Morality wont save you from Hypergamy

Westwood_1 · 2018-05-22T03:17:41+00:00

Whether or not conduct is a "winning strategy" is not relevant to the question of whether the conduct is moral. In fact, the lives of the world's greatest moral teachers seem to suggest that morality leads to temporal poverty and persecution. Christ and Socrates – arguably the most influential philosophers and moralists in western society – were both killed for their teachings. One of the foundational premises of western philosophy is that pursuit of morality and "the good" isn't meant to be materially advantageous.

There's no question that what you did was morally wrong. The actions of others contributed – you were chased, he apparently let himself slip – but you also violated social and moral codes. There's no way of getting around that.

Which brings me to my point – this post reads like an attempt at rationalization. Your decency and morality were recently called into question, so you came here and wasted our time with an elementary attack on morality ("It isn't materially profitable, so it's fairy tale nonsense") and explained how everyone else in your situation is responsible for your actions.

TRP claims to be amoral. Let's keep it that way. At the very least, if you're going to attack the notion of morality, read up on your philosophy first.

Ramesses_ · 2018-05-22T02:31:18+00:00

Ah but imaginary rulebooks is how we navigate the world. The whole anger phase is borne out of a realisation that the other side was never ever playing by the rules. "I've been wasting my time being noble and they couldn't even do me the honour of reciprocity," you think. Expecting reciprocity is a fool's errand but it is a male concept and it's not going away. Unemployed puffy thinks, "I wouldn't do that to you!" It's a masculine appeal to fairness though it rarely if ever works. Many who succeed ruthlessly exploit this weakness.

But there's nothing wrong with discussing morality even if it's rarely definitive.

puredemo · 2018-05-22T02:37:11+00:00

Condemning you verbally like that would historically be a precursor to violence.

Strong condemnation --> get others on his side who agree with his moral code --> lynch your dumb ass --> go have some beers and celebrate!

We just happen in a time period where the violence part never actually happens... since it's never actually worth it due to jail time... so yeah, it's pointless.

Moral codes are not enforceable without some violence to back them up.

You're supposed to feel shame as an emotional defense mechanism against being attacked and beaten by his posse.

But since you're shameless, and he isn't really going to do anything, yep, it's all bullshit.

Try that shit in Venezuela though.

PabloAsscrowbar · 2018-05-22T02:35:32+00:00

Not just hypergamy. It is applicable to everything. Morality does not save people from harming you, backstabbing you, betraying you, etc.

Thinking that morality will save you is the same as animal-lovers hoping that starving lions will not eat them just because they love animals.

Comp1ex · 2018-05-22T04:48:42+00:00

Morality is just an own person’s values in realizing their vision. Personally, I wont go for a girl who has a boyfriend or significant other since there are plenty of other girls to game and I wouldnt want both the potential conflict with the boyfriend or even the girl

tteabag2591 · 2018-05-22T16:11:32+00:00

I agree that the old moral values in western culture are now being used as a way to keep the men playing by said rules while the women throw them out when it's convenient and too late. My stance is, I will reciprocate up to the point they're not reciprocated back. Copycat morality if you will. It allows you to keep the pragmatism in the morals without falling prey to one sided application. It's the best way to handle it by my estimation. This is largely based on game theory.

CasaDeFranco · 2018-05-22T04:54:58+00:00

Leave this type of content for your diary.

EscapeTheGoat · 2018-05-22T02:49:52+00:00

Morality is all about should. This is how people should act. This is how people should be. Fuck that.

Real men deal with is and how.

miller211 · 2018-05-22T18:05:52+00:00

If your SO is cheating.. I have never understood how you can blame the person she cheated with??? Wtf

oneredguy · 2018-05-22T05:52:32+00:00

Don't worry bro you'll get endless weak fags in here to tell you that you are the bad man for going with a woman who, let's be honest, wanted you.

And endless pathetic fags hamstering why you should be on their side. No mention of how they will be on your side. But yeah you somehow owe them cause they exist.

And almost no one will see the lesson. Dgaf, gain power, have power, and women will follow along like the sheep to the slaughter. Only now they even bring their betas money with them lolololz.

What can we even call the pathetic beta male? He's less than the sheep. He's the sick infested sheep dog, who can't protect what he refuses to own, and he owns nothing, not even himself. Who follows his sheep master around, licking her wounds, wife us wolves eat her. Just because we're hungry.

And he weeps in the dark, curled in a ball, and never ever does anything. Even when he comes find us, and we hit him over and over, screaming, "wake up". 😂😂😂

You should have used her harder so she would have started spending his money on you. But hey already risky business with the fogged asleep betafags trying to moral shame you into the very pathetic me me me morality they desperately think they can somewhere somehow impose. With their incredible disgusting weakness.

halfback910 · 2018-05-22T15:40:10+00:00

Morality, trust, decency, and the ability to disagree and argue without violence are the hallmarks of civilization. We need those things to enjoy what we have. We know this. That is why people who are immoral, untrustworthy, indecent, and violent are ostracized. And rightly so.

If someone stole your bike I bet you would want them ostracized. And I, as someone who has an interest in the sanctity of my property being maintained, would join you in ostracizing them even though I was not wronged.

You need to do a bit of soul searching, I think.

monsieurhire2 · 2018-05-22T20:15:52+00:00

Um, actually, your morality WOULD save you, if the cuck were the type, to say, kill the person cuckolding him in a fit of rage.

Also, you SHAT WHERE YOU EAT! Never a smart move.

See, people think that morality is all about altruism. But that's only from a shallow reading. Really, self-interest and morality are inextricably intertwined.

You think what you accomplished is so great? All you did was fuck some guy's bored sloppy seconds. All that stuff she told you could be self-serving BS designed to seduce you into doing what she wants. Also, you could have pursued and had sex with single women. Instead, you give attention to a married woman and put your life at risk. This is from a scarcity mentality. You didn't say to yourself, "Sure, she wants to fuck, but I can always find someone NOT AT WORK and NOT MARRIED." Instead, you said, "Gee, I get to get my dick wet, I better seize the opportunity or another one won't come along!" Don't be that guy. Be a better guy.

ex_addict_bro · 2018-05-22T23:05:32+00:00

This post is so crucial to TRP yet so simple, that there is no amount of reddit gold or upvotes to describe its value. But still, guys who don't get it, just don't get it, maybe they won't get it. Sadly, including ECs posting in this thread, like u/monsieurhire2 (nice white-knighting, bro).

There is only one, true law, it is called "the reality". Or "nature" or whatever you want to call it. Our mission in the "upside down clown world" is to un-learn what we've been taught and to learn about "the reality", find more and more of its rules and to embrace it, to bend it to our wants and needs, to play the real game, for once.

The so-called "morality" or "values" like religion or patriotism were created by groups in charge, to control the masses and to make them fight for their interests. Nothing else. This is exactly what you wrote, "trying to control others with a proven losers strategy".

That woman came to fuck you on your terms, all she wanted was to be impregnated by you. Why shouldn't you use her as you wish, why somebody should criticise you for that and why shouldn't her husband dump her afterwards, I have no idea.

The deal is very simple, both human sexes are biologically wired to do what they do to keep the homo sapiens species running, that's our firmware, that what that woman came for. Sexual toys and contraception are just some of our MALE inventions to keep the things spiced up and with no consequences.

"Hypergamy doesn't care" is one of the rules. "Cucks gonna cuck" seems to be another, because the level that some guys don't understand this is astonishing.

TheLaughingRhino · 2018-05-23T04:05:01+00:00

The Red Pill is "amoral"

But every man NEEDS a CODE.

Without "values" ( ones you determine for yourself) as guideposts, a man will be adrift. And you can't be the best version of yourself if you are adrift.

One of the problems I see with guys in the subreddit is they only go as far as to point out the "amoral" part.

If you feel it's part of your "code" to bang a married woman or an engaged woman or a woman in a traditional formal commitment, then that's on you. Your choice, your life.

You've lost frame by coming here, because clearly it bothers you and you are trying to openly justify your choices. You are trying to pull yourself up and pull him down, for your own validation.

Something to consider is any guy can also throw out his "imaginary rulebook" and take a shotgun and blow your head off. And he might show up to your house, or when you are with your family. And wipe out your little cousins, your mom, your nieces, some random kids, some bystanders. It works both ways.

I used to know a guy who spend about a decade robbing people by breaking into their homes. Sometimes the residents were inside asleep. It was like a game for him. Most of the time, the places were empty. But he was totally honest with himself. He said every time he did it, he prepared himself to die. You break into a man's home, to steal his stuff, you should be prepared to die.

It cuts both ways. Every dude here who wants to bang a married chick. Fine, but be prepared to die. An engaged chick. Fine, but be prepared to die. A chick with a boyfriend. Be prepared to die.

Someone will say, what are the odds of that?

Life is cheap. Including yours. You don't know how anyone will react.

Beta Bucks who are plugged in, they deep in the Matrix. They see you taking everything they have, all their life, their validation, some of them will snap. Some of you guys don't see it, but I see it. More of these dudes are gonna snap and more of them are going to react in a way most of you believed wasn't possible or likely.

You've lost frame. Do it if it's within your code. Don't try to rationalize it to validation how you feel.

Title	Morality wont save you from Hypergamy
Author	redpillcad
Upvotes	19
Comments	73
Date	May 22, 2018 1:35 AM UTC (8 years ago)
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