26 yo virgin. I’ve made progress but still don’t feel like women are attracted to me. What should I focus on improving?

YeetroyJenkins · 2019-07-21T19:31:11+00:00

Trying to figure out why women don't like you is like trying to create a website with HTML. If you make a mistake, they're not going to tell what you're doing wrong, you're expected to figure it out on your own. Which is often frustrating when you have no idea what the problem is, let alone fix it. If you come off to a girl as a desperate creepy weirdo, it's not like the woman is going to say to you "I don't like you because you're a desperate creepy weirdo.", she will probably just reject you without giving any reason and now you're in the dark because you have no idea what you're doing wrong.

Why don't you ask a couple of friends you know in real life why they think women are not attracted to you, maybe if you have some female friends ask them too. Since nobody here knows who you are or what you look like, we can't exactly tell you why you're unsuccessful, but maybe your friends could. Some of them will probably give you dud advice like "I don't know bro, just keep trying." But maybe one of them will actually give decent advice.

moontripper1246 · 2019-07-21T19:00:44+00:00

> I’ve actually done alright with girls that don’t really know me all that well ... but the ones that know me don’t seem to view me in a “potential partner” sort of way.

Sorry that's just how that works. Its exceptionally hard to change a woman's impression of you, especially because your coming from such a friend situation. You'll keep finding that meeting new women is going to be easier and better for you. I wouldn't worry about it so much and just focus on improving, you're still pretty new so there's more interesting things for you to focus on that don't revolve around your office reputation.

Which brings me to the timeless classic, don't shit where you eat.

WeirdSmartKid · 2019-07-21T20:42:32+00:00

Start go clubbing alone. That way you are forced to be non-neddy. I’ve always been bad with women and considered my face unattractive, but I’m 6” and fit. Anyways, after going clubbing alone on ecstacy a couple of times, which basically gives you the power of extreme non-neediness without any effort for a few hours, I realized that I like to dance, and that I could dance with the hottest girls and give them a good time without expecting anything in return.

Now I’ve started going to a local club regularly. I’ve been there three times so far and every time I have managed to dance sexually with hot girls, one time I kissed a hot girl, and last time a decent looking girl, not really my type though, practically threw herself at me and started kissing me, and it turned really sexual. Last time, I also started dancing sexually with this 10, like the hottest girl in the club at the time, but her guy friends felt threatened or something and ended up physically pushing me away.

Point is, going clubbing alone is gonna be really uncomfortable at first and you’re really vulnerable, but if you keep doing it it builds confidence like crazy, at least for me.

smoothmax · 2019-07-22T02:08:34+00:00

If you made out with a girl already, that you just met, you're doing pretty good. No reason to give up or to think that it's never going to happen.

Inner game: if you haven't already, check out the books "No More Mr. Nice Guy" and "The Six Pillars of Self Esteem". Those plus "The Rational Male" will cover your inner game.

For outer game keep doing what you're doing, but you should still check out PUA videos and articles and try some of the small, easy things they teach.

There are too many PUAs with "product" out there to check out all of them so use your own instinct and get advice from the guys that seem intelligent and mellow. If you learn from guys with a cool vibe and listen to their infields several times then it will rub off on you naturally. Not for their exact lines necessarily but for their pauses, the way they smile, the way they listen, and the way they move things along. You can even break down their infields like this:

OPENER: Direct ("I thought you look cute") or Indirect ("Where is the nearest Starbucks")

BODY LANGUAGE/POSITION: directly facing or sideways/45 degrees. Standing or sitting

DIALOG: How much listening versus talking

POSITIVITY: how many compliments, negs ("You don't look like a lawyer"), or assumptions ("you look like you're very busy")

SHIT TESTS: how were they handled (boyfriend, too busy, I don't know you)

KINO: none, light touch (where), hug, handshake, kiss ...

CLOSE: blowout, number close, insta-date

This might seem excessive but unless you're a really quick, instinctive learner and you're making progress in giant steps every week, why not put in the effort? Better than wasting time watching Netflix.

Keeping a log of your interactions with women is very useful. Record things like place, time, HB rating (1 to 10), what you said, what she said, what the vibe was like, if your jokes fell flat, eye contact (furtive, mellow, or laser), were your hygiene, hair, clothes, scent on point, how you felt during and afterwards, and how she felt and acted (body language, IOIs, etc.). After each entry, add a section "SHOULD HAVE", or "NEXT TIME" where you list the things that you should have done. My entries over the last couple of years have stuff like, "Clean shirt, shave and nice aftershave next time" ... "Remember that everything she does is cute" ... "Try a sly compliment next time" ... "Smile when you see her"

quickjump · 2019-07-21T19:18:08+00:00

All the game in the world is useless if you don't know how to carry yourself. Read "how to be a 3% man". Read it 10 times.

WIA20XX · 2019-07-21T20:44:46+00:00

What happened with the previous advice?

Did you implement it?

What problems did you run into?

ralf_ · 2019-07-22T03:45:20+00:00

I’m currently working in an environment with a lot of women my age but the only ones that I think are interested in me are ones that I am not interested in, largely due to clashing personalities.

Do you search for a soulmate to marry or for a woman to lose your virginity?

paulchiefsquad · 2019-07-22T07:43:59+00:00

You need to understand that you can't get all the girls. 90% or more of girls your age doesn't even think once of dating with you, but that's for almost everyone.

It's not your personality, your "game" or something like that. You can just start talking to her and see if she is interested, if not it's pretty unlikely she will change idea so go next

2019-07-22T00:20:05+00:00

It’s probably not worth it and your life won’t be much better if you’re not a virgin. Maybe focus on other things that might matter more. There’s always monk mode.

jskxb · 2019-07-21T18:31:59+00:00

All its about: 1.looks 2 status 3. Money You have to be at least good in one of these traits and don't act needy. That's enough for anyone

NastyMonkeyKing · 2019-07-21T20:57:03+00:00

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Title	26 yo virgin. I’ve made progress but still don’t feel like women are attracted to me. What should I focus on improving?
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Date	July 21, 2019 6:20 PM UTC (7 years ago)
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