Someone discuss this with me…

ATadInfamous · 2022-02-05T22:43:12+00:00

Congratulations, you're treating women like normal human beings. No, but seriously, once you take every woman off the pedestal, and start judging each one individually on their merits, this is what you end up with.

Just as most guys are boring and not worthy of much of your time, so is it with women. I am no RedPill guru, but from my personal experience, I have found and dated women that were extremely mature and focused about their goals (a rare breed though, just as it is with guys). So I would say to keep going, and not settle for people who don't add value to your life. It has nothing to do with narcissism, but everything to do with finally setting a standard for people you intend to regularly associate with.

Best of luck!

blackdepotguy · 2022-02-05T22:50:13+00:00

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NightwingTRP · 2022-02-05T23:19:54+00:00

Depression stage. You're seeing the women you meet for who they are, and many are not impressive or admirable people. Keep going and you may bump into one or two who are. They are people and they are who they are as shaped by their biology and their experiences with society. You'll reach acceptance soon enough. If you wish to speak privately then I'm open to a discussion if you need it.

duke9996 · 2022-02-05T23:10:07+00:00

You good. You’ve grown, you’ve matured. You realize you don’t need to deal with disrespect or BS. Loneliness is also peacefulness.

AllmightBlack · 2022-02-06T00:01:24+00:00

trust me , it's just because you have more resources and status and they know it means money if they can get in good with you. physical condition and exercising and being in the best shape is for YOU, having six packs and large healthy muscles is for your benefit, that wouldn't change how your face looks etc. people get that confused thinking going to the gym is going to make them desirable to women when its more of what your given genetically and facially which will determine if women desire you for looks. that being said , these women are older, not getting their backs blown out by the bad boys who have the genetics that made their nethers tingle, so now they're trying to lock down the beta bucks. now you may not be a beta, but to them... you're mr. meal ticket and early retirement for them. so keep them away , go blow out some young sluts back if you want to , or just focus on you FOR YOU.

odaklanan_insan · 2022-02-06T00:14:25+00:00

Do you think these are signs of someone that has transitioned into the redpill or am I just some narcissistic guy?

These are not the signs of being a narcissist. Nor being fully red-pilled (Though it plays a role). It is simply an indication of your SMV being higher than those around you, along with being aware of it.

You have built a character using your intelligence and discipline, and you are not feeling like giving the fruits of that to empty people who don't deserve it. You don't want to sell yourself cheap.

That said, you can't just expect hot women to come to knock on your door out of the blue and jump in your bed whenever you feel horny either. That takes effort too. You have to have plates with whom you became comfortable with hooking up on a text message basis. Occasionally you need to (carefully) give them compliments.

Now, this part dips into the narcissism sauce a little bit, but you just have to do it for the sake of handling your plates with the least effort. Compliment them a little, whenever they do something that pleases you.

And I don't know if this is your concern but, if you are expecting to meet a hot woman with intelligence and character like yours, you're still not fully red-pilled. She doesn't exist.

A woman with character is a woman who submits to one person, who are you, puts everyone else in their place if they approach her or disrespect her. She cares about keeping you happy but also respectfully raises concern when you're violating her red lines. Separating these from shit tests requires some finesse, but it's not rocket science.

That's the woman you're looking for if you think you're going to find fulfillment in an LTR. Don't be shy to approach her when you think a particular woman might be a candidate for this role. Don't be intimidated by her SMV. Just go do TRP stuff and promote her place in your world over time.

But if you'd ask me, I'd still say that there isn't a single woman in this world who can make a man feel fulfilled. Our hearts are not satisfied by women. It has to be something bigger than that.

Xexitar · 2022-02-06T07:54:38+00:00

I keep saying this but most here aren't ready to accept it - women are a waste of time in every way. Take sex out the equation and you're talking to someone you have nothing in common with. All that's happened is you've realised it. In my opinion, you're a cut above the rest on here since you're able to accept it.

comcain · 2022-02-05T23:27:20+00:00

You're doing fine. As the rush of hormones fades from your teens, where everyone is a bit crazy, you gradually come to enjoy the peace and quiet. Girls are chaotic by nature and are disrupters by nature. Men are more orderly.

Also, finding a bright girl you can actually talk to about stuff is hard. I don't watch the damned Kardashians and don't talk about them. I don't care.

Enjoy these times. In olden days people use to be ancient in their 30's and die. Now we last to our 90's with a little upkeep and maintenance. I'm hopeful these times will last and worried they won't.

Cheers

redditisnowtrash · 2022-02-06T01:28:08+00:00

You sound like you grew up. You wanted these things that were unachievable and now you're on the other side where they want you for anything but yourself. Just have fun with it man, it sounds like to me that things have finally fallen into place and it feels a little off to you since you were probably always living in a state of "wanting" something to fulfill that void in yourself. That's just what we all do as humans, including women. Just have fun with it, you'll meet some weird ones but you seem to be fine rejecting them, there are some really cool ones out there for a short while and then they always turn a little weird from my experience.

I relate with the whole women telling me that I'm emotionally unavailable and then when you share, all attraction is gone. They don't actually give a shit, they are just wondering why you don't act like a woman and when you do, they get turned off. Just smile and keep doing what you're doing in this situation, I pretend not to even hear them say that any more.

iusedtobeanasshole · 2022-02-06T00:46:54+00:00

Interesting. I think is common, and might be a phase in your life, just as the previous ones.

I am divorced, my TRP Journey started right after that, two and half years a go. Father of 2 kids. Started improving, women started aproaching me, something i was not usted to. After the fucking-like-a-primate phase, I was feeling empty. It was fun, but got me nowhere. I Guess I became a DILF (dady i like to fuck) as someone once salud to me. Most women I have been with wanted a LTR with me. Some just wanted to fuck My brains once or twice. I would said that 10% of them were LTR material. But I don't want to commit. My kids are My purpose #1. Working, lifting & training bjj, recovering financially of My divorce, etc... All those things move around that Center. I feel alone some times, thats when I reach out to My Friends. Some of them are going through the same process as You, some are going through a phase like mine... And some are in a LTR. Different phases.

I don't know what makes transitions from phase to phase happen. Ok, reality happens and You Enter TRP. Then fuck a Lot becomes empty, then You want to be alone... And then You either go MGTOW or Open the door for some LTR if the chick is balanced. What avoids MGTOW and favors LTR or viceversa? Mmm... I think it depends on how much damaged You got before being TRP aware and how realistic are your expectations regarding women.

Pranavboi · 2022-02-06T07:47:01+00:00

You must experience abundance first then decide to settle down later.

MattyAnon · 2022-02-05T23:26:00+00:00

I got my shit together and suddenly all the single moms straight up say they need someone to be a man to her kids and provide, or I get the ones that have no kids but want you to spoil them with gifts and money

Single mothers always want provisioning, but if you're getting a lot of "pay for me" girls it is because either you are not attractive enough to fuck or because you give off a provider vibe.

I’ve tried with some beautiful women but the idea just nauseates me, it’s much work and energy that I could put into myself is how I feel. I don’t crave control of a relationship or women (Narcissism) because I just walk away if they don’t have a peaceful personality.

Don't aim for a relationship, aim for sex. Consider a relationship only with those you know you're sexually compatible with.

some women tell me I’m emotionally unavailable

"emotionally unavailable" does not preclude sex, it's fine. good even.

when I was willing to share emotions they didn’t respect me and enjoyed being pursued.

Exactly.

Which is why "emotionally unavailable" is just fine.

Do you think these are signs of someone that has transitioned into the redpill or am I just some narcissistic guy? I’m really unsure, I just needed to vent out my thoughts.

Actually neither.

Your piece reads as a beta who is RP aware, but not someone who is aware enough of female nature to turn it to their advantage. So you reject the provisioning option, but neither are you getting the hot alpha monkey-sex.

micromegas00 · 2022-02-06T01:55:10+00:00

You arent pedastalising. Keep it going.

ThrowAway640KB · 2022-02-06T01:57:34+00:00

I suddenly realize just how much commitment simply turns me off, so many women bring baggage into your situation like kids or a personality that hasn’t been given a reality check. I’ve tried with some beautiful women but the idea just nauseates me, it’s much work and energy that I could put into myself is how I feel.

I went from falling asleep sad that I may never find love my whole life to feeling lonely once a month and generally enjoy being alone, the idea of a woman being there fucking up that vibe with emotional mood swing bs is enough to be at peace with being alone.

It sounds like you have gone MGTOW. And the best kind of MGTOW - you just don’t want to be bothered by them, nothing more.

You don’t hate them, you don’t despise them, you just gain nothing of benefit from any association with them. So you just show your back to them and walk away.

KarmaKill23 · 2022-02-06T15:53:33+00:00

The average TRP follower is going to bullshit you because the lead is so well buried. Not your own fault just the nature of the beast.

“I just walk away if they don’t have a peaceful personality”.

That’s really the only sentence that matters in this post because…

During the years you spent improving yourself, western women were taught to have exactly NOT that: a peaceful personality.

There is nothing peaceful about the 32 yr old single mother or the jaded sugar baby. Even the perfect 24yr old 10’s are whores to Instagram or Onlyfans (which are one in the same in relation to you trying to bond with them).

TRP’s greatest flaw is while its spent years erecting these rules and ideas for men, women shifted their strategy as well.

In short: The women TRP promised you would get with these strategies left while you were learning them.

So no there is nothing wrong with you. You did transition to being a redpill man. You just feel shitty because the redpill man is now obsolete.

RedLantern- · 2022-02-05T23:27:19+00:00

Hate to shit on the parade here with the comment section looking a bit like r relationships with a blend of mgtow but getting chased & propositioned for beta bucks doesn’t make you a red pilled alpha.

It just makes you a red pill aware beta.

swizacidx · 2022-02-05T23:38:57+00:00

I see it as partly narcissist as it reminds me of my fathers attitude, just focused on himself no time for his kids or my mother, it’s definitely not a bad thing to strive for your goals and focus on your future but it’s also okay to accept that others have goals needs and struggles too. I feel like if I get too one sided in that bulldog mindset it can become toxic to overall life and interactions as life isn’t always easy. Hope my comment made sense lol, like saying women try to purposely upset you just means your meeting the wrong women or you think every women out there is raging to get a piece of your life (which as a result seems kinda narcy)

falecf4 · 2022-02-06T01:42:49+00:00

I just want to say that I appreciate that you took time to write this and I hope that every new TRP member reads this post! You got the message about improving yourself and not focusing on women. I bet you're a totally different person, and better, than you used to be. You are obviously in a place where you can be picky about the women you want in your life instead of the old you just hoping for basically any woman to accept you.

Most guys come here looking for tips to get chicks. "I did this thing. Am I alpha now bro?!" I really don't like the alpha/beta nomenclature especially since many young, impressionable guys read into it all the wrong way and think they can DO a few minimal things and be "alpha". Being "alpha" is a whole state of being and that is going to be different for every individual.

You sir became what/who you needed to become and, like any of us, the journey is never done. Congrats on making this far!

feraldwarf · 2022-02-06T07:11:56+00:00

You’re on the right track. The odds are drastically against you in finding a woman worth putting a ring on. This is the brutal reality of the situation. So naturally you feel as if you don’t want to commit. I feel the same. Find girls, emphasis on the plural, that you vibe with well enough to take to bed. Scratch the itch here and there as you focus on your personal goals.

adam-l · 2022-02-06T10:57:02+00:00

You haven't mentioned if you have friends. That's where your answers lay, not in women.

GayLubeOil · 2022-02-06T01:51:54+00:00

To answer your question a guy who posts on "feet pic" subreddits is a textbook woman fetishist and has not transitioned into Red Pill anything. You are a Beta male seeking approval from other beta males.

negdawin · 2022-02-06T00:44:06+00:00

I think something you're doing is attracting the wrong type of girls. There are plenty of feminine and non-gold digging women out there, you just need to find them.

Maybe it's something in the method you're using to find them, or your mindset, or something along those lines. You're giving out these vibes that are attracting the wrong types of women.

Congrats on all the hard work you've done, sounds like you're in a much better place now! Time for some adjustments that will make you ready for a healthy, synergistic relationship. The responsibility is yours, and always has been 💪

EntrepreneurAus · 2022-02-06T02:39:37+00:00

Congratulations.. you made it to the real men club. I felt like that years ago when i started my business. Now so busy with business and money that I honestly dont have time to waste with women.

curvedbymykind · 2022-02-06T03:47:52+00:00

You don’t know how much I relate to this haha. The woman I’m with now has been really good but sometimes gets over jealous and just kills my mood. Little things like this make me think I could just go back to a single lifestyle and have no stress, and just focus. But she is a good woman but I’m considering putting her aside and chasing my goals first, while having side plates who aren’t an emotional investment. It’s too early for you and I to find love I think.

Around what age are you op, if you don’t mind me asking

lonelyWalkAlone · 2022-02-06T08:59:07+00:00

I am just like you my man, everyday I see countless girls with attractive plastic bodies but unattractive personality/character. These girls are not dating material, they only attract rich folks to leech them off. Keep your standards high, especially in term of faithfulness, trust, love and respect, these characters must exist in her before you start considering a LTR with her, thankfully I already found one, and I'm sure there are lot women who have these characters in them.

ChrimsonChin988 · 2022-02-06T11:14:18+00:00

I think you're pretty spot on everything because it's a combination of all the points you mentioned.

Young men inherently have low value, our early-mid 30s is where we 'peak' on average in terms of SMV, whereas women peak 18-24.

Add to that you were pedestalizing women and it's basically game in terms of your ability to get women at that point.

Now years later, you've become more experienced (life experience is tremendously important for male SMV, whereas for women it barely matters), you've upped your grind etc etc. It all compounds, which is why you are experiencing this 'new' reality now.

Kyomeii · 2022-02-06T13:12:55+00:00

Sounds like you're just meeting shitty women. As others are pointing out, there are as many, if not more, mediocre women as there are mediocre men.

It may be rarer, but you can still meet women that stimulate you in ways other than sexually. It's fine if you don't get the same rush just from fucking random hoes, I've also found that gets old pretty fast.

You just need to be able to vet properly, which you already seem to be doing. You'll come along good women too if you learn to identify them.

Last year I met several amazing women, but I've also met several that had nothing to offer except for mediocre pussy. The latter ones, I just didn't bother after getting to know them. Kept the better ones as plates, and decided to LTR one of them last week, which actually came as a surprise because I didn't excpect much from her at first, but as I got to know her, I saw how good of a woman and a person she is.

It is actually ideal that you're feeling fine alone, that way you know that when you decide to get into a relationship, it won't be out of loneliness or desperation. When you do meet a worthy woman, you will want to be with her.

I know this all doesn't sound all that redpilled, but I'm feeling lovey dovey as fuck lately, so my words might be biased

five_eight · 2022-02-06T15:24:23+00:00

Great post, and comments. Thanks!

Silver-Discipline550 · 2022-02-06T19:05:41+00:00

I don't know how old are you but it reminds me of something Jordan Peterson said: "As women move towards their 30s the power relationship between men and women also starts to transform because there's almost nothing less valued than a young man, but that starts to change as men move towards their 30s if they're successful. Whereas there is almost nothing more valued than a young woman but that changes as women move towards their 30s." – Jordan Peterson

So yeah, I think that if you keep grinding, and focusing on yourself, one day things will get all together and you can firmly say that you won in life. The real question is: what will you do when that happens?

bootyannihilator · 2022-02-08T04:18:27+00:00

I kinda feel the same way sometimes. It just comes and goes intermittently. So, definitely saving this post

Title	Someone discuss this with me…
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Date	February 5, 2022 10:27 PM UTC (4 years ago)
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