Approaching groups,while the goal is only one of them(not engaging with entire group) is the hardest thing ever

hunterpua · 2025-05-28T18:20:42+00:00

Approaching groups is arguably easier than approaching one person.

With the exception being 2 people.

Of all the possible scenarios, I think 2 people, especially 2 girls, is the one I dislike the most, because you have the least amount of maneuverability in that situation, because you can't ever leave the friend alone, unlike with bigger groups.

But groups of 3 to...1000 is happy days for me.

The thing you need to realise is, engaging in the entire group is so easy, because there is always gonna be a built in topic in that situation - Their relationship with each other.

You can just make an assumption about that and go from there. You can assume they're friends from middle school, co-workers who aren't that close, collaborating to take down a girl they find really annoying, celebrating a heist they just pulled off, etc.

And if you don't see the benefit of those last examples, you need to loosen up. Odds are you'll even get much better results when you do.

You can also talk about their roles in the group like "this one is the one who always causes trouble", "this one is the one who always fixes things", "this one is the one who always makes plans", etc.

When I see a girl on her own, I still need to think about how I'm gonna build a conversation, when I see a group, I know instantly what to talk about.

Also, 3 to infinity is basically the same. It's still pretty much a group of 3.

Why? Because humans can only have conversations with a max of 3 people at once. That means theres you, then theres 3 other people, making you a group of 4.

Anything beyond that breaks apart into separate conversations.

Anytime you're out with a big group you will see that happen without fail.

And don't make the mistake of confusing conversations with speeches.

A speech is when only 1 person talks and everyone else listens. You can absolutely do that with thousands of people.

A conversation on the other hand is when you're having a back & forth dialogue between people. You can't do that with more than 3 other people.

And about what you said about her feeling your attraction for her, so what??

Attraction is not based on reciprocity. Women cream themselves over guys who don't even know they exist.

Celebrities, workplace crush, random cute guy they come across, etc.

You don't show her you're interested to make her interested. Her interest is independent of yours.

You're better off looking like a cool guy who doesn't just handle her friends but who her friends end up really liking in the span of 2 minutes than trying to bypass them and show her how much you're into her.

All you need to sleep with a woman is to make her feel excited and horny. As long as you can do that, you're golden. Showing interest is only optional.

HappySprinter · 2025-05-28T17:50:48+00:00

You engage the entire group. Women lean so much on the approval of other women. If her friends think you’re funny/nice they won’t drag her away from you and she won’t feel shy about engaging with you

Edit: OP has blocked me 😂

Certain_Process_7657 · 2025-05-28T18:58:29+00:00

The key is trying to get her alone even for a few seconds. Go for the close (get the digits) when the other friend goes to the bathroom or up to the bar to get a drink. If it fails, you've only flamed out in front of 1 rather than both.

When initially approaching, you pretty much have to engage both and can't just ignore one. Assuming both are still attractive you'll most likely have better luck closing with the lesser attractive one since she's probably not used to getting approached much. I'm talking like a 6 and an 8. Not like a 5 point difference

SettingThat6018 · 2025-05-28T21:47:19+00:00

this comment section contradicts each other

KoleSekor · 2025-05-29T00:15:05+00:00

Just think how easy it'll be to approach 1 or 2 girls when you get used to approaching an entire group

pastor-of-muppets69 · 2025-05-28T18:27:38+00:00

The incentive to reject you and announce "I'm out of your league. Omg, creeps always hit on me, my extreme beauty is ruining my life!" is very high. Women used to have to compromise and isolate themselves or otherwise make themselves available for you to approach them in order to find partners. With online dating in their pocket, they can have a date pretty much whenever they want, so there is no incentive to do this. I make a point to spend a little time people-watching at night game venues and every. single. dude. no matter how attractive or smooth, is getting immediately shut down these days. "Aw, I didn't find a guy at the club for some reason. Oh well, I'll just say 'hey' any of my hundreds of matches, and they'll make something happen."

Ever go to best buy, pick something up and be like "I can get this cheaper and delivered for free on amazon"? You're crazy if you don't think the same dynamic is in play during night and even day game.

Existing-Big-3039 · 2025-05-28T18:19:43+00:00

That's one thing I noticed especially with very attractive women. They usually have a bigger entourage than the president.

whatsitworth101 · 2025-05-28T17:59:03+00:00

Yeah approaching girls who aren’t alone is really hit or miss.

The best is when they’re with a friend who encourages them to talk to you. That happened to me a few weeks back and it was so smooth she actually hooked me up big time.

But yeah most of the time it’s awkward and the worst is when they have some defensive friend trying to fend you off. That makes it impossible nearly.

epimpstyle · 2025-05-28T18:11:23+00:00

What do you understand by engaging the entire group? What do you need to do?

Title	Approaching groups,while the goal is only one of them(not engaging with entire group) is the hardest thing ever
Author	J1mmy_white
Upvotes	24
Comments	22
Date	May 28, 2025 5:45 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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