No One Is On Your Side

SenecasSuicide · 2018-02-18T10:02:46+00:00

The only one contemplating your existence when you'll be lying on your deathbed will be yourself.

cappadocianhawk · 2018-02-18T08:59:35+00:00

Strength that doesn't come from yourself is not strength. Only the things you've earned through sweat and blood is worth anything.

RedEmbrace · 2018-02-18T12:04:19+00:00

I don't agree and here's why. There can be layers and layers of people who are on your side. At least on the side of the image you project. Most people don't even have a frame and therefore are easily influenced by a strong one. Establish a strong frame for you at first. And as your frame gets stronger and "bigger" it's going to expand beyond your own self. You are going to consume other frames and that's how you get people into you. These influenced, converted, consumed, trapped in your frame folks are going to defend your frame as its theirs.

That's how you get allies and move up the social hierarchy providing you with social proof and other obvious stuff. You must create your own brand to establish a cult of personality and this is why the narcissism part of DT is important. You can be ten million times "alpha" in your own mind, but the real power is always in other people - in control. When people believe in you they follow you - they don't even need logic or facts or even your real value for this as a belief might as well be totally irrational. Project and defend your frame and people will fall into it.

MrStatocracy · 2018-02-18T12:05:11+00:00

It's much easier to achieve your goals with your pack on your side. Being a lone wolf will just make things harder. But i do think you are right, people want you to stay where you are IF they don't need you.

360_no_scope_upvote · 2018-02-18T14:27:35+00:00

Pursue your dreams, open a business, do that stand up comedy. Become a competitive bodybuilder, and watch. Look at the people in your life and see for yourself how cruel everyone can become in trying to pull you down.

Your success reminds them of their own failures, your actions are assaulting their pysche. The warning bells are ringing so loudly that they have to lash out at you 'No you can't be that person' 'I refuse to accept this' to relieve themselves of the mental pain. The closer you get to it the worse it gets. That's why you MUST believe in yourself unrepentantly.

No one can tell you how to live your life or what direction you should take. Sometimes you can go your whole life figuring it out. I'm nearly 30 before figuring out what it is I wanted.

However you should adopt the habits of successful people regardless.

People with limited scope see things as frivolous. Uncertainty is such a powerful motivator that men and women become locked to their stations in life. "I can't do that! I have a job, I have bills to pay I have responsibilities!" parroting the same programming as your parents and everyone else with a chip on their shoulder. The Truth is those people never persued their dreams, and because they denied themselves they became bitter and jaded. People around you hate it when you pursue what you really want, they will beat you down, eviscerate you and go out of their way to tell you how stupid your aspirations are and the closer you get the worse it gets.

Do not toil through life wondering what if, it is the ultimate regret.

TheLoonyDuck2 · 2018-02-18T13:04:50+00:00

99% of people are not on your side. They either want to see you fail or they don't care enough to want you to succeed.

But there will definitely be people out there who want to see you succeed. That's what it means to have a proper friend. Finding those people can be extremely tough so treasure those people once you find them.

Swomp · 2018-02-18T13:36:00+00:00

Bullshit. My family has done everything for me to grow in life and I celebrate any and all of their successes. Family is the one circle of people that you can trust.

MakeAmericaRichAgain · 2018-02-18T14:36:50+00:00

Peer groups are a mixed bag. You CAN have really good friends who will inspire you to greater accomplishments, who will hold you accountable when you're wasting time or making mistakes, and who will create meaningful opportunities for you to succeed. However, most peer groups are crabs in a bucket, relying on social pressure to keep you from growing and developing as a person.

Anecdotally, I have two major groups of friends. The first I made in Middle School, and the second I made in late High School / early college. The first group is full of High School stoner dropouts who mostly ended up doing semi-skilled labor to make a living. The second group includes entrepreneurs, highly-skilled technical workers, and well-educated professionals. The first group is always complaining about some new challenge, usually a financial one. The second group spends every waking moment trying to retire before 50. The first group sends me the occasional text to talk about how great the old times were, and how much they miss the pointless endeavors we used to waste time on. The second group speaks exclusively in present or future tense, talking about how great things are now, and their relentless optimism for the future. One of these groups is healthy and beneficial. The other is a cancer.

Last point on positive relationships: In my experience, I've found that the people who have been the most helpful and supportive to my personal improvement are those older than me, who have functioned as mentors. Almost every teacher or professor who taught me important things viewed me as an interested pupil. Many of my biggest career achievements happened under a manager who viewed me as a talented-but-raw little brother or son. Some of the best dates I ever went on were set up by older men who thought I would make a good son-in-law. In short, some of the best relationships you can form will be with elders, and not with peers. Take advantage of those types of relationships - they can be incredibly fruitful.

BigMawsmidget · 2018-02-18T12:44:05+00:00

Keep friends close and "enemies" closer.

Said another way don't stay around "Yes men" if you do those aren't your friends their only there for your validation.

Chrisaub2 · 2018-02-18T09:06:31+00:00

I'm on your side nigga gang gang. I got people on my side though, bro tears me down if I miss a gym, had people cover my car repairs, etc. People who went from beta fag to trp with me. I would kill/die for my brothers, I know they would do the same for me, they've had my back in scary ghetto situations.

Headypenetentiary · 2018-02-18T12:42:41+00:00

People will be on your side if it's a side worth being on.

metholz · 2018-02-18T11:17:23+00:00

This is not true for everyone around you, redpill would be cutting out these people.
When I mentioned I wanted to start lifting around friends I get weekly messages from different friends about my progress or if I even was at the gym.
Some time ago a friend send an old photo of mine from 2 years ago and 35 kg more fat on my body to appreciate my progress over the years.
I have friends and family that would drive me to exams if it would made me less nervous.
If you not support your friends to "improve" them self, encourage for the better, critic for the worse if needed, they will not do the same.

thewrecker8 · 2018-02-18T13:23:46+00:00

You come into this world by yourself and you leave it the same way.

OneCovah · 2018-02-19T03:26:06+00:00

In a romance forum such as this, the alpha male is defined in terms of woman. In the real world, the alpha male has little to do with women. The alpha male is defined as a man of action, with many interests, women being only one. "No one is on your side. Not your family. Not your friends. Not your girlfriend. No one" refers to do your own thing, follow your bliss. Women have no role in this.

If confidence required a high level of achievement, few would be confident, which is opposite. We should all be confident with a mediocre level of achievement. Confidence is what matters, not achievement.

victor_knight · 2018-02-19T07:35:39+00:00

A friend gave me some advice many years ago after I waxed lyrical about something trying to justify what course of action to take. He said: "Keep it simple. Always do what you think is right".

IndianChad · 2018-02-18T13:44:51+00:00

My fam and close friends want to see me win....not all of us have dysfunctional relationships.

Federkiel · 2018-02-19T15:45:06+00:00

You always die alone. When you are really looking at life, you realize that you are always alone and people are only companions on your way, they eventually leave you at one time of your road. But the nice thing is that it is the same for everybody, maybe less for women, because men want to reproduce and have sex, but in the end they also die alone. Even you have a family that cares for you, i also love them. But look at it for yourself, test it, and don´t lie to yourself.

vitamann · 2018-02-19T21:48:12+00:00

"when you find yourself riding alone with the sun on your face..."

Dmva100 · 2018-02-18T15:38:39+00:00

Family used to be about masculine value and virtue, therefore making it worth investing in.

Now, modern family is the largest BP Feminine Social Convention enforced by nearly all facets of society, including the law.

HomeHeatingTips · 2018-02-18T15:51:28+00:00

take a look at the parents at an NHL game and you wouldn't even understand the sacrifices they have made for their kids to play at that level of Sports. Or the Olympics. there are parents that have remortgaged a home, or spent their life savings because they are on your side. Not everyone has deadbeat parents

dontbethatguynow · 2018-02-18T16:04:20+00:00

I have to say this isnt completely true when it comes to family. Some people have shitty families but for those of us that dont, they take pride in our success and continually motivate other members to do better. Ive found from my personal experience if there is only one person you could trust blood is thicker than water.

bvg68 · 2018-02-18T16:58:37+00:00

"No one is on your side."

This may be true for OP at the moment but does not have to be. Making and maintaining good male friends is critical to mental health.

xXSoroxXx · 2018-02-18T16:39:01+00:00

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Spicymeataballav2 · 2018-02-18T17:38:41+00:00

I agree with what your saying because it relates to me due to my line of work.

bitchple7se · 2018-02-18T16:40:32+00:00

I agree and I don't, read barbarians by Jack Donovan. if you've got no one on your side/tribe it's likely your a loser

DochreanSepp · 2018-02-18T16:07:56+00:00

I disagree with the family part. Not everyones home is broken and seeing your family as competition is borderline autistic.

Rdt767 · 2018-02-18T19:44:54+00:00

Crab bucket mentality. When you have a bucket of live crabs, many of them could easily crawl out but the others will literally pull them down and even kill them if they keep trying to get out. "If I can't have it neither can you."

I recently came to this realization about a blue pilled cuck I used to hang out with that masqueraded as a "friend". He's perfectly content with being a piece of shit while the mother of his children gets fucked by another guy and wants everyone else to be as worthless as he is. Literally any time I hinted at trying to improve myself, he would immediately get defensive and do his damnedest to put a negative spin on it to try and discourage me. Life has steadily improved ever since I told him to go fuck himself.

Old-Jewish · 2018-02-18T23:52:45+00:00

I think that though parts of this are true and there are many sore losers that don't like to see people doing better than them, many people will gravitate toward you once they see you making a name for yourself and will want to be a part of your success. Both of these can be dangerous, haters will try and drag your name through the dirt and bring you to their level and leeches will try to capitalize off of your movement and try to surpass you. You must see through both of these types of people and maintain frame and integrity to keep yourself up and resist stooping to their level. There is such a thing as true supporters though, they are the ones who not only support you but inspire you to keep progressing while they do the same. This is the kind of company you should be trying to surround yourself with

Redpilledaccordingly · 2018-02-19T19:57:16+00:00

I disagree. My family has unconditional love for me, and were prideful of my accomplishments. The feeling is mutual as well. Friends are a different story, they got offended almost when I said I am going to go pursue my dreams. After I cut them, it a took a few months for them to stop talking about me.

JR-DC1 · 2018-02-21T00:00:57+00:00

Solid post, very motivational. Agree with you there, just wanna add that at some point people become your followers, but even that is temporary.

TunedtoPerfection · 2018-02-18T18:26:51+00:00

Overall the tone and message of this post is good. But your treading dangerously close to becoming an isolationist, which will greatly hinder your progress.

Stay away from extremes in both your thinking and your expressing. In reality we all live and act in a sphere that is well within the gray area.

VickVaseline · 2018-02-18T16:17:47+00:00

Trust, however, your father's words.

ThickFishingLine · 2018-02-18T16:38:29+00:00

A lot of this is on a subconscious level too. Not everyone is enough of a shit person to think,"oh wow he's doing really well, fuck him I want it." Some people are, but most people, on their outer conscious level, they think,"oh wow good for him!"

Then they treat you like shit and beat you down because that's their subconscious programming.

weouthereslaying · 2018-02-18T16:54:40+00:00

Tldr; you arent the only one who wants to succeed. So do whatever the hell it takes to make sure you dont get trampled by everyone else with the same mindset.

raywilliam639 · 2018-02-18T17:42:06+00:00

Some of your closest friends act like they're trying to help you

BetaBitchBoy69 · 2018-02-18T17:55:11+00:00

lmao i wouldnt trust my family if i was born to a single mother!

colzod · 2018-02-18T18:58:31+00:00

If it feels like you’re doing things wrong, it’s likely an indication you’re doing things right. You started this journey to be above the crowd, not part of it.

The is a new thought for me, thanks.

Eslapole · 2018-02-18T18:58:54+00:00

I have been that road before, and what happened to me is that I didn't like people succeeding because it made me feel as shit. If you are accomplishing your goals whilst I am stuck I just felt let down by myself.

When I saw other's people success I was wondering: why is he achieving his goals? What am I doing with my life? why can I be like him? Why I don't have the guts to follow my dreams?

So, as you said, I always tended to drag people into their "status quo". Most people do this not because they are jealous but because they don't like changes.

Fortunately, I realized it was completely pointless to focus on other's people life and I immediately got down to get my shit together and started working on me.

Ananonguy88 · 2018-02-18T19:23:29+00:00

Instead of increasing feeling of alienation and negativity, let's focus on this 1% that you can share strong bond with. I mean your bros, never a woman, of course. Having a lifetime friend(s) that you can trust unconditionally is the most motivating and empowering thing you can experience. I have a rare luck of having these. They are supporting me when I'm down, and cheering on me when I'm succeeding and vice versa. In the world full of hoes and their games and tricks, bros with clear rules and kind of red-pilled ethos are the biggest treasure you can get.

huge_gap · 2018-02-18T20:06:46+00:00

TL:DR - crab bucket mentality happens and don't let it get you down.

adamantiumvibranium · 2018-02-18T20:34:33+00:00

It's a dog eat dog world the question is which dog are you going to be.

I remember sitting at dinner with some people after ordering delicious seafood and they just kept talking shit about me. So I ate my delicious lobster, shrimp and crap legs while the poor bastards starved because they did not have one dollar.

People talk shit about you either because you have far surpassed them or you will shortly. You just need to sit at your proverbial dinner table and eat as a F you to the people trying to drag you down.

The best way to piss people off isn't to come down to their level it is to maintain yours.

LittleLegionaire · 2018-02-18T21:59:59+00:00

You're both right.

The only person you can truly rely on is, you. Me myself and I til the day I die.

BUT that doesnt mean other people dont have similar interests, and arent opposed to you: quite the contrary. So don't be a psychopath.

awesume · 2018-02-18T18:41:03+00:00

Can't agree. All my friends are excited about my modest 'winning'. At least on the surface. Parents can be tough - they just prioritize security over anything else. But no one else would dare to drag me down. Why would they? I'm not becoming an arrogant dick, try to make time to help out and meet, as friends do. People are not (that) stupid and want a powerful/resourcefull person in their circle.

GingerMinky · 2018-02-18T18:50:41+00:00

This is wrong! This is angry and maybe specific to the poster. I aid in my SO success which is what I should do as his woman while contributing to our lives just like he does.

refunkulation · 2018-02-18T17:43:07+00:00

I mean your post is basically going against all of evolutionary theory, but keep believing it. People thrive in tribes. Just pick a strong tribe, one that won't keep you down.

ShearAhr · 2018-02-18T19:00:33+00:00

Nobody is against you either. People are out for themselves. You live in a very hostile and more importantly imaginary world if you think people are out to get you.

Also your family is questionable if they don't want what's the best for you. Your parents don't pay for your education so they could see you fail.

RedHoodhandles · 2018-02-18T19:26:37+00:00

Maybe the world isn't either white or black..

Title	No One Is On Your Side
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Date	February 18, 2018 8:50 AM UTC (8 years ago)
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