Money is SEVERELY overrated

wtknight · 2023-04-23T23:50:45+00:00

Flaired CMV as this post is making an affirmative claim

AstronautLoveShack · 2023-04-24T00:44:58+00:00

The majority of people date in their own socioeconomic class. Despite what you may think, most millionaires are not dating trailer park waitresses. There are dating other millionaires, or the daughters of those millionaires.

DrinkItInMan11 · 2023-04-23T23:46:07+00:00

Suit yourself, money is pretty awesome.

Key-Pineapple-1427 · 2023-04-23T23:27:14+00:00

My dating life was better when I was making 25k a year. I’m making almost 3 times that now and I’m having an even harder time now

TurtleDickSlap · 2023-04-23T23:40:45+00:00

All of this is cope. I know this is cope because money gives you mass amounts of freedom and flexibility.

If you're working every damn day to make ends meet, you don't have time to get your body in order.

If you're spending every last penny on necessities, you don't have the money to enhance your style.

interesting-mug · 2023-04-24T00:06:54+00:00

In terms of long term relationships, women want a sense of stability. Having money is basically having stability. When we gaze into the terrifying unknown of the future, knowing that there is some capital to fall back on in cases of unemployment, emergencies, or building a family, is critical to one’s sense of security/stability.

As Kanye West once said, “having money’s not everything, not having it is”

Mr_Chad_Thunderpenis · 2023-04-24T00:03:46+00:00

A lot of money can get you hot pussy to fuck and hot pussy to impregnate. If before the money you never even had that options, you are now in an objectively far better position. So saying money is overrated is absolute nonsense.

Sad_Conclusion8488 · 2023-04-24T00:20:22+00:00

Said the guy who can't get a date.

Sabrepill · 2023-04-24T00:20:35+00:00

What you wrote is basically a half truth. Money acts as a disqualifier (if you don’t have enough) and an amplifier of your base attraction. Money won’t make an ugly guy attractive. But having money would make a guy that is a 7 into an 8. And not having money/income may make a 7 into a 5 or less

keenenandraz · 2023-04-24T00:41:08+00:00

You kind of contradicted yourself in your own statements.

MONEY IS BY FAR THE MOST OVERRATED. The M in LMS should be changed to Looks, Millionaire?, Status.

Even if you're a millionaire, if you're a minimalist living in a small apartment and take the bus to work, she DOES NOT CARE

You keep bringing up millionaire over and over as the benchmark, so it seems clear that what you take issue with isn't the idea that money improves attraction but that men have to reach for this to be applicable is in the 7 figures, not 6. However, I don't think RP ever claims that everything changes once you hit 6 figures. 6 figures is brought up more as the minimum criteria for a lot of these women.

PeopleAreLegitDemons · 2023-04-24T11:00:38+00:00

Women will pay for you if they find you attractive and sexually desirable

mildly_sexy · 2023-04-24T02:03:41+00:00

When it comes to money, they’re not talking about $110k. They’re talking about $500k

Incel_Finder · 2023-04-23T23:20:51+00:00

I'm sorry but this whole LMS, 666, SMV terms and beliefs are utter bullshit.

You folks are already uber privileged because you live in the West and live in the top 5% of the world's population as well as the history of mankind.

The only thing standing between you and your goals is the fucking bullshit story you keep telling yourself as to why you can't achieve it.

Sad_Conclusion8488 · 2023-04-24T00:25:09+00:00

If you want to attract women, be CONFIDENT. Be GOOD AT SOMETHING. Be HUMOROUS. Be politely curious. But above all else, do NOT be a WHINY LITTLE BEEYOTCH who complains about the perceived injustices you "endure".

PrestonHolden · 2023-04-24T05:25:00+00:00

Bro is speaking straight facts, there’s the level of taking her out every now and then, and then the level of buying her designer, in between that doesn’t really matter. Looks and status will get you much further.

elsugga · 2023-04-23T23:25:06+00:00

Alain de Button said that men who absolutely want to become rich and own cars and houses tend to be the most insecure ones. It’s performative masculinity

GreenestGreenist · 2023-04-23T23:37:35+00:00

Alpha fucks beta bucks.

DisasterPeace7 · 2023-04-24T00:15:47+00:00

Not really, does money make somebody more physically attractive? Of course not, but as it pertains to the dating market, most people slave away at jobs that they hate for money, go to college to get a degree to start a career that will make the money, got to buy food with money, transportation so on and so forth, so this thing that people spend so much of their lives trying to attain is not overrated, now the mentality should be that a guy doesn't make money to get girls it's that he makes money so that he doesn't have to take a lot of the BS that most guys have to put up with when it comes to getting girls. While I do agree that it's not going to change the burning desire and lustful attraction to act like a guy who's a four but makes a consistent and reliable $200,000 a year doesn't have noticeably more options than a guy who's a four and makes $60,000 a year is just false

Paranoidexboyfriend · 2023-04-24T03:24:20+00:00

100k isn’t that much money this isn’t the 70s. Im well off as my wife makes a half a mill per year as a specialized doctor. Things would be much tighter if she only made 100k.

Money still is impressive. You just need to adjust properly for inflation.

AbleBlack · 2023-04-24T04:55:09+00:00

Is a 120k considered high money status?

Cat_Lover259 · 2023-04-24T05:15:22+00:00

I love how you can easily spot the misogynists in this sub when they post LMAO

abaxeron · 2023-04-24T09:39:31+00:00

You're underestimating the amount of delinquent teens from poor terrible families who'll gladly and WILLINGLY reward a guy with three blowjobs in a row for a place to stay through the night away from their shitty parents and siblings.

The amount of money you make is quite irrelevant UNTIL adjusted for the amount you spend.

Making $5k/year above spending that you can save is cooler than making $1million/year but you still have to spend your savings to cover the expenses.

KayRay1994 · 2023-04-24T00:17:06+00:00

ah yes, my favorite genre on this sub - a title that i can fully agree with followed by a dark, unexpected turn that would nope me the fuck away.

Yes, money is severely overrated to a point (ie. can you support yourself? do you have prospects, etc), but so is status, the vast, vast, vast, VAST majority of women will not have, or even try to have a football player’s baby by 28, or even if he was a club promoter (frankly what even is a club promoter, i could literally pretend to be one and nobody would know the difference) - stop it, touch grass.

I think a point that needs to be emphasized is different women have different preferences…. cause they’re….. you know…. individuals, and given that many women would end up being pretty happy with a guy who has a future in mind, makes her feel good and be someone she can grow with (i know, these are very, very vague - but that’s a point)

Acceptable-Truck3803 · 2023-04-24T03:13:58+00:00

Someone sounds like they are in the anger phase still. Please avoid humans until you dig yourself out.

Looks matter for hookups and casual dating, looks + $$$ to do things and bring some stability allow for a relationship to happen.

SteveSan82 · 2023-04-24T04:38:08+00:00

Women will sleep with a broke man and even have a STR with him but she’s looking for the next best thing at the same time.

midwesternMD · 2023-04-24T00:18:19+00:00

1) you should really explain this LMS stuff in your OP. Not all of us are well-versed in whatever branch of TRP you’re referencing

2) I don’t know how money is really overrated in red pill. When I looked into TRP years ago, my take home message was 90% go lifting.

3) if your takeaway was that money is more important than lifting and being somewhat well dressed (ie looks), I think you just didn’t grasp TRP accurately. Or TRP has morphed into something really weird.

4) I will agree that money is overrated in the dating game. Money makes life much more pleasant, but it doesn’t do much for dating. Most people on here don’t earn very much/don’t come from wealth/etc. As someone who grew up wealth adjacent and who is a high earner now, money hasn’t afforded me much of an advantage in the dating game. The only “advantage” is that I don’t get pissy about who picks up the check. That’s not a big deal. If anything, I take extra steps to hide my financial status. I list my industry as my job title, I try to steer conversation away from career, and I dress down a bit.

I still wear work appropriate clothes for most dates, but I choose to wear obscure technical jackets or simply non-branded clothing. Basically, once you begin to make good money, you do your best to hide it.

Rileym7833 · 2023-04-24T03:31:31+00:00

Sounds like you went all in on money and are lacking in the way of being well-rounded, or at least lacking a healthy outlook. They ideally want the full package or at least a guy not seriously lacking in some way, the criteria weighting shifts if they're focused on short or long term. If they're looking very short term, money has no weighting. Mid-long term, it has more bearing. Women leave lovers who can't give them a good future for men who can offer more all the time. You can be salty about the ones that play around in their 20s while the focus is on short term if you want, but building the life and character they would want is how you win in the long term.

HobbitShaker88 · 2023-04-24T03:51:24+00:00

Women (and men) want financial stability or to reach a certain level of financial comfortability.

Boxisteph · 2023-04-24T21:16:37+00:00

Most women pair with men they consider average because those men are of her financial status.

Honestly women keep telling men the most important thing is personality but men don't care...

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grown_folks_talkin · 2023-04-24T00:14:28+00:00

Money matters also in that the upfront costs of dating become trivial, with things like that 70 to 110k difference. A guy can then afford to go on 3-4 dates per week or fly some girl out, then become more confident, more choosy, so on and so forth.

KikiYuyu · 2023-04-24T02:31:53+00:00

You know what does help you pull them? (notice I didn't use the word turns them on, you're just turning yourself into a betabux). HOW MUCH MONEY YOU SPEND!

How is that not money still mattering a lot? Your argument seems to be "money doesn't matter because women don't get wet over the number amount". I think the number of confused people who would actually disagree with that is very, very limited.

OBVIOUSLY it's the spending. Women are people, and people like money. The difference is, women are a lot more successful in using sex to get that money than men are.

If you can provide an ideal lifestyle to someone, you will have people bending over backwards to try and get a taste. Life sucks, people want to be happy, some people will have sex for that.

just having the number 100k on your yearly paycheck makes almost NO DIFFERENCE TO WOMEN in the real world.

Speaking of the real world, no one in the real world talks about a 28 year old woman like she's old and undesirable, as if that's just what happens when you pass the age of 25. You're either a teenager, or you've been brainwashed by social media if you think like that. Or you're just a creep who likes them young exclusively.

WilliamWyattD · 2023-04-24T05:03:49+00:00

Academically, most of the economic models used to model the mating market focus on people pairing up for a relationship that is at least in theory an attempt at something lasting. Thus, there really is no SMV/RMV difference. Male status and resources are still overwhelmingly tied to male reproductive success, so they should not be underestimated.

That said, if you are focusing on select demographics and male/female interactions, such as short-term hookups at college, or spinning plates in the Miami club scene, then the weighting of various factors will change. Of course. Also, male status and resources do impact actual female lust, but the OP is right that if the focus is on just how aroused she is, other factors can matter more.

throwaway1276444 · 2023-04-24T08:17:11+00:00

This really depends on your age. A lot of women don't care what a 20 year old makes, everyone is expected to be broke.

On the other hand if you are a 30 year old broke dude, it severely affects your dating chances.

LoopyPro · 2023-04-24T09:38:32+00:00

It's about the things and experiences money can buy. Not just in a materialistic sense, also think about the freedom and experiences you can have because of money. Women are appealed to the idea of being a part of that.

MSAPPLIEDSTATS · 2023-04-24T15:20:40+00:00

My friend slayed in high school in inner-city Chicago. He was light-skinned, six foot something, and handsome. He did not graduate high school and has been uncompetitive in the job market. I met up with him recently and his girlfriend is so overweight. Mind you, he was slaying Stacy's left and right in high school. What's changed? In your 20s and teens, it's cool to be just attractive or whatever. When you get grown, being broke is disgusting. Moral of the story, money isn't everything but you'd better have some.

RandomAttackHelpMe · 2023-04-24T21:30:42+00:00

Physical-Pie748 · 2023-04-24T22:02:36+00:00

the studies/the evidence are pretty clear. the studies are there, just look for them:

"Study shows women find rich men more attractive"

"Women are more attracted to rich men"

"Women are more likely to find rich men attractive. However, this isnt true in reverse (.....)"

Eastern_Ingenuity599 · 2023-04-25T21:23:57+00:00

Yeah, I don’t see why any of this should be surprising. You seem to be surprised that women also have sex drives and also want to fuck hot men that they are attracted to. You seem to be surprised that women want to settle down and care more about money later in life than their early 20s. It’s not because they aren’t hot anymore and have given up on the lifestyle of fucking around that you seem to think everyone secretly wants forever; it’s because that’s when people do that and they don’t want that type of lifestyle anymore.

You seem to want a hot gf as a status symbol and/or fuckdoll. Yeah, that’s not going to happen just because you make $100k/year. Bartenders make that much.

However, making this amount benefits you not only because you can invest money in your appearance which will make you more attractive but also because if you ever wanted to approach dating like a normal person, women would have fewer reservations about dating you because you are financially stable.

newzalrt883 · 2023-04-25T22:28:43+00:00

money matters for long term not short term. Also matters more as women get older. Young women dont give a shit.

TheDicDoc · 2023-05-01T06:23:17+00:00

they do in colombia

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