Has anyone internalizing the red pill experienced the tug of war between the blue pill and the red pill?

FereallyRed · 2019-01-28T21:48:11+00:00

Try straddling the fence and you get a picket up the ass.

Melanoma_man · 2019-01-29T00:12:02+00:00

I just came to the conclusion we are just animals. Very intelligent animals... for the most part.

It was religion who came up with monogamy to control hypergamy and men from killing each other over mating rights

AloofusMaximus · 2019-01-28T23:40:54+00:00

"Constant sex" is actually the reason MOST men enter into relationships, and likewise most men can tell you that's not actually a benefit.

mrmaldoror · 2019-01-28T22:25:26+00:00

IMO, TRP is mostly about just about having a backbone and not being a pushover. I don't really make a distinction between blue and red.

JordanRedfort · 2019-01-28T21:52:59+00:00

Yes, we all have that tension between us. Just one word of advice though:

Do NOT get married.

If you’re a high value man, women will come to you in droves. I’m not even kidding – the only problem you’ll have is spending too much of your time and energy on women. They will hit you up all hours of the day just waiting for a window to see you. They will offer to pay for everything, invite you over to their place, and guilt trip you every time you schedule something more important.

I’ve got a much higher lay count than you, but I’m currently in a LTR and getting laid consistently. Proof that you can have the best of both worlds.

You don’t have to marry the woman you’re dating, marriage is an EXTREMELY long commitment which most people don’t think about until they’re filing divorce papers and losing half of their hard earned cash.

Getting married and having consistent sex consumes just as much mental energy as hitting on girls at clubs. There’s a good chance you’re still young and you want to a fuck a lot of diverse women, so maybe it’s worth holding off for a couple more years until you make your mind up.

For the time being, focus on your career. You’ll lose money chasing women, but you’ll never lose women chasing money.

ThinSpiritual · 2019-01-29T02:25:46+00:00

It really takes a long time to internalize it.. For me it has been nearly 2 years now. The tug of war feeling you're getting is from being disconnected with all the values that supported you all your life, and being out of rapport with a formerly "harmonious" relationship system is going to feel lonely.

I'm close to being fully unplugged now after developing a brief oneitis for a girl I met in a different city last year. It was such a great feeling to feel those butterflies in my stomach (I haven't felt it for maybe ~3 years already). Love at first sight. Fuck it felt great, I really wanted to indulge more in those feelings. And then it lasted only a week and I can't unsee all the red flags that emerged later on -- AWALT once again. I ghosted her shortly after and went on to bang 3 news chicks (abundance really helps, when I'm in doubt I take a first step to walk the path, and everything else will follow).

Last week she called me (after a 2-week silence period) and asked me why I "gave up" on her. Holy shit, the first reaction in my mind was "what kind of sick games are you playing to manipulate me?" since, according to her narrative, I'm the one to be blamed; didn't she ghost me for 2 weeks too lol? Needless to say a hard next ensued. I didn't feel a single bit or anger or sadness this time, I felt liberated. And I'm truly happy the BP in me didn't make a single noise this time.

RedSkeller · 2019-01-29T02:24:57+00:00

Either be the guy getting tugged off or the guy tugging off over his ex.

Lambdal7 · 2019-01-29T10:25:13+00:00

There is no red pill and blue pill. There is no dark side or light side.

There is no tug of war.

Both have their merits and both have their drawbacks and if you only use one or the other you’re only half a man.

Don’t blindly subscribe to an ideology, learn their merits and drawbacks and think for yourself.

imtheoneimmortal · 2019-01-28T23:46:34+00:00

where monogamous=constant sex?

DiskKiller2 · 2019-01-29T07:19:43+00:00

Read Hesse’s Steppenwolf... it’s about how we’re all actually several different persons instead of a coherent one. There’s the wolf in all of us. And the nice, civilized gentleman too. Additionally, the ‘Steppenwolf’ in the book is a cool older guy who bangs younger broads :)

NextForever · 2019-01-29T06:36:12+00:00

You are overthinking..

Plenty of good souls out there, deep breaths.

Moldy_Gecko · 2019-01-29T12:04:45+00:00

You failed in one part. You said "it's so easy to lie just for sex". Yet you see how open those girls are about sex at work (technically sexual harassment this day and age). Why are you lying for sex. Tell women what you want, it's that simple. Don't say something like "I just want sex", but say what I usually do which is something like "I'm just looking to have fun" or "I'm not looking for anything serious". Granted, there is some manipulation with TRP, but that's just game. You're using women's innate desires to desire you. I don't find that to be negative.

The struggle I deal with between RP and BP is that after you're fully RP aware, you don't see women the same. It's very difficult to develop serious relations or "fall in love". So I really only recommend RP to people that are incel. If you just need help getting girls because you're lacking game, learning game from the PUA reddit or some other gaming place (like the book, "The game").

Whatever you do, don't lie. That's a Nice Guy think. I recommend reading "Nice Guys Finish Last."

TheRedPillMonkey · 2019-01-29T13:20:45+00:00

I’m finding myself with an internal struggle: to date women purely for sex vs. go for a relationship.

This is where you've missed it and all I need to read.

Men are the gatekeeps or commitment. Women are the gatekeepers of sex.

What do you think when a women "goes for sex"? When she "wants to get some dick tonight"?

Slut, right? You get a deep down negative emotion because she's not gatekeeping at all.

So how do you think women feel when a man "goes for commitment"? Fucking slut!

Not only that, but looking for commitment is the fastest way to not find it, become beta bux, or hamster the wrong girl into you life.

Spin plates. Focus on that. Eventually, some sweet girl will let you dick her down and she'll be different. She'll make you breakfast. Clean your place, and be pleasant to be around. She'll be working to earn your commitment.

Then you can start to vet her and decide if she's worth giving up the other plates. If yes, welcome to a decent LTR.

So go spin plates.

chazthundergut · 2019-01-29T20:05:49+00:00

You are way too inexperienced to even consider a relationship right now

Neil1398 · 2019-01-29T03:16:03+00:00

I’m weird in a sense that before I found the red pill I was i didn’t want relationships but when I went out and talked to girls(cold approach) I acted as if I did.

Society made me believe that I was being a dog and it wasn’t cool to do that so I suppressed my desires and would eventually stop talking to the girls because the whole thing felt meaningless lol. Positive masculinity is what I’m trying to adapt.

So the switch was an easy flip in my mind in that aspect lol. I’ve been alone for years and have had sex but not consistently.

To answer your question though I do still hold up on blue pill principles when I see a quiet cool chick in my college class and all of a sudden I start thinking oh she’s quality. However after reading the rational male my mind always corrects itself and says there’s no quality spin enough plates to know what you want.

Gotta work on it though.

Dizmal · 2019-01-29T06:31:41+00:00

How about this strategy ?

Mentor a sexy kitten on the side like a sugar daddy, aim for only a single plating but really it's mainly to help them and give guidance as they come about their prime sexual/physical phase. In the meanwhile carry on plating the usual thirsty/keen girls.. when you want to switch things up, use loyal and confused kitten as a prop to lure in slightly older and envious competitors/friends.

Now you get to be a Purple pill? Hows that

HeadingRed · 2019-02-02T13:26:33+00:00

Here's one of the reasons why you struggle with RP/BP conflicts- there are BP truths. There will be a happily married couple. There will be a "nice girl" that treats her man right. There will be a woman that is sexually attracted to a man who rescues puppies.

Now you tell yourself with your new RP wisdom your next LTR will be totally different and you won't make the same mistakes. So you can get constant sex and not get your balls or your heart broken.

Good news is you're having the struggle so you're aware. Are you really looking for a LTR for constant sex or constant validation? Guys without a woman are often seen as losers - by others and themselves.

How much of the want to be in a LTR comes from how you want others to see you?

resnine · 2019-02-08T17:10:23+00:00

Women will never pedestal penis because it's the most abundant thing in the universe. We men pedestal pussy because we believe the lie that women are hard to get, that pussy is this unreachable thing and we must climb a mountain to get access to it... bp programming indeed.

Title	Has anyone internalizing the red pill experienced the tug of war between the blue pill and the red pill?
Author	lerossignol77
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Comments	42
Date	January 28, 2019 9:43 PM UTC (7 years ago)
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