24M Beginner

ghrinz · 2018-02-02T19:41:11+00:00

I would recommend reading how to win friends, and influence people by Dale Carnegie. This should get you thinking about your social skills.

dohn_joeb · 2018-02-02T21:51:56+00:00

Go talk to girls, get rejected. Think about what went wrong. After a while talking to a girl won't seem so painful and you'll forget that you even had to think about what to say before.

2018-02-02T19:12:58+00:00

Sounds like you have no outer game. Focus on finding knowledge on that.

I don't know how it all goes down, like what do you talk about with a girl, how to keep her attention, how do you ask her out (what do you say), how does that lead to kissing and eventually sex and maybe a relationship or more.

All the problems listed are solved by outer game and learning the structure of game.

2018-02-02T21:53:30+00:00

I'm a late bloomer and it's bugging me :(

Don't worry about it. You're starting at about when I started. If you work at it, it will get better. It's like any skill at first you suck. You suck bad. But if you're willing to learn from your mistakes and stick with it you'll progress fast.

My advice is to learn to entertain yourself with it. Don't have anything to say then ask something you think would be fun/funny to know. If you bomb, then you know what doesn't work. If you embarrass yourself then, who cares. There's literally 4 billion other women on the planet you can talk to. Also people won't remember what you said in a couple days anyways.

Good luck.

ImJustSo · 2018-02-02T22:33:39+00:00

Check the sticky on the sub. You're really unfamiliar with...everything here.

2018-02-02T23:52:39+00:00

YouTube "coach Corey Wayne"

You'll thank me.

I'm a late bloomer. I started 1 month into being 29. The things I've done since I started down this path would make your head spin. Prior to this past year I just had 2 awkward 1 night stands.

tjger · 2018-02-02T20:29:13+00:00

I would highly recommend reading Models by Mark Manson so that you have a solid inner game foundation.

Aghayden · 2018-02-03T03:30:37+00:00

Reading books is cool, but the most important thing is that you get out there and start approaching women and learn from your experiences.

Read books and watch videos as supplements to going out, but not as a substitute. Frankly, most people read a bunch of stuff, but never go out, it's just a form of procrastination.

Go to clubs/your college campus/or even a mall and start practicing approaching women, no reason to wait. It'll probably be anxiety provoking and somewhat awkward at first, but that's just part of the process- and no matter how many books you read, it's still going to be hard to start and actually learn game in real life.

a_nus · 2018-02-03T00:47:03+00:00

If your social skills overall are terrible, I would focus on improving that overall first, without necessarily focusing too much on romance. If you improve your social skills and awareness, the rest will come much, much easier, and it might even happen completely organically.

Diving head into "game" when you're socially inept is a recipe for disaster.

PotLimitOmaha · 2018-02-03T03:16:35+00:00

My advice is dont put to much pressure on yourself. Everyone starting out goes through the same difficulties. Id also say try not to study too much as I think it can sometimes hurt a beginner as it might cause you to over think stuff and act less natural. Find what instructors/YouTube channels that resonate with you the most that you'll feel comfortable implanting their techniques into your game(inner and outer).

In one of your replies I saw you mention you got rejected 7 times in the past week. It could definitely be the environment you're approaching in. I get rejected the least (night game) when I approach a girl/group that's sitting down at a table/chilling at the bar or if she's in line or waiting to get in a club or bar. If they just got their drinks and are leaving the bar or on their way to bathroom and I try to talk to them in passing or if they're on the dance floor with their friends I have a much higher chance of rejection. That doesn't mean I avoid approaching in those situations. I can't always wait for the "right time" to approach. An important begginer mistake that Todd V mentions is when you approach a girl, or anyone really, expect the experience to be positive. If you approach a girl and before you say anything to her you're think "Oh god here comes another ice cold rejection" you'll probably get rejected. Think positive when you approach.

Just remember everyone starts somewhere and people worse off and older than you have achieved their goals with self help and seduction. Best of luck!

2018-02-03T03:19:45+00:00

I would recommend enjoying life, finding interesting hobbies, and talk to people (including women) on occasion... just to get to know them. People really enjoy it when someone else is interested in what's going on in their lives and people also really enjoy being around people who enjoy life.

It's pretty normal to project negative feelings onto other people so instead try to give them the benefit of the doubt and try not to beat yourself up about not having a plethora of experience with women. We all take different paths at different speeds and in the end, it's not about the destination but the journey.

Hope this helps!

sneakpeekbot · 2018-02-03T04:15:05+00:00

Try r/anxiety. Meditation, talk therapy. Looks like you have anxiety in general and not only related to women

Leionart · 2018-02-02T19:38:34+00:00

Make sure to get pickup info ONLY from reliable sources.

https://web.archive.org/web/20040712014919/http://www.fastseduction.com:80/guide/

Here is a link to the original alt.seduction.fast forum

Good luck

drogean2 · 2018-02-03T01:59:34+00:00

Don't sweat it. It took me 3 years to get really good from total noob. You'll get there!!! Just gotta practice and go your own pace. I did it using stuff from www.rsdnation.com

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