Can a redpilled man be a leftist

poisedStygian · 2017-09-25T21:30:41+00:00

Rollo specifically says that he considers RP as a strategy independent of political identity, even bemoaning the recent alt-right conflation in his 3rd book. However, any power dynamic is inherently political if only on a micro-level. Personally, I am fiscally conservative and socially liberal.

WISE_TURD · 2017-09-25T17:48:05+00:00

Law 38: think as you like, but act as others

apply_truth · 2017-09-25T18:52:30+00:00

The red pill is a toolbox, you take what works, left or right doesn't matter.

Swallowing_the_Rpill · 2017-09-25T18:13:10+00:00

Maybe not so much in the US, but in other parts of the world the left has done a lot of good things to benefit society and improve living standards. Nowadays is hard to even define the Left or the Right, and both sides have quite a few retards on their sides. The left does have quite a few of them I agree.

I don't see why your masculinity is dependent on your political ideology. It sounds like a dick size contest. Wasn't TRP a toolbox instead of an ideology, cult, echo chamber...

kellykebab · 2017-09-25T18:19:52+00:00

I've met some relatively confident, socially charismatic guys who are pretty liberal.

I think how manly they are depends on the person. In a lot of these cases, these guys are funny, have a fair amount of social experience, and might even be reasonably competitive. However, in every case, these guys seem to have some self-defeating belief about themselves, men in general, or women. I can't say how they came to those beliefs, but they are usually there.

I think it's possible to believe that some kind of social safety net is good for society, even if you don't personally rely on it, but beyond that many liberal guys, no matter how outwardly charming, tend to believe some really emasculated, weird bullshit.

jefferson_ · 2017-09-25T19:17:28+00:00

I'm going to go against the grain here and say anything is possible. I subscribe to a center-left view on most issues, centrist on others, and center-right on a few. For example, I am for strong gun rights and believe modern-Feminism is a mental sickness but I still think we should invest money into transportation, science, healthcare, and education. I'm also deeply anti-religious, so that affects some things as well.

I never force my views on others though, and I am completely open to all views. If your argument is bulletproof enough, I'm more than willing to change things around and give things another look.

TRP has its steel truths and values yes, but one thing I've always taken from it is to have an open-mind. Hell, if I judged TRP at first and was close-minded about it I would probably mindlessly criticize it without even giving it a chance. But I was open-minded and found TRP to help me incredibly as a young man in his development.

Edit: spelling

_elgato · 2017-09-25T19:48:26+00:00

Well, thanks for the compliment.

I am a leftist, I believe in some socialized institutions like public roads, public transportation and public health. I am from Spain so some of the concepts don't bear much resemblance with the ones you have in America.

I believe in a monarchy-free state in which no man is literally above the law because he has been chosen by god (that is what appears in our Constitution, btw) and that is also a leftist idea here in Spain.

I am also pro-choice at the moment even though I acknowledge it is killing babies, however I think only some cases should be allowed like abortion in cases of rape or grave danger for the mother.

So bearing that in mind, even if your POV on the world and mine are similar our approches at how to fix it can be different.

PaperStreetVilla · 2017-09-25T20:04:06+00:00

Other than as a brand, can you even describe conservatism and liberalism with any eloquence?

Could you sum up the difference between progressives, liberals, libertarians, conservatives, and changes over the generation?

Otherwise, it's just this

Floaty_McBoatface · 2017-09-26T04:20:41+00:00

Yes, absolutely. The crazy feminist/gender-bender crowd has utterly confused people about what is meant by "left" and "right." NOT mutually exclusive.

Wrath_of_Trump · 2017-09-26T00:40:09+00:00

Yes, it's called Bill Clinton

Whisper · 2017-09-25T18:27:17+00:00

No. But he can pretend to be one for reasons of expediency.

RedPillFusion · 2017-09-25T18:09:57+00:00

When you take the foundational concepts of leftism and TRP to each's natural end, you find they are incompatible.

Yozki · 2017-09-25T20:10:39+00:00

Left != feminism, they just overlap more often

zndas92 · 2017-09-25T18:43:31+00:00

Define leftist. I'm a libertarian I believe in right wing politics but leftist economics to an extent. You can be a feminist per see as long as you accept trp is evolutionary and sociological truth not political and still use it to your advantage.

VasiliyZaitzev · 2017-09-25T22:47:04+00:00

Sure. A red pill man can be gay, too, but none for me, thanks, on either of those.

Marco1337 · 2017-09-25T19:27:30+00:00

Leftist how? By the modern numale definition no but I dont see why a centrist socdem couldn't.

Deep_freeze202 · 2017-09-25T23:35:22+00:00

Considering the is side of feminists and SJWs who label the red pill as misogyny, anti-woman, toxic masculinity, rape culture ect. I'm inclined to say no, perhaps you can pretend to be on the left if it gets you somewhere with women but personally I wouldn't pursue the women in that demographic for numerous reasons.

LeftAndRed · 2017-09-26T04:11:44+00:00

yes you can be left and red pilled

Bedtimeshine · 2017-09-26T07:53:40+00:00

Yes... I am pretty liberal. I think what the RP says about the desires and true social and sexual nature of women is spot on. What it says about feminism and a women in society is annoying garbage that should be ignored. Any man that complains about feminism or says "but if it was a woman doing such and such..." is a weak, limp dick, pussy. Say what you want about SJWs but even the hard core hairy armpit feminist still just wants to get fucked by the quarterback..

ReaperOfSouls_ · 2017-09-25T17:38:23+00:00

Nope.

Retspihi · 2017-09-25T17:44:00+00:00

No.

soulmysold · 2017-09-25T18:11:08+00:00

Most leftists men aren't men. They're very feminine, listen to feelings over facts. Have you ever met a successful leftist?

quicklogaccount · 2017-09-25T20:11:18+00:00

mmmm. I'm reactionary right in Brazil and when I compare to your regular American I end up falling in the liberal spectrum. That goes the other way if I'm thinking of Germans. Left and right vary a lot with time and space, don't bother a lot with that. Academics can't quite pinpoint the boundaries.

That said I suppose it can't effect a lot. Toy around with "the dictator's handbook", that's red pill politics.

oldslut · 2017-09-25T17:41:36+00:00

hahaha, a new oxymoron "Redpilled Leftest"

Kommanderdude · 2017-09-25T18:48:27+00:00

Bloody_Rayne · 2017-09-25T18:27:44+00:00

Yeah, I've been stunned to see many members of TRP who are supporting homosexuality, bestiality, pedophillia, polygamy and so on. Disappointing, wasn't expecting to find that kind of garbage here.

redaftrp · 2017-09-25T20:25:15+00:00

Can a fish use a bicycle? A fish accepts what is and doesn't try to be something unnatural.

IVIaskerade · 2017-09-25T20:01:25+00:00

No.

Then again, a properly red-pilled man doesn't really care about the political spectrum at all.

Title	Can a redpilled man be a leftist
Author	ThickDickWarrior89
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Date	September 25, 2017 5:37 PM UTC (8 years ago)
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