Pet Theories and New/Unfinished Ideas Megathread March 13

GayLubeOil · 2017-03-13T18:21:50+00:00

Women are herd animals that survive by following social norms and mindlessly obeying authority figures. It's very easy for them to learn and implement a new rule, and very difficult for them to analyze that rule.

So for example if some university professor teaches a woman about the imaginary patriarchy, a woman will never question where the idea originally came from (Frankfurt School) or what it's intent was (destroy the family unit)

The woman will then mindlessly use this rule, at home at work and in her social circle. In fact every discussion on that subject will just be her repeating what she learned in school.

Every gender differential will be explained away via: that's sexist, and if you question her logic she will fight vehemently to defend her ego.

thewrightstuff88 · 2017-03-13T14:07:55+00:00

When you snapchat a woman

Some of you may follow Kirill (aka slut whisperer) on Snapchat and you see the wild shit he does for a living. Something interesting I've noticed and some of you may or may not have noticed, is that when snapping (pic or video) women around you, some women will embrace the snap or not care what you are doing. However, there are those who will block their face, look down, etc, anything to not be seen on your snap.

Sometimes it can be your SO who doesn't have any makeup on, sometimes it can be an attractive woman who doesn't want to be seen on your social media (which would then entail that she is associating with you, which in her eyes could be bad for her SMV, something you see sometimes in Kirill's snaps with women).

This doesn't happen all the time but its worth noting how sensitive some women are to social media and how they seek to always put their best appearances forward because they know the repercussions.

The same can be said of women who want to maintain the "picture perfect family" or want to look like a "unicorn" (although we all know those don't exist) but in the background, are sneaking out behind their SOs' backs or enjoying the never ending CC (even with the wall).

stonepimpletilists · 2017-03-13T18:38:06+00:00

Lag time. Tell an ltr, and its about 8 hours till she internalizes it. Before then shell still bitch and moan. Ignore and wait.

Rollo-Tomassi · 2017-03-14T17:38:01+00:00

Male Anger vs Female Anger

There is a well-studied phenomenon called biases in anger attribution.pdf). The short version is that because men naturally possess/produce more testosterone they are perceived to be 'angry' more so than women. Thus, women evolved sensitivities to presume anger in men by default as a survival adaptation. IOW, best to presume anger even where there is none if you and your offspring want to live.

Anger judgments are informed by affordances for doing harm. That may not count as a pet theory since it's fairly well established, but what I propose is that this anger bias is extrapolated in a feminine-primary social order to be a useful tool in suppressing the influences and judgements of men. Women's natural proclivity is to see all men as being angry, thus, we get accusations of TRP as being a "bunch of anger losers" and the label sticks better because men are more prone to anger in women's natural, evolved, perception.

The same applies to the presumption that men are more violent than women. In cases of domestic violence this is only marginally the case. But when a woman is violent with a man, we socially refuse to accept that a man didn't do something to 'deserve' the violence being leveled at him.

And finally, men's anger is universally perceived as "toxic" while women's anger is perceived as "transformative" and empowering.

2dogsandpizza · 2017-03-13T15:56:39+00:00

Modern women are so shitty because they don't get enough exercise.

On mobile so I'm not going to write a lot but basically anyone who does serious exercise knows how far reaching the advantages are not just physically (which has its own positive feedback loop) but mentally as well.

The amount of women keeping themselves fit and healthy is a tiny percentage which seems to me to correlate with the number of fatties with shitty personalities.

God fat people suck.

LockedOnTheRedPill · 2017-03-13T19:48:09+00:00

I've been drafting a few "Cuck of the month" posts. Since you guys love "Blue Pill examples" so much, I figured I'd find the posts on several "AFC" subs that made me cringe the most. My writing is a trifecta of humor, red pill truths, and analysis of where they fucked up. Look for it to drop in the following week. If they get popular enough, it would be a monthly installment, with the highest upvoted one being declared "Cuck of the Year."

Terdmuffin · 2017-03-14T11:16:56+00:00

I'd like to see something addressing the fact that most guys here have been an orbiter with zero chance of sex and the fact it's common only stated that women don't see betas as sexual beings, but it's common assumed anytime a Chick talks to or hangs out with a dude that she's hanging him. There's a disconnect for me. I know it's hard to make the distinction between orbiter and Chad without really knowing the dynamic of the relationship but it seems that so many here are very troubled about the women in their lives having contact with other males while also realizing how difficult it can be to parlay that contact into sexual attraction. It seems that we all understand orbiters have no chance (especially because many of us have seen this first hand) but many also worry about women we are invested in sleeping with orbiters. Maybe it can be explained as easily as a woman living in the "now" and acting only on Feelz but it seems to be a conflicting duality.

StoicCrane · 2017-03-14T19:45:13+00:00

The basis for fear of rejection doesn't stem from rejection but from fear of death. As children what is the number one fear thst all infants subconsciously possess? Some might say spiders and their unsightly, prickly, fangs. Others might say the darkness for who knows what unimaginable terrors are nestled within it's enigmatic embrace. However, the number one fear that all children innate possess is the fear of abandonment.

An infant is a vulnerable creature. In our primal past, without any natural defenses or survival mechanisms it's haplessly dependent on the familial unit be it in the form of a nuclear family or an entire village. Most notably the mother for suckling upon. "Rejection" from all and either of these three compromises the survival of young tot invaritably leads death by wilderness should it be actively shunned.

Unbeknownst to many this complex of rejection/abandonment is rarely fully addressed in most. We tend sought the validation of others, at least during our BP phases, as a means to supplant our own personal sense of comfort and security as infants would with their mothers. Being usually the first important female interaction in a male's life this sense of dependency shapes and forms all aspects of the boy's subjective experience with women moving forward until or unless the father intervenes to break his boy out of such paradigms.

My theory is that the reason why "men" particularly fear rejection from women is because they subconsciously project the infantile vulnerability and dependancy they had on their mother for survival onto every woman they seek to have a intimate relstionship with. The woman's approval is subconsciously equated to survival whereas rejection of his advances on behalf of the woman is misconstrued as inevitable death hence the fear.

The type of love Men idealize and innately seek is that of a mother to a child. Our moms (in most instances) are the first women we've come to interact with. However, no woman wants to naturally nuture a child that isn't her's least of all aging old men. To consistently attract women the male has to behave as a father to a daughter rather than a boy to his mother. This is the mark of a well-developed man. [u]StoicCrane

By default men who operate from this frame are inherently Blue Pill. To offset this primal fear a man has to become fully independent to the point where he needs no one other than himself for survival. Ironically once a man achieves this the women who he once feared rejection from will in term fear rejection from him all while seeking his approval. Such is life. Such is TRP.

Inelukie · 2017-03-13T16:42:30+00:00

https://medium.com/incerto/the-most-intolerant-wins-the-dictatorship-of-the-small-minority-3f1f83ce4e15#.u23yc5mzw

Being stubborn as fuck pays off in the long term. I mean, what can people do to you, if you refuse to change? Unless they put you into prison/outright murder you, others usually can't stop you. If you manage to sustain that over longer spans of time/have kids, others might switch to your side though. In the long run, you win by not giving a fuck.

http://www.vox.com/2016/5/18/11691818/barone-mocetti-florence http://voxeu.org/article/what-s-your-surname-intergenerational-mobility-over-six-centuries

Same for money. Retaining the right attitude over generations is really hard though. If you manage to do that, you will essentially rule the world because few people manage to do so.

Everyone here says "Enjoy the decline!". Actually, you could also say "Sit out the decline and come out as a winner later on!". That is what happens with wars. Some people manage to put themselves into a winning position during the ensuing chaos and jumpstart themselves into riches in a short time after.

whatsthisgarg · 2017-03-13T16:59:03+00:00

theories you've been developing while out in the field

I've mentioned this here and there since I've been commenting, and so far nobody has agreed with me on it:

You can be the Alpha Fucks in a long-term relationship.

It is possible. I know, because I have been doing it for many years.

A lot of guys on here are so entranced by the doctrine that they either think 1) you must be the BB if you're in a LTR or 2) you have to balance the beta qualities, in effect castrating yourself periodically. Fuck that shit. You don't.

The closest thing to beta qualities I exhibit are that I am the one who makes sure the mechanical functions of the house and cars are in order, and I am the one who cooks, because I'm better at it and I know more about nutrition and delicious food. That is not beta shit, I'd be doing that if I were alone, and I don't do it for her, I do it for me.

But garg, what about the comfort?

She's comforted, she's not comfortable. You don't want a woman to be comfortable, you want her to be agitated. She knows shit is taken care of, so she doesn't have to worry about that. She works all day, so she doesn't want to come home and make decisions; she just wants to think about my bod and my hairline.

She makes more than I do, but I'm in control of the money. I'm not a provider of material goods, I am a provider of carnal delights.

If I wasn't her best option, this wouldn't be possible. And I don't want this to sound like it's magic or something: to be honest, I trust her about 85%. I would never ask her, but I bet she would say she trusts me about 50%, or less.

dawnlander · 2017-03-13T13:33:35+00:00

noticing old stuff sneak back in i.e, for me its IOIs becoming a handicap:

Blindspots can evolve over time and sneak back in after you think you've gotten rid of them -- I've recently noticed that I've let IOIs become a handicap: an excuse not to approach until I see one. After years in the game, I can "passively" generate attraction much more easily with my body language, positive energy and health, so I've unconsciously gotten used to looking for those female glances and gazes for the invitation before I do anything (which can often mean, I do nothing).

It's really outcome-dependence slipping back in and it goes against my general intention to just be a more social and friendly person... rather than succumbing to that little parasite outcome-dependence, that won't let you go up unless you have a "good excuse".

Could probably say more but that's not the point of this thread, so I'll just leave it at that. I know I need to just approach more and not discriminate against any particular person, especially coming from a background of social anxiety and introversion in the blue pill days. My recent antidote exercise these past couple weeks is to start saying "whatever comes to my head" when I'm doing regular things around town (talking to the cashier, or people nearby in the grocery store, for example) -- I get plenty of those dumb little thoughts and then my introverted, self-critical mind deems them "unimportant" or "not funny" or whatever other XYZ-excuse/evaluation to stuff it back inside. Its not being self-originating or self-amusing though, so I've started letting that shit loose and not caring about people's reactions to it.

Now that I've become aware again of that handicap, I must address it next time I go out. No excuses. Anyone else discover blind spots that they weren't aware of; things that might have come back that you thought you "conquered" or stuff sneaking in the shadows of your subconscious and sabotaging your game or life in general?

Bear-With-Bit · 2017-03-15T01:52:14+00:00

Women's need for thrill, drama, sex, sensual experience, degradation: Is there a term for this? If not, what shall we call it?

This isn't simply Cock Carousel. I was reading comments from another trp post from a couple of days ago (can't find it now) about how women who live stable (boring) lives in LTR/marriage with kids go out and find alpha fucks just for the thrill of it. The comments also mentioned how the man must create drama for his LTR a la dread or otherwise, because women need it on a biological level.

This goes along with why women seek and stay with violent men, why grown-adult women kidnapped end up in love with their abductors, and why rape victims fantasize about their rape experience and try to get their romantic partner to re-enact the crime.

Also shows why I need to choke, slap, pull hair during sex. Never seem to have a consistent plate after one or two sessions. Bitches don't like vanilla sex, it seems.

NiceTryDisaster · 2017-03-15T11:38:28+00:00

This is hands down the best type of thread on the entire TRP. Love reading other people's theories on sexual strategy.

Gobiel · 2017-03-16T09:21:27+00:00

Confidence in an area stems from neural pathways for fear in doing related stuff being burned. Thus fear of rejection will be erased after enough burns aka experience.

But bear with me. You can pre-emptively burn those pathways with negative visualisation.

stonepimpletilists · 2017-03-14T14:45:54+00:00

Another one. Total naval gazing, so I haven't really looked into it. But with the assumption that women mate up and across the status heiarchy, and men mate across and down, what do the numbers show?

What are the top 20% of womens outcomes? What are the bottom 20% of men? It could be simple spinsters and incels, but I'll bet the margins can say a lot about how sexual strategies play out.

Is it even ethical for people to study this? Food for thought. Also, can't really find where this knowledge would help me do something in a practical level... Answering the second will help me want to look into the former

do_it_or_leave · 2017-03-15T00:08:19+00:00

I feel awesome the day after when I abstain to come on my last round of the night. I don't understand why, but I feel energized.

Questionablechoice · 2017-03-15T05:55:23+00:00

The core reason why Eric Burne and theory of Transactional Analysis was discredited in main stream psychology was it's foundation was too heavily based in logic and being less effective for women than men. Later dismissed for it's anti homosexual or sometime racial biased undertones of an incomplete theory based on the science and education of the day. It was not dismissed wholeheartedly on the merits of competing theories or ideologies.

Transactional analysis remains one of the few areas of psychological theory which stands up to experimentation and can effectively predict outcomes.

One of the core issues with this is it's effective as a tool for improving male behaviors as most men respond positively to logical arguments. However it is less effective for improving female behaviors as these are most likely to respond positively to emotional support opposed to logical analysis.

As YouTuber Computing Forever identifies in the following view the field of psychology has been increasingly polarized into a purely female model. This has had a negative impact on male recovery and therapy. It also appears to be linked to increasing suicide rates.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PROQ8bgzMvg

IMO the theory is sound but needs further development. Unfortunately due to some aspects of Burne writing towards homosexuals it will likely never be readdressed. Burne wasn't homophobic in the sense that current people may portray him. Anti Bacteria medical was discovered only 40 years earlier. The idea that all non standard behavior could be caused by illness and cured was common place. Homosexuality was at the time treated as such by most of society. An illness for which a cure had not yet been found.

sqerl · 2017-03-16T11:52:08+00:00

I've seen it before, but when a chick says, "get your shit together", she's judging you against an ideal personification of a male (her dad or another alpha male), and basically telling you, 'you're not good enough, but I'm willing to hang around because I keep getting dumped by better men than you."

Women (well, some anyway) grow up with a dad they adore. They see him as a superman and infallible. This imprinting carries over into dating life and want the "good guy that loves them" or "has their shit together" but they want sexual attraction. Little do they realize their dads loved them as their daughter but fucked mom because of sexual attraction. Granted, there are couples where a healthy family dynamic exists, but I continue to see more and more daddy issues, broken families, and directionless wanderers who lack the grounding to make a stable family. Thus the decline continues.

edit: the opposite is also true and where guys want women like their mom.

RedditAdminsSuck_88 · 2017-03-15T15:54:49+00:00

Theory: RPTruthe = CaptainCringeworthy

Strum_Gewehr · 2017-03-13T18:29:01+00:00

Harsh religious laws spawned when shit hit the fan.

Most draconian laws in history were the product of a final stage society. As human societies went through multiple iterations of growth and decay the laws from the previous decay carried over. Last stages of society typically show suicidal violence and last stage laws spawn as a direct counter to it.

Much of these laws are summed up to be the eternal boogeyman i.e. The Patriarchy.

Examples.

Fedex packing of women in Islam. Probably started as a validation inhibitor or female encryption to prevent competitor male access.

Widow burning in Hinduism. Probably as a response to rise in violence over a dumb bitch.

Adam Eve story Christianity. Hypergamy.

There are plenty more examples in each culture but one that stands out common to all is that female education was discouraged and teen marriages were most prevalent. Just these two combined show that the men of old knew that women have a choice between orgasm or career.

Title	Pet Theories and New/Unfinished Ideas Megathread March 13
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