Whats with all this blackpill crap?

Protocol_Apollo · 2020-01-20T22:11:25+00:00

It’s what happens when the incels sub gets deleted- they have to bleed into the next best subreddits.

Unfortunately they don’t understand that red pill is almost the antithesis of black pill: red pill takes extreme ownership of what’s happening to them (perhaps over some things that can’t even be controlled) whereas black pill takes the “woe is me” approach.

SirKolbath · 2020-01-20T22:07:20+00:00

People with only a marginal at best understanding of TRP love to comment on it. Tune them out or call them out. There really isn't a third way.

HurricaneHugues · 2020-01-20T22:24:17+00:00

You clowns come up with all sorts of excuses to not work out.

vullnet123 · 2020-01-20T22:26:24+00:00

Easier to whine then to put effort to improve.

saltyfiredude · 2020-01-20T22:15:43+00:00

Easier to make excuses and whine than to shape up and compete

vondoom900 · 2020-01-20T22:16:47+00:00

Got to be honest. Sometimes I read this shit and it makes me sad. Like if I was in my teens early 20s and had all the statistical data thrown at me it would be hard to forgo a depression - I'm assuming blackpill is like you give up entirely?

However other than self development I don't know what the solution is.

MrBreitling · 2020-01-20T23:01:28+00:00

Because the vast majority of people are doing NOTHING when it comes to maximising their attractiveness. I would say that it's a lack of doing and too much reading, but what is obvious in this subreddit, as /u/SirKolbath said - that people at best seem to have a marginal understanding of TRP.

I would wager that the majority just read some of the material, think they have some sort of 'Nintendo Power' guide to the female psyche and if they do Process X and Spreadsheet Y that girl will give them Z which is porn star sex with dripping pussy.

It's just not the fucking case. Women are attracted to high value men. If you are failing it is because you are not high value. The value comes from multiple facets - not just your face. You need to exude status, drive, power. Why do they love men with good bodies? Well it's not just that they like feeling it - it's because of WHAT it represents in your personality.

I could think of a handful of key variables that are important to most women. Some women place more value on some attributes more than others, often depending on their own upbringing, status, age, and place in life.

On top of that, men with experience learn that while there are golden rules that apply to all women - your mileage may vary with individual women. You have to massage the delivery of what you're doing to suit certain chicks. I've had women before that I could be brash and abrupt with, and basically treat like shit and they would love it. As soon as I showed any compassion they lost interest. Other girls have been so timid that if I even raised my voice they would be out the door - but both would follow me like a lost puppy when I gave them what they needed.

Basically it boils down to both a crab in pot situation, as well as people being inherently lazy. It's easy to just sit on the fucking sidelines and talk shit, but actually doing the work is a little harder.

What does that mean? They don't even read the materials - let alone live the life.

Be Attractive, Don't be Unattractive.

A man with experience is NOT AT THE SCRUTINY of a man with opinions.

Do the fucking work, or remain a sexless piece of amphibian shit

There are no cheat codes.

redvelvet_oreo · 2020-01-21T02:12:43+00:00

Oh so that’s what’s been going on lately. I commented on a post recently about the benefits of cold approaching and getting away from online dating apps. I currently plated a model which I didn’t really know she was a legit model untill her social media popped up on my IG. I’m short and thus the reason why I was explaining how cold approaching and social circle game work.

A few kids in the comments demanded proof or else my advice is “not valid” lol.

OK I get it. It’s the internet and how can a short guy fuck a model?

I check their post history and none of them seem to read red pill and only post pics on rate me and only believe guys who are 9s and 10s are the only ones that can get laid. One dude was actually good looking but based on his profile I can tell he is a soy faggot. The other dude is 100 pounds.. I remember reading TRP a few years ago and just going out and trying it and changed my life. I swear this new wave of young people are fucking retarded.

Infernir · 2020-01-21T03:14:51+00:00

Mediocrity and degeneracy are all most blue pill or incel guys are used to. Saying you have to genetically be a 9/10 or 10/10 person to follow TRP makes it easy, provides an escape because following TRP is more difficult than anything they've been asked to do in their entire lives.

In context, the black pill philosophy makes no sense whatsoever. While the red pill philosophy makes perfect sense. For all of history, only females have had beauty standards. Men have always had a "threshold" though... but after you pass that threshold physical attractiveness and looks... have heavy heavy diminishing returns and don't matter much. Behavior is everything.

People always have excuses for not doing difficult things in life. If its going to the gym they will be like "Well I can't i'm too lazy... or "Well i'll start doing that some day!"

Or if it's eating healthy or taking their family on vacation "Oh yeah okay sure we will do that next year" "oH OK yeah sure we will start doing that" yet they never do anything and always have excuses.

If it's talking to a cute girl or starting a business? "Oh man I'd definitely do that but sadly i am not intelligent enough i am not funny enough i am not sexy enough i am not blah blah blah retarded illogical pointless excuses excuses excuses" The only shit that matters is getting shit done, everything else means nothing but wasted time & self pity bullshit.

Remember that elliot rodger guy? He was sexy as fuck physically ... but because of his mental frame, his attitude, his behavior & treatment around women... stop fucking trolling me fuck off you dumb shits of course women wouldn't want to fuck him.

Also, fine let's entertain the black pill beliefs and say physical appearance is everything... hint hint. the grass is always greener on the other side.

Everyone is beautiful in their own way... the truly beautiful thing for men though is confidence, high self esteem dominance. People will always admire other's beauty but never their own, this is why women obsess about their appearance so much because THEY ADMIRE OTHER PEOPLES. You're not a women, so stop acting so feminine and retarded like one.

The blackpill fails because it plays & operates on feminine thinking & mindsets, to focus entirely o appearance to attract mates, THIS IS FEMALES MAIN AND ONLY STRATEGY... and has been for all of mankind. Do you see how messed up it is now? To adopt a female's main strategy and belief system to your own? That will kill yourself as a man. Imitation is already suicide when it comes to other dudes since you aren't them, but now people want to be like females lol.

A women can appreciate beauty in any man even 1 or 2 below 5/10 physical attractiveness... as long as that man is alpha.

The blackpill philosophy is a side effect of the real, serious, and far far more graver & depressing problem of men in 2020 they've lost a lot of masculinity from men in the past, testosterone, and become more feminine

RPNorvell · 2020-01-20T23:03:27+00:00

Report it or username page me. I have a very short fuse when it comes to guys who refuse to get out of their own way.

There will always be those who realize they can actually do something to improve, and you have to give a little time for the unplugging.

Unfortunately it's very easy to distinguish the difference.

Filmguy000 · 2020-01-21T04:18:58+00:00

The black pill does have some truths. I've been lurking in the red pill sub for over 5 years now. And I have done alot of reading and practicing. I had some moderate success with women since but nothing to cry home about. I am the below average, 5'6 dude that incels say can't get laid. Sure, its not impossible. But being out in the world and seeing how it works, a red pilled ugly dude will still have far less opportunities than a naturally good looking dude with not-so-great game. It's just how it is imo.

6paths_luds · 2020-01-20T23:48:46+00:00

They be like « Height>face ». « Based », or whatever bullshit

Foolishoe · 2020-01-21T01:54:01+00:00

Report it.

PatrickIIDX · 2020-01-21T01:15:35+00:00

The black pill is bullshit. Work on your social aspects and looks the best you can... and I mean give it your best. At least one girl will show attraction to you.

SavorThePill · 2020-01-21T01:13:40+00:00

I took the red pill over two years ago. I've immersed myself in the tenets and ethos faithfully. It changed my life for the better in many ways as I've stayed on the road of focused self-development ever since.

However, I exposed myself to the black pill a couple months ago and I still can't fully shake it. Just like how you can see the truth in the red pill, one can see truth in the black pill as well. Yes, just as the red pill typically elicits an anger phase, so does the black pill. The latter of which is so strong in fact that we've all seen how distraught some black pills and incels become. I can tell you from personal experience that the black pill can really fuck with you, even if you're entrenched in red pill philosophy.

I'm not advocating for the black pill. I'm simply saying that as an ideology analogous to the red pill, it certainly has legs to stand on. If the black pill didn't contain some compelling theory, then it wouldn't have the following that it does. Thus the black pill has been spreading. Hell, it would be negligent to ignore that even blue or purple pill can seem reasonable. Again, few people would subscribe to any of that if it clearly seemed like a load of shit.

We say they're stupid...they say we're stupid. It's all tantamount to politics: the debate never ends.

I'll continue to take TRP as the gospel. After all, TRP has benefited me in the long-run. Still, I wouldn't deny that most guys won't get the sort of attention as one who looks like a Brad Pitt doppelganger. As an admonition to anyone that reads this: if you haven't already, don't take the black pill--it will only hold you back. Trust me.

GandMeChattri · 2020-01-21T06:20:52+00:00

The only solution is mods gotta work harder and ban all the incel/cuck posters unfortunately.

uchihaitachi1237 · 2020-01-21T11:50:17+00:00

Atleast the black pill doesn't say "if she cheated on me it's my fault" like the blue pill. I don't know what they have against self improvement though which is the emphasis of red pill

Sionnach1776 · 2020-01-21T15:58:17+00:00

I say welcome the incels.

Call me a sentimental pussy if you want, but it kills me that there are as many men as there are that are miserable, lonely, pathetic and weak, on the cusp of suicide. Incels and incel language is what guys look like right before they decide "fuck it" and off themselves.

For a lot of these guys, TRP is probably the only path they can take that will lead them out of the depths of whiny misery that most of them are currently in. A path of self-ownership, responsibility, strength, and freedom. The women, that's just a side-effect and a bonus.

The black pill crap is easy to refute. Let em in. They can't call us feminists if nothing else - we have a pretty solid chance of turning these kids around.

muricanwerewolf1 · 2020-01-21T03:51:19+00:00

You can tell because they start asking questions about face gains and “facemaxxing” lol

AegonTheC0nqueror · 2020-01-21T03:57:49+00:00

Some of the most toxic subcategories of this blackpill I've seen are the race pill. I won't lie though, when they throw so many statistics and real life examples at you, it's easy to get bogged down or even depressed by the evidence. It's best to do your own thing though, as everything can potentially be anecdotal.

JSuma · 2020-01-21T04:08:01+00:00

Blackpill seems to acknowledge the uncontrollable and rationalize that theres no point in even trying because the obstacle is too great. In reality, incels just wont take ownership and maximize the things within their control like fitness, diet, headspace, values, hobbies, game, etc. Working on things within our control is enough to get laid, easily. If the things out of your control keep you up at night then pick a god to pray to, thats what religion is for.

liquorbaron · 2020-01-21T08:36:12+00:00

Some of it goes too far but there's redpill in it. IF you look like Quasimodo that got set on fire then you're going to have issues with attracting women no matter how much lifting you do vs Chad male model Thundercock. All it is is acknowledging that.

CasualPlay3r · 2020-01-21T16:51:56+00:00

as a pretty boy i can tell you that yes, looks catch initial attention but if you are not a man, they wont get you far with women

throwawaybpdnpd · 2020-01-21T16:54:42+00:00

Blackpill is a “phase” that most of us go through before becoming redpilled...

It’s basically just denial/hatred before acceptance

The weaker ones will get sucked into it while the stronger ones will move on to take advantage of the RP knowledge/facts

WonderfulPipe · 2020-01-21T17:18:38+00:00

I'm from Mexico, and once in the bus station I saw a short, skinny, ugly dude, with a tall hot blonde by his arm. Blondes are in no way common here. He wasn't attractive, neither had money because we were in the bus station.

That was a very redpill moment.

HillaryLostTheEC · 2020-01-21T02:34:40+00:00

I don't belive that one bit, it's your vibe that gets girls. I've seen guys who aren't the best looking but have good looking girls by their sides and have good social skills.

Keletirios · 2020-01-21T05:04:26+00:00

I don't get why everyone hates blackpill. You can be blackpill and work at yourself.

Blackpill is the objective truth of the world, redpill is the action plan you use to pull yourself back from the brink. It's not even like they contradict each other.

jenovajunkie · 2020-01-21T07:49:40+00:00

Blackpill Incels are those guys who don't have access to what these "Red Pilled" men have. Sure you can say "we take responsibility for our actions", but sometimes that's not enough. Women still ostracize you,

Some men don't have avenues to express their frustration, or they are just surrounded by dumb fucking people whom exasperate the issues they have. Black Pilled are just in a really vulnerable and bad place. and this narcissistic society doesn't care. Likely, blackballed people see the world as really unfair to them, specifically.

Man, it's just Inceldom on steroids. It's incels who repeatedly get their heartbroken, shamed, ostracized, by both "Stacy's" and "Chad's", but even more than that, maybe a chunk of society as well, they receive no compassion, and the pain turns into hate.

Very few will commit murders, although in the US there has been a number of school shootings, and although not related to incels, specifically blackballed incels, all you have to do is study what some of these kids are taught, and how they are treated. Then maybe you can understand how someone goes from being made fun of and called an Intel, to eventually being one, then blackballing themselves.

Think of it, TRP is like "fight club" for males right? Imagine how these immature boys talk down to other immature boys, who are hurting, they have low self esteem, people don't like them, girls treat them like shit, don't want to talk to or be with them. Then these boys who are getting made fun of from all avenues, don't have the right resources or influences around them, most of you would crumble.

Onein1024th · 2020-01-21T14:40:55+00:00

mods should add a ban on blackpill to the sub rules

I've had a few arguments with incels on here who want to wallow in their own self-induced hopelessness because of [ugly/short/stupid reason]. They only argue back about how hopeless they are. Now I downvote and move on, not worth helping someone who doesn't want help.

Dboy2233 · 2020-01-20T23:10:52+00:00

If your physically un attractive and getting laid your beta bucks this is sidebar 101. Women fuck slobs because those slobs pay for their dinner and buy them shit.

volvostupidshit · 2020-01-21T01:09:57+00:00

Yes, I can feel that as well. They're slowly poisoning this sub with their incel shots. Next thing we know this sub's topics will only revolve around looks looks looks.

Nolatmain · 2020-01-21T13:28:07+00:00

Let's try not to become fanatics of any ideology. I think they both have some truth and some bullshit to them.

It's pathetic to not try to improve yourself just because you have an ugly face and a short frame. That's for sure. You will never generate the same attraction as chad, but you can definitely be more attractive than your current self. Also, the belief that being tall it's what matters the most is pure bullshit, I'm 6'' 2' and get my height mentioned/complimented quite frecuently, I DO get laid but most of the above HB6's look at me with disgust because of my below average face.

HOWEVER, what makes you think that just being socially desirable and lifting is enough? There are guys doing just that but also having an 8 face and a broad body frame. Denying that looks play a huge role is delusional. Most of the time she already decided if she's gonna fuck you before you can even say a word, thats why a looks-based dating app like Tinder was so succesful.

Would you date a fat HB2 with crooked teeth, somehow with no tits or ass, just because she's VERY fun to be around and VERY femenine? Right. They are not stupid either so don't fool yourself and be realistic with your expectations.

EDIT: I see the same argument all over the coments: "I see ugly guys get laid all the time".

The tricky part is that that ugly guy would have a harder time retaining a hot chick and being the one calling the shots in the relationship. Eventually the infatuation will be gone and the ugly guy she's dating will still be there. She WILL get resentful if she thinks she can do better. She will start to get bitchy until they break up or just cheat on him.

uchihaitachi1237 · 2020-01-21T11:48:52+00:00

Still prefer the black pill to the blue pilled cucks though

RealHedgeFund · 2020-01-21T10:45:07+00:00

Why crap?

Blackpill is what helped me get laid not red pill.

Once I improved my looks it was a whole different ball game.

Title	Whats with all this blackpill crap?
Author	themangu6
Upvotes	172
Comments	152
Date	January 20, 2020 10:05 PM UTC (6 years ago)
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Be Attractive, Don't be Unattractive.

A man with experience is NOT AT THE SCRUTINY of a man with opinions.

Do the fucking work, or remain a sexless piece of amphibian shit

There are no cheat codes.