You are either embracing pain to make your future self better, or avoiding pain to make your future self worse.

R1fle · 2015-03-24T14:14:23+00:00

I'm literally going to live homeless as of tonight for two weeks until my lease begins because the current place I'm at is full of self-destructive alcoholic drug addicts. I've been working longer hours on purpose just to avoid going back to the shit hole they offered to let me stay for free - which is doing far more harm than help.

There was a thread about this earlier this week. I'll be living in my car, sleeping in my office at work during weeknights(taking on extra responsibilities because I have the time) and sleeping with a plate over the weekends, I know a place I can get full meals for 7 dollars so I'll be eating there for the next 12 days (until I move in). Showering at the gym. And I'm doing laundry right before I leave tonight (last me the 12 days). I'll get some new Calvin Klein briefs at Walmart if things are getting a little chafey.

It's only 12 days, but I can't wait to just sever these ties already. My only regret is not doing this sooner.

Soriq · 2015-03-24T11:43:14+00:00

Tomorrow? It will always be tomorrow, until you die. Then they will bury you.

Great post. Culturally, that is our problem. We live as if we will life forever.

How arrogant of us to assume that there will be a tomorrow to do the things in our hearts that we want to do.

The men of the past were faced with death every day in a way we are completely sheltered from in modern society. From spartans to the vikings to the men of the wild west who challenged each other to duels, men were completely aware that they could die that very day. We have lost a healthy fear of death.

analrapeage · 2015-03-24T16:10:25+00:00

Got a quote a while back from an announcer at the NCAA Wrestling Champs: "There are two pains in this life: the pain of discipline and the pain of regret. Which one do you want?"

Been my background forever

Dethklokk · 2015-03-24T15:24:27+00:00

This post came at a good time. I have been improving myself for close to 9 months now but haven't approached at all. The reason for this is that I'm half way through my weight loss. I have 47 more lbs to go before I have abs. I've been lifting but without purpose. In 4 months I'm going out of the country for 2 weeks. I'm increasing my lifts for bulk. I'm lowering. My calorie consumptions. This is the last push; the downward slope of my mountain.

I use my weight as an excuse. I'm too fat still. My self esteem is still too low to cold approach. After July I will be ready. I have a timeline. I know I make it seem like I care too much about what other think but I don't. This is about my mentality, my self outlook. Thanks for the post. This and my new Arnold poster will motivate me to finish my goal.

iteal · 2015-03-24T18:15:51+00:00

"A warrior doesn't seek pain, but if pain comes, he uses it." - Dan Millman

GV19 · 2015-03-25T07:18:06+00:00

I didn't wanna go to Jiu Jitsu practice, I ended up going and it was damn worth it.

stpauley45 · 2015-03-24T17:12:36+00:00

The pain you speak of, from my experience is caused by NOT being awake to the fact that we literally exist inside the Matrix. We have to first wake up and become AWARE.

I had to stop talking/speaking and take the position of the observer...like Neo after he took the Red Pill experienced walking around while Morpheus explained what the Matrix was and is. A shift in consciousness is necessary. Without this shift, we try to "manage" things inside the Matrix and are not aware that we are still IN IT and attempting to fit things to suit ourselves. No, the opposite is True....I need to DO nothing....I need to BE in the Matrix and observe. I BE present in the moment as it is and observe. IF/WHEN I want to run a program in the matrix, I develop the program (meditation), write it down (make it real) and then run it (execute/take action). The Matrix will react to the new program. I simply need to let it run and observe. Pain is not present. Suffering is not present.

Fear falls away as I have no emotional attachment to the outcome but merely an observing eye to how the Matrix is reacting to the newly installed program. I do not change the program. Over time it becomes WHAT IS in the Matrix (exercise, meditation, work, living in alignment with my Principles). Fear is removed. Fear does not exist. I AM both IN and OF the Matrix. Calm, at ease. A part of. A spirit aware. Fear does not exist.

From this vantage point, this consciousness, everything you mentioned above that appears as pain and lack and suffering evaporates. From this level of consciousness, I can execute any program in the Matrix at will, provided I follow the rules of the Matrix. Fear leaves. Pain leaves. I return to BEING of my natural state of I AM.

smokingtransistor · 2015-03-24T15:48:10+00:00

Thank you man ! I always lived my life supporting bad pain and saying to myself that it was how it should be. But no more ! And every such post helps me a little more ! It's like morpheus telling neo to jump. No one will make the jump from first try, still you have to jum to learn

LookThroughRedEyes · 2015-03-24T22:20:50+00:00

Why did you only go to the gym twice last week? Right on.

VivaCheeseWhiz · 2015-03-24T22:43:03+00:00

I've been hardcore about eating clean lately, one cheat meal a week. I've been taking Krav Maga classes, in addition to a weekend Krav Maga retreat that is a total of 18 training hours from an Israeli instructor where we'll be learning hostage drills and other badass stuff. I'm recovering from the verge of mgtow depression and trying to reverse engineer attraction by at least being in better shape so that I don't have to "chase". My life is still far from the redpill ideal, but the allure of working out multiple times a week has almost completely replaced my love of the cannabis lifestyle. I've started incorporating Kettlebell swings, jump rope, farmer walks, and am working up to handstand push-ups. Thanks for this post, trp has motivated me in ways that mainstream bs has never been able to.

dronearmy · 2015-03-24T23:05:20+00:00

Thank you. I'm printing this shit out immediately when I get home.

CRUSHPUSSY_MARRYAMAN · 2015-03-25T06:47:59+00:00

"Life IS pain, princess. Anyone who says otherwise is selling something."

RealRational · 2015-03-24T13:40:21+00:00

Sometimes I'm avoiding pain now to save up the strength required to beat the obstacle in front of me. Great post, just expanding on the idea, not disagreeing. We all need a port in the storm sometimes. It's just that if you attempt to stay there too long you never leave. Or worse yet, you're thrown backwards.

Darkone06 · 2015-03-25T12:39:10+00:00

Tomorrow never comes until it's too late.

twolanterns · 2015-04-02T14:45:34+00:00

Hey man, why did you delete the post? It was really good!

Drenmar · 2015-03-25T09:37:25+00:00

I've been playing fucking Clicker Heroes for 4 hours straight now instead of reading stuff for uni. Thanks for this post, I needed it.

kevkos · 2015-03-24T20:39:37+00:00

Hmm. I like the general idea of the post, but the title isn't really accurate. Avoiding pain is healthy. Avoiding discomfort is I think what you mean. Quite different.

Title	You are either embracing pain to make your future self better, or avoiding pain to make your future self worse.
Author	confuseacatlmtd
Upvotes	412
Comments	36
Date	March 24, 2015 8:30 AM UTC (11 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/TheRedPill
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