On having kids

cray-cray-cray · 2015-06-05T23:00:58+00:00

Maybe this isn't clear to you... and maybe it doesn't matter to you...

If you abort, you and this girl are done. I don't care what she says.

Another very scary part of it is. I have been able to keep this girl in a constant flip between in my love and out of my love begging to get in. I have been able to distance myself emotional so I can do the cruel things that keep her attracted.

Then move on. It can be 100% her decision, and she will never forgive you for it.

thisisme0007 · 2015-06-05T23:22:31+00:00

Look up the Tom leykis hail Mary pass buddy

drtigerface · 2015-06-05T23:02:18+00:00

This is probably better for asktrp but you're here so now so let's roll with it.

These are really three separate issues..

Having kids - Is probably great. I don't have any at 33 but I'm planning on having some pretty soon. I think reproduction is probably the point of life.
Having kids at the age of 20 - Is a huge mistake. Life is huge, there is so much great stuff out there to do. The last thing you want to do is settle down at 20. Don't throw away your youth.
Having kids with this girl right now - Another huge mistake. You're 20, you're going to change. I've been in an LTR for 6 years now, and we've both changed over the course of that. I think back to the girls I was seeing when I was 20, my life would have been ruined if I'd been chained to them for 18 years.

Get an abortion, right away. Do anything it takes to make it happen. If you need to lie, then lie to her. Tell her you want to be with her but you need to wait before having a baby, there will be time in the future. Seriously tell any lie you need to. I've gotten two girls pregnant, the first lie worked the first time. The second time I literally had to tell her that I'd never be in the child's life, and she'd be a single mother. I'd fight her every step of the way on child support and she could have a good time finding some chump to raise my bastard.

It was worth it, I'm free as a bird.

BoomFapXCX · 2015-06-06T01:54:33+00:00

This will be one of those moments where you will take one path and the other will be forever in the past. While it is ok to ask advice you ultimately need to make this wholly on your own. Being a Dad is a big responsibility - I have two sons - it's also one of the best things that ever happened to me. However, I was in my thirties when it happened; 20 years is young. If you are cool with being a Dad, is this the right girl? You owe it to your children to at least make a good effort at being a couple, forever.

The other commenter is correct that if you abort, you are done as a couple. Accept that as a fact in your decision making. Your own personal feelings about abortion are important too. Will you be able to live with making the decision to have an abortion or not? Don't let any mantra (be it TRP, Blue Pill, Pro-Choice, Anti-Abortion, liberal, conservative, etc) unduly influence you.

I hope it becomes clear to you what is best for you and you act on it. Also, ignore the advice about lying and manipulating your gf to get the decision you would like. That is a really dishonorable solution for a man to take.

dandar4600 · 2015-06-06T14:11:39+00:00

There are ways to keep on being the alpha in the home with LTR. You're ahead of the game on that front because you're TRP aware already. Just keep lifting, never get a dad bod, don't start failing shit tests now that she's pregnant and especially once the baby is born. Know that there will be some comfort tests for which reassurance that you still love her will make the situation at home better.

Women want to fuck alphas but want to live with betas. You need to be alpha and sprinkle in enough beta that she feels secure in the knowledge that you can provide for her and the baby. If in doubt, books like No More Mr Nice Guy and Married Man Sex Life Primer are good refreshers on shit you don't want to do and stuff you may want to consider doing.

If there is no abortion then congrats on being a father. I wanted 3 when I was your age, now I'm 39 and have my 2nd on the way. Sometimes life doesn't work out the way you planned. Be a man and deal with it in a way that will make you proud when you're an old man.

oldredder · 2015-06-06T04:29:54+00:00

Re-assessed? You will be beaten down, having been taken by surprise, into life-long economic serf-dom and when your meager financial means - forget education - isn't enough to satisfy her, she'll take your baby, your money (child support, alimony) and get another man and maybe do the same to him.

I dont plan on being the kind of guy that gets cheated on

THAT IS EVERY MAN.

The type of man never dictates the nature of her cheating, only the morals she was raised with. She was programmed to cheat or not, to lie to get pregnant or not, before she turned 7 years old, by the morals of her parents.

redpillcynic · 2015-06-06T12:39:26+00:00

Abort. Your life is way too precious to waste over a special offspring with a suboptimal partner. Your prime will be wasted. Don't do it

Philhelm · 2015-06-05T23:08:54+00:00

What do you guys think about *abortion *kids *family

I'm not a religious man, nor would I pass any laws regarding abortion; however, I once asked myself whether I would want to perform abortions if I were a doctor, and the answer was, "No." I suspect that many women who get abortions wouldn't want to be the one to actually perform the abortion, so the act becomes more palatable when someone else performs the deed. Even if the growth inside is nothing more than a cluster of living cells, it would be the destruction of something that could have been. I think a judgment can be made toward societies that choose to destroy life rather than cultivate life.

I was in a similar situation, and chose life, as it would have bothered me not knowing what could have been if I had chosen the other path.

On the other hand, young children are like maniacally loud, miniature, running zombies that destroy all in their path; choose wisely...

tedcase · 2015-06-06T00:02:10+00:00

Get that parasite zapped pronto!

There are FAR too many humans on this planet already.

MyRedAccount · 2015-06-06T10:13:55+00:00

I'm another one that chose life. I've always wanted a river baby since a female friend talked about wanting one so it doesn't really change the balance of power in my relationship. I'll still leave if she pushes me too far, and if she behaves herself I'll take care of it and to some extent her.

Rationally it would have made sense to kill it. But living completely rationally is fucking boring.

I've got two months left and I'm still freaking out.

Code_Bordeauxx · 2015-06-06T20:23:58+00:00

I may be somewhat late to the party, but I haven't seen this mentioned yet: at this point you have to believe that she babytrapped you. Pills do pretty damn good job at preventing that otherwise. Do you realise what a big red flag that is? Even if you were open to the possibility of having the child, for god sake don't go through with it with this woman.

If she is capable of manipulating you to this extent it's only going to get worse when she has you on daddy lockdown. She doesn't care about your interests at all, otherwise this would have been a joint decision. Your relationship is already unstable. You don't want to be attached to her for the whole rest of your youth, let alone the rest of your life.

Have an abortion, but more importantly, abort any ties you have with this woman.

MentORPHEUS · 2015-06-06T03:31:47+00:00

Abort. It has happened in my past. Personally no regrets and glad not to be chained to those particular women. 20 is too damn young.

ETA: Never believe a woman when she says, 'I know my body!' in regard to needing birth control. Keep track of her cycle and know when she's ovulating.

Dr_HoaxArthurWilmoth · 2015-06-06T05:46:42+00:00

20 years old and you need to post this to the internet for advice?

Abortion. 21-24 are amazing years that should be filled with fun, travel, hard work and multiple partners - even if you just pull one additional piece of ass a year.

You are going to have regret no matter what happens in this situation, look out for #1 - you.

NeoreactionSafe · 2015-06-06T22:12:58+00:00

Having had four separate girlfriends get pregnant then have abortions in my life you are different in that it appears you are being given a choice about the abortion.

Most women simply use abortion as "late birth control". (you find out after it's done, if ever)

Is she a decent woman? If you think she could be a "good enough" mom then you might just go ahead and have the baby if she's interested too. Don't marry her of course.

If she's a terrible screw up of a woman with many vices and serious behavioral problems then you will be lucky to get her to abort. (then run like hell out of there)

TRPrelevantusername · 2015-06-07T14:28:17+00:00

Do what I did. Inform her of the pros and cons. Let her make the choice. Live with the decision.if she chooses to abort, its was her choice and you shouldnt feel guilty and make sure she does not feel bad. Reassure her she made the right decision. If she chooses to keep the baby, it is your responsibility and hers to make sure this kids will have the best life possible.

Regret is a an useless ,time-wasting emotion. Do what needs to be done and move on. You made your bed and must lie in it. Don't try to force her to abort. That is outright evil and selfish on your part and will have an effect on your mental health for the worse.

I'm not going to disclose what I did. But It worked out for me and I have no regrets. Goodluck.

monsterhunter32 · 2015-06-06T13:17:33+00:00

Like a lot of people on here I agree that this is definitely "Your" decision, and you have to live with the consequences of whatever path you choose. My only advice would be to sit down and educate yourself, particularly on the laws of co-habitation and divorce of your state. From the limited resources I've read California is probably the most brutal on men. But like I said this is your decision, so whatever decision you make, make sure it's an educated one.

Title	On having kids
Author	johntcalhoun
Upvotes	13
Comments	52
Date	June 5, 2015 10:30 PM UTC (11 years ago)
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