If you want to see the interesting part of this post, jump to the bottom

TO start off, I don't want to see any comments about me generalizing people. If we can't admit these trends exist, we will forever be trapped as a community

I have to start this post by saying I have nothing against white people. I actually admire white men for the social status and and SMV they've been able to gain and maintain for the past few centuries. I also have to start this post by saying I am not a "racebaiting blackpill loser". While I am in my very early 20s, I am not a bum and am working on self-improvement. I am 6'2", I wouldn't call myself a slayer, but I think my bodu count is decent for my age, at 19 I earned more than 80% of adults, 8k a month, am struggling through a top tier school, and am in the gym trying to cure my chronic scrawniness. I do not want this post to be met with "black guys have the highest SMV! Quit whining! You're using race as an excuse!". I don't know why often times, white men will get angry when black men talk about their uniquely black issues. I don't even hate white people. I acknowledge white men have the issue of being demonized by the media, being told they're all racist, and the same feminism that destroyed our community is now invading theirs. But that being said, I would like to talk to the black men who read TRP today. Regardless of this spiel, I'm going to say some controversial. I would like to talk about the black man's SMV, and how it affects our community as a whole.

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Black men, we are tied with dravidian Indians for the lowest SMV in the SMP. I'm not really talking about the lightskin, mixed looking guys with the curls. Not the guys who look like Kelly Oubre Jr. Their exotic phenotypes grant them a halo that exempts them from the negative stereotypes we have day to day. I'm talking about those of us with predominantly subsaharan African features, with the same phenotype as Kevin Hart , Michael B Jordan, Chadwick Boseman, Idris Elba, (and let's be honest, most of us were not blessed with their looks). We have the lowest SMV, and that stunts our growth, and the growth of of our community, and I will explain why in terms of what I consider SMV, Looks Money Status Charisma, with the order of importance being Looks - Charisma/Status - Money, or for RMV (relationship market value) Charisma/Status - Looks - Money.

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LOOKS

In our society, white is the standard of beauty. Everyday, anyone my age who scrolls on tiktok can see 5/10 white guys getting simped over by thousands of teenage girls, guys like Bryce Hall and Carter Vought, while their black male equivalent is an incel watching alpha male strategies. And what is the racist that looks the most different from all the others? Black men. Our big noses, protruding jaws, dark skin, and kinky hair are considered UNATTRACTIVE by the vast majority of women of other races, even by a large percentage of black women. They will just never say it out loud due to modern SJW culture. The truth is, most women secretly consider black men to be ugly. Most black men are delusional about this fact, but what race has the lowest match rate and response rate on all dating apps? It's not Asians. Black men have a weird thing going on, where we have been protected from this truth, because for some reason, it is considered acceptable for girls to make "creepy ugly smelly Indian" jokes, whereas if they were to say the same thing in public about black men there would be social outcry. Black women know about this fact, though, and it is a large part of the cause of their resent for black men (more on this later). Additionally, black men just genetically tend to have more masculine facial features. The red pill can cope all they want about "just grow a beard get jacked and shave you head bald, bro!". But this is not what women are physically attracted to. Women like men with athletic bodies, maybe not super big and muscular, but tall and shredded, like a basketball player. Red pillers think you need to be Arnold Schwarzengger tier. If you can rep 225, you're probably fine. If you can max out 3 plates, and you're low BF, you're pretty much already what the peak of what women will be physically attracted to, provided you've worked out your lats, traps, neck, and abs and shoulders, to improve neck size and shoulder-to-hip, ratio. Black men have excellent muscle building genetics, so they should have no problem with that. The problem lies in face and height. Yes blacks tend to be taller than hispanics and asians, but white guys are still taller. Additionally, for face, women like long hair or curly hair, with feminine facial features on a strong, masculine, caucasian skull. A masculine skull is a large one, with a square jawline, and deep set eyes. Feminine features are neotenous, like long eyelashes, thick dense eyebrows, plump limps, clear skin, think feminine noses, high, prominent cheekbones. Black men, on average, will not have these features. Our facial features are on average more masculine and less "pretty". Our hair is not long or flowing. We will never look like Justin Bieber, Vinnie Hacker, Zayn Malik, or even Kelly Oubre. For guys my age, these tiktok celebrities who become famous for being pretty boys, like Vinnie Hacker, would a non-mixed/lightskin black man ever become the standard of beauty like that? The beauty standard facial is currently the opposite of us. The most important part of SMV, looks, is working against us. A black man has to look like Idris Elba, Austin Dunham, or Michael B Jordan to be seen as the equivalent of some 7/10 white dude, just strictly speaking physically. Now there are some woman, I'd say about 20-35%, where a 6/10 black dude is just as attractive to them as a 6/10 white guy, or in some cases, even more attractive. Just physically speaking. But then, these guys get filtered out even more by other factors.

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Status and Money

Even more than looks, this is by far THE biggest thing stopping many women, including those of our own race, from being attracted to us. Let's say you get past the physical filter. This filter will immediately block out 80% of women over the age of 21 from ever taking you seriously and using you for anything more than a one-time fuck. For money, black men are the LOWEST RANKING GROUP socioeconomically in every country we go. Our countries in Africa are the POOREST IN THE WORLD. You think the rest of the world doesn't somehow notice this? Because of our low socioeconomic status, the overall poverty and crime rates in our communities, the chaos and corruption in our countries, the rest of the world views us as low class, criminals, low IQ, impoverished, can't take care of our women or our communities, overly sexual, the minstrel class, gang bangers ...etc. That spanish girl who you see post "black lives matter" graphics on her IG story? She sees you as inferior and feels bad for you. That biracial girl who looks like Zendaya you been dming? She views black men as less than white men, and would take a 4/10 white guy over you any day. That white girl you been fucking? She views all black men as cheaters, feels that they treat black women poorly and that she can use and abuse you because she thinks all black men lust after white women (more on this later), and would never consider taking you seriously. It's a known thing that in many BMxWF couples, the white wife regularly talks down black people and calls her husband "one of the only good ones". I've seen it time and time again. To be considered a good option to attractive women of even your own race as a black man, you have to be making six figures or more, and prove to them you're "not like the others". On top of that, you have to be good looking and charismatic, whereas all a white guy has to do for an LTR with a 7/10 is be a 5/10 with good social skills and not skinnyfat. This isn't to say that white men have it so easy. For white guys to slay a new girl every week, they have to be a good bit above average, but for a black man to even get one decent quality girl he has to be pretty far above average. I'd say for white guys, the 80/20 rule is more like 65/35, for asian guys, it's 90/10, for latinos and arabs, it's 70/30, but for black men and Indians, it's 95/5. (Again, not counting these mixed race and light skin guys here). A black man has to consistently compensate for the fact his race is poor, and perceived as criminals, to prove that he is "not like the rest" to women, his nonblack male peers, and his employers. He has to make twice the income, make an extra effort to come across as nonthreatening, and work twice as hard to prove he is just as worthy as his white and hispanic peers. On average, a black man has to be at least 5'11, make 100k, be fit and charismatic, and be a 6.5/10 in the face at least just to attract 7s that a white boy has had access to since high school. I'm not saying this to discourage black men. I'm not even saying this is a hard rule. Like in more liberal areas where there is a large minority population, like California or Toronto, this may be less of an issue. But for the majority of black men, the statements I make will be true.

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Let's talk about status now. In other racial groups, what is a high status career? Doctor, lawyer, engineer, tech founder, entrepreneur, professor. In our community, these careers are seen as "lame", and "for the white man". In our community, what is seen as high status? Rapper, singer, entertainer, athelete, gang banger, jail bird. In our community, people thing the only high-status careers you can have are in entertainment, sports, or crime. Careers that are unrealistic for 99% of the population, and are fundamentally about being dancing monkeys for every other race. As woke girls on twitter say, "they love our culture but hate us". This causes black men to be seen as the entertainment dancing monkey class for every other race. This teaches black men from a young age to essentially aspire to be bums. Am I saying "just be a thug bro! Grow dreads, get chains and tattoos, and start selling drugs! Just nuke your employability bro!"? No. I hate when people give this advice. All you will attract like that is complete ghetto gutter trash that you wouldn't wanna touch if you had two brain cells. I will touch more on this later, but this selection for shit careers reinforces our poverty cycle. But because so many black men are pursuing low value careers, it further lowers are status, and contributes to the fact that black men as a whole have built nothing of significance compared to whites and Asians in the past 500 years.

Charisma

Thus is the only category, in my opinion, where black men are seen as better than all the other races. This is overall a good thing. We are seen as charismatic, funny, good dancers, charming ...etc. The only negative with this is that us being seen as having charisma, and nothing else, reinforces the stereotype that we are for fun and entertainment to women and society, but nothing else.

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The black women question:

I would say overall the black woman is holding back the black man. I would not say this entirely her fault. It is AT LEAST 50% our fault. However, we have gotten to a point where we will have to solve a large part of our problems without them. Many of us think the black woman is loyal to the black man. The truth is, she is only as loyal as her options. Every other race has an easier time getting white men, since women are more race-loyal than men, except for when it comes to white men. However, the white man views the black woman as unattractive so they are resentful that they have a harder time dating out than black men. Additionally, we a black men do a terrible job lifting up our own women. The pillars of our community, which are unfortunately athletes and entertainers, constantly uphold the white beauty standard, which is the opposite of black women. And I frequently see black men bashing black women in public (they do the same, but still). Dudes dark as night talk about "they would never date black women".

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Additionally, they view us inferior. As I said earlier, every race has built more than black men in the last 500 years. They subconsciously view us as a conquered men. Some even are aware of it. Black women resent that their only options are black men, who they view as incompetent and inferior to not only every other group of men, but women themselves.

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Additionally, black women promote the cycle of bumhood even more by their early mating selections. Yes alphafux betabux yada yada yada. But in our community it is an extreme. In white communities, alpha is an above average looking, tall, athletic, charismatic dude who's fun to be around. In our communities, it is an extremely good looking, gangbanger or entertainer, with no trajectory towards success and no ambitions, or someone who is already an entertainer, rapper, or athlete. I have seen educated black women date choose to date absolute bums rather than be someone of their own socioeconomic status. No white or asian woman over 21 does that shit.

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Black women resent black men for all these reasons. They constantly combat and belittle black men. Other races value men just for being men. In our community, a man has to be providing either a lot of money and status, or be extremely good looking, just to get a 7/10 girl. A man is not valued just for existing in our community, even more so than in others. Our women don't value masculinity because they didn't grow up with it. In our community, where "getting pussy" and "being a player" is a large part of how your masculinity is defined, experiences that the average white guy had at 16, an average-above average black guy will have to work extremely hard for. The abuse and lack of love most black men experience from black women from a young age makes them believe they need to become these celebrities to get it, and they spend years compensating for their lack of success with women young. It causes them to chase dead end careers and waste time chasing pussy, amplifying the "baby mama" issue, and further driving us into poverty, and perpetuating the cycle of our women, and women of every other race hating us, and men of other races not respecting us and fearing us.

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Our women didn't grow up with fathers, and they don't value masculinity. This causes them to, on average, be overly combative and have bad attitudes, and go out of their way to antagonize men. If I told you the way black women antagonize black men on campus and actively push for black men's organizations to be shut down, you would be shocked. Some men are irresponsible and don't take care of their daughters, making our community worse. Other times, which is never talked about, black men are pushed out of the home, be it by the black women, or the government, like in the 60s. Regardless we need to return to being the head of households.

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Additionally, the perceived undesirability of black women deeply hurts them and causes them to be antagonistic towards the men they believe hurt them. Part of it is their attitudes, yes. But as I said, when black men get in power, we do a terrible job of uplifting them. Black women are seen as the opposite of the beauty standard. Now every race has attractive and unattractive features. Some of it is pushed by society, some of it is objective. Asians tend to have small and undimorphic bodies, so the women are not "thick". Whites have pale skin and thin hair, and age poorly. For black women, the objective thing that hurts them is two things: 1) size. Black women tend to be fatter on average. 2) Hair: admittedly, the afro hair-texture is unattractive on women. Most black women wear weave to compensate for this, but this is unattractive too. They don't have to have long straight hair to be seen as attractive, but the afro-puff and weave isn't cutting it. If they want to see examples of the way some attractive dark skin women style their hair naturally, in a way that men of any race won't complain, they can check out girls like @ biasonline on Tiktok. The rest of the healing the undesirability wound of black women is on us. We have to shame the men who say shit like "dark skin women are masculine/ugly" in public. We have to do a better job uplifting and praising our women, like literally every other group of men does. We have to get in positions of power and promote ourselves as the beauty standard, rather than letting white men dictate that for us. They have to take care of their hair, weight, and attitudes better. Simple.

We have to become financially successful and be in positions of power not just for ourselves, but so the rest of the world will respect us. I hate the fact that every country ruled by people who look like me is impoverished. And every other people notices this.

Additionally, because black men have not been leading our community, black women have stepped up and done it for us. This is a disaster. Black feminism is about antagonizing black men and making us "equal" which we all know will fail for our community. (See, Jordan Peterson: Luxury Beliefs). We are the only community where the women make more money than the men. It's a terrible look for us. We need to promote masculine values like education, hard work, and discipline in our black boys, and stop promoting black feminism, and rappers who promote cultural degeneracy. Mostly, we need to say "no" to our women. Black men, because our community is so matriarchal, spend so much time trying to appease black women. We need to learn to say no to black women's demand that we be equal to them, that we protect them unconditionally, that we accept liberal ideals, the same ideals that have destroyed our community. Black feminists often criticize black men saying "they don't want equality. They want to be patriarchs like the white man!" Absolutely! Matriarchy is what we have now, and when the black man gets his shit together, and becomes the head of his household, the black woman will thank us for it and fall in line.

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Men of other races (to an extent of course) build with their women, and their women are their muse, inspiring them to build and conquer. In the black community, our women antagonize us. They have been brainwashed by the liberal media, and want the black man to succumb to them. They resent us. They have had to deal with the pain and trauma of picking up the slack of leading our community where the black man should. They shouldn't have to. We will have to do the first part of this journey if we expect to raise our SMV and improve our community alone, building value by ourselves. They will fall in line eventually.

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A black man's options, and what it says about us

Alexander Grace, a youtuber in the manosphere, said the majority of his consultations were with black American men. Everything I said earlier is why. They have such little options. As I said earlier, a black man has to be exceptional to get the results of the average white man. Yes I know black guys who do well for themselves. But most of these guys are good looking, tall, athletic, and have good careers ahead themselves. Where I'm from, average black men, with average income, or even above average, settle for dumpster trash. We are literally known by all races for taking obese white women, bottom of the barrel gutter trash that no other man will take. Black male SMV is so low that we regularly deal with unattractive women with bad attitudes, multiple kids, who are overweight, that most other men wouldn't touch. Even men with above average income. I rarely see an average looking black man with a good looking woman of any race, even their own, whereas I see this all the time with white men. We are literally known as the men who are so low value that we will take any gutter trash unattractive low value woman that will fuck us. We have to fix our image. I'm not saying the average black man can't get an attractive girl, but I am saying it will be harder, at least 3x harder. This will be mitigated if you live in a liberal area, but it is still a problem. Again, I am not speaking in totality, but I am speaking in generality.

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Why black men should care

White men and SJWs aren't coming to save us. SJWs are actively hurting us by enabling black women feminism. Black male SMV being low is the cause of our communities being impoverished and shitty. Our low money and status causes all groups of people to disrespect and look down on us. Our perceived bad looks cause us to have to overcompensate for the same love a white man would get. By improving our SMV, and working as a coalition of red pilled black men together, we will directly improve our community and make life easier for black men as a whole. The ultimate goal should be having popular black owned media to push a different image of the black man and black woman to influence our youth.

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The interesting part at the end

I have discussed a lot of hard truths on this post and I know I'm going to be met with controversy. I'm ready for the "quit whining, quit racebaiting" comments. I'm ready for the "don't generalize! Not all black men, not all white people view you as, you sound like an incel blaming your race bro!". I'm ready for the "How dare you say asian guys have it easier!" (hint, asian owned media, kpop and anime, is increasing your SMV atm, and your women don't actively hate you). "But black guys get all the girls! Haven't you seen BBC porn? Haven't you seen rap music videos? I saw a white girl on tiktok say she only likes black men!"

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There are even darker truths about the black community I won't discuss in this post. But talking about this won't solve shit. I've talked too much in this post, but I have been typing for 4 fours, and I'm sure you've seen the quality of this post decline, with grammar and spelling errors I can't be fucked to look over, as I drag on. I have homework to do.

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Right now, I am not a high value man. I am a skinny college student, with a bad work ethic, and I am working to improve, and become a high value man, so I can be the change I want to see in society. The solution isn't having conversations. But what I want to do is build a community for black men who see the issue the same way I do, and want to work to improve. Asians have subreddits like asian identity, and TRP is dominated by white guys who may not particularly care about the problem with our community. I would like to just first build something, like a discord server, for young black men who want to improve and hold eachother accountable so we can become pillars of our community. If you're interested, I would love to see DMs from yall and we can set something up. I already know that most of the people here will downvote this post, and call me a loser, I don't fucking care. If you agree with me, reach out to me privately, by DM or by comments. I don't give a fuck how narcissistic this sounds. I know I'm going to change the black community, and this is how I'm going to do it. Start by changing myself and improve from there. Let me know if you share my vision black men and we can work to build each other up. Also, I know I said lightskins/mixed dudes might not suffer the same issues as us, but yall are more than welcome to join up. You are black too and still experience many of these problems on a day to day basis.

Reach out to me if you want to have a community of black men building up other black men, holding eachother acccountable, and rising to the top of the social hierarchy. Thank you if you read this whole post