3 key points to improve

asad16 · 2012-01-03T18:11:25+00:00

I just can't take what women say they want to heart. It's just that they don't know how their emotions work. If they did, they would be running PUA and all seduction communities. However, I do agree confidence is a huge factor in attraction but falling in love within two minutes? I'm not so sure about that.

ethguardian · 2012-01-03T18:03:06+00:00

I don't know if I believe that thing about falling in love within 2 minutes. You can find someone attractive after two minutes, but you can't fall in love with someone without trust and comfort, and those are almost impossible to establish in the first two minutes.

One time, my female friend waited until we were alone and then jumped me. I didn't expect it at all. Apparently she had been harboring some attraction for me for months and I was oblivious. (probably because she was dating my friend during that time) So don't worry too much about making women fall in love with you right away. If you live your life in an attractive way, you're probably attracting women without even realizing it.

ethguardian · 2012-01-03T18:11:42+00:00

give yourself a reason to be confident. go to the gym, play a sport etc. ever wonder why frat guys are assholes? because most of them got hazed to some extent and now can assertively say they're pretty badass. even if they can't talk about it, they know it. that's inner game right there.
do you read their intentions the wrong way, like they want to isolate and you obliviously suggest something else? or is it different/worse?
girls do not all fall in love after the first few minutes. i'd guess your friends mean they decide whether they're attracted or not in the first few minutes, as opposed to guys who basically go "cute? check. 18? check. great let's go"

MARSpu · 2012-01-03T18:15:36+00:00

Confidence will come naturally the more you approach. I suggest you to set down some time this week for inward reflection. Make a description of the character you want to be and from that, create mission notes. Mission notes are like points for your character; for example, one of my mission notes reads MarsPU will be decisive in his everyday interactions and will take the initiative to act without being acted upon. Make sure you're being honest with yourself in your self-reflection and when you set down these notes. When you have them, read them every morning when you wake up and keep them in your phone or somewhere accessible for a positive affirmation when you're in doubt.
Women... just want excitement. Really. It's a biological thing. Unfortunately, wanting to have fun is pretty well synonymous with bad things in today's society. You don't need to read women's intentions at all.
The "fall in love" bit it is sorta true, depending on how you define love. Women do decide on whether they'd like you as a friend or more within the first two minutes of your interaction with them. First impressions die hard, as well, which is why so many guys complain about the friendzone.

ethguardian · 2012-01-03T18:27:06+00:00

I could be wrong, and maybe someone can corroborate this but shouldn't we be striving to live a life that we enjoy and having fun. The most successful FRs I see on here are from people who DGAF about women and are just out to have fun and enjoy yourself in any situation, whether with women, dudes, crazy old cat ladies, or what have you.

dontmakelists · 2012-01-03T19:51:09+00:00

Don't get obsessed with #2. Some basic recognition of social cues is helpful but if you spend your entire focus on trying to read others' body language and phrasing, you will be such a head-case that you'll never get anywhere. Be confident in your ability to vibe with any- and everybody, and this one will pretty much take care of itself.

ethguardian · 2012-01-03T18:47:39+00:00

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ethguardian · 2012-01-03T18:15:53+00:00

That third point is almost accurate, but I read it a little differently than they say it. From my experience, girls become infatuated really quickly and move on really quickly too.

Basically, that 2 minutes they mention is the time when they first meet a single guy and say 'hey, this guy is single and attractive. I hope we take it to the next level.' Make it happen! If in the coming days you don't make an advance, for the most part, you're off their radar.

rzm61 · 2012-01-03T19:03:38+00:00

I would like to say they probably meant 'lust.' Not love.

2012-01-04T00:42:30+00:00

1) I need to be more confident about myself. There are already a few good posts on here about dealing with this, the last one I would recommend is hormonal balance. High confidence is often a direct result of high testosterone. Hence the attraction women feel towards confident men. Do everything you can to balance this and you'll find yourself being more confident naturally: http://www.tokyo-pickup.com/articles/how-hormones-affect-your-inner-game.php

2) Try to read womens intentions! This is some canned bs they are feeding you imo. Don't read womens intentions, LEAD THEM! You need to make them want to fuck you. In my opinion, nothing you say actually matters at this point. You could be talking about how you'd like to see Donald Duck and Mickey Mouse in a UFC death match and she will have sex with you if express yourself properly. That means confidence, tonality, kino, etc. etc. etc. All the stuff that gets talked about day in and day out on seduction forums. I recommend this: http://www.tokyo-pickup.com/articles/the-seduction-equation.php

3) They both "fall in love" around 2 minutes or so after meeting a boy. More canned BS. Women do "fall in love" fast, and when it happens, they think back to those first two minutes and re-evaluate their thoughts to explain their current feelings. It will actually take at least an hour before a women feels really connected in most situations. If you don't follow through in that hour and the next, she won't explain those first two minutes as "love," and she won't even remember you.

xx6xx12 · 2012-01-03T19:14:26+00:00

There is no advice, these are things you must go out and conquer yourself. Sarg. Sarg. Sarg.

Edgar_Allan_Rich · 2012-01-03T20:15:01+00:00

"fall in love" around 2 minutes or so after meeting a boy

This is the conclusion I have made about pretty much all the females I have met over the past few years, as nothing else makes one bit of logical sense.

Title	3 key points to improve
Author	ethguardian
Upvotes	49
Comments	30
Date	January 3, 2012 5:30 PM UTC (14 years ago)
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