around the time of his divorce, he's adopted an IDGAF attitude, and he's much more alpha now than he was then.

Expectations1 · 2016-08-19T23:53:26+00:00

What i'd like to know is how is a guy like Tony Robbins to just simply hang out with.

I understand he is amped up and energised in a crowd full of people hanging on his every word he can say basically whatever he likes, and he needs to because some people are in such a state that they literally need to be shaken up with the truth to wake up.

But how would he be just chilling on a Sunday afternoon or getting the groceries done?

thecometblast · 2016-08-21T04:17:23+00:00

He gives you the Tony Robbin Feeling, a feeling of understanding and inclusivity. He helps people move on from their past, whether from abuse or bad choices. He reveals uncomfortable truths by asking questions and steering, with a combination of social approval, strong body language, extreme language, authority, inspiring music, and fire walks.

But this good feeling disappears. The feeling from giving a roar, getting claps from strangers, doesn't lead to any permanent change. Rather, changing ones environment to be around the right people, moving forward from the past and not paralyzed, maintaining good habits, so forth, will.

The plain advices wouldn't be so convincing if Tony presented as such. People won't believe them. I don't know how many times Tony have to say he suffered to gain trust. If he priced his workshop lower, then it's possible that it would be less attractive to people. I feel like I am being steered so much by his tactics.

I hate the scenery, the multitudes of people from different walks of life converging to see the multimillionaire Tony Robbin. He influence them to no lasting change, and then when he's right about something it seems blown up. He creates hype. The documentary reminds me of Marjoe.

I wish I am Tony Robbins. He has a good image and owns the room. If there is a take away, it's to watch Tony, not neccessarily what he says. I can't deny that his workshop can be a great catalyst to change, that's it.

Mosin_999 · 2016-08-19T12:52:03+00:00

I like Tony a lot. Not a fan of the screaming seminars but he seems pretty genuine to me at least.

I'll have to check out the doc.

SenorLopez · 2016-08-19T17:24:58+00:00

Watched this film about two weeks ago and really thought the same. Wanted to try to give a nice summary of the documentary but got too sucked into it. Great watch.

makechangegreatagain · 2016-08-19T13:08:27+00:00

Like another poster said the other day.. Before third wave feminism and all of this neurotic PC nonsense from the left, the red pill used to be known as "common sense". A sort of loose blue print to live with dignity. Fatherly advice for sons so they do not live spinelessly.

The only people who hate on trp are the idiots still plugged in. Most people see things that challenge their world view with contempt. Look at all of the neckbeard 17 year old atheists who argue against religion all day everyday despite the ancient wisdom of religious texts that has persisted through aeons. Religion obviously has some benefits for the average individual thus it still exists and persists. The atheists (like 3rd wave feminists) bring nothing to the table when it comes to wisdom or lifestyle, theyre just focused on shooting down religion.. perfect example is that obnoxious amazing atheist guy who just likes to listen to himself talk.

Dont get me wrong.. religions do obviously have their flaws, the texts were developed and interpretted by man after all.. the point is that them and the red pill are not always bad. Sometimes shitty negative misunderstanding people represent them or sometimes an idiot will get their feelings triggered because they realize they're wrong so they yell "shitlord!" And call it a day.

Pappa_Smear · Fri Aug 19 13:25:33 2016 UTC

HAHA! Definitely man! I noticed that too. Honestly though, I see red pill examples through life. I just watched the entire series of Dexter and saw so many red pill examples I could have started a mini youtube series based off red pill truths from that ALONE.

That guy who was dumped and who was the big pussy ended up getting back with her in the end of the documentary. Beta male provider shacking up with post wall chick. She knows she cannot get any better and HATES him for it but is addicted to his money.

DenyinTheHolocaust · 2016-08-19T15:27:25+00:00

RSD Tyler draws a lot from Tony Robbins as well. Tony Robbins is a fantastic resource.

Title	Massive red pill truths in a really unexpected place: a Tony Robbins documentary.
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