Are all girls REALLY crazy?

Foxsbiscuits · 2011-02-08T20:55:02+00:00

They are not being any crazier than you are. If you go out portraying a partyboy alpha male, you are going to attract girls who are interested in a fling. I'd wager that in order to find a 'sane' girl who is interested in having a lasting relationship, you'd be better off sprinkling your alpha game with more 'real' moments early on and be honest about what you want.

mdoddr · 2011-02-09T13:14:44+00:00

You know when they say "just be yourself"? It's not because being yourself will bag you any girl you want. It's because when you act like yourself you will only end up with people who like that.

When you craft a pseudo personality to help yourself bag club skanks you will end up with girls who are attracted to that personality. They won't change. Why should they? They're being themselves.

Also... Think about how crazy you seem to them. You act one way, and send out all sorts of signs of what type of person you are. Then you suddenly flip and act totally different.

frogma · 2011-02-08T21:26:42+00:00

Sounds like you (and apparently, some other people) are starting relationships with crazy girls after having sex with them. Don't make that mistake. You don't have to go out with them just because you've had sex with them. If I did that, I'd probably have 3 kids and just as many restraining orders by now. Normal girls will have sex too. You just have to choose wisely.

Edit: And no, the fact that you've gamed them doesn't make them any different. And it doesn't just attract crazy girls. Guys who are inherently good at game are called naturals. Next time you meet one, ask him about the "types" of girls he's been with. Chances are, he's been with a million different kinds of girls, from batshit insane to completely fuckin normal. That's just how the world works.

afcwtf · 2011-02-08T20:57:19+00:00

You have to ask yourself, what do you want? If you find a girl is like that and you keep her, that is on you man. Find quality women outside of bars and clubs.

tejmin · 2011-02-09T15:42:25+00:00

Everybody is crazy.

Sounds like you found a different kind of crazy than what you're used to. Keep looking for your particular flavor of crazy until you find it. That's all there is to it.

MonkeySteriods · 2011-02-09T10:31:18+00:00

"All women are crazy, but you have to admire the plumbing" - my uncle

Wumb0l0gy · 2011-02-09T14:02:34+00:00

How do you get into an LTR with a girl you've attracted with game?

You don't. When you put on the alpha PUA persona, you draw girls who are attracted to that persona. Generally this means girls who are hot, who know they're hot and are looking for validation outside their looks. If you use a lot of negs, you are going to attract girls with artificial self-esteem that you can manipulate freely. If you have lots of friends and a big social circle, you are going to attract girls who are looking to move up the social ladder.

I don't know about you, but I do not want to get in an LTR with one of these girls. Once I've put on my persona, I'll have to use the same persona every time I'm with her, and who wants to do that? Your LTR should be someone you can be yourself around, who isn't attached to your self-esteem, or attracted to your social value, but someone who is attracted to you. If you've read the end of The Game, Style finds the one girl who game doesn't work on. She's only attracted to him when he's being himself. That's how Style knows she's the one for an LTR.

Of course, you will have to use some aspects of game with every girl. You will always have to be the one who approaches, and you will always have to show your self-confidence. But beyond that, to get an LTR you need to be the guy you were before the PUA persona, the real you.

TL;DR: If you used game to get a girl, she's leeching something off of you. She's good for a one-nighter or as a fuck buddy, but nothing more. The girl who you attract without game is your LTR. She may even be The One.

philosarapter · 2011-02-09T01:47:18+00:00

I got out of a 6 year LTR a few months back because i wanted to go experience other women.

You sound crazier than the girls you are describing...

philosarapter · 2011-02-09T14:46:50+00:00

I don't know if I'd take the leap and say ALL girls are really crazy, but I would say that the vast majority of them are.

They function on impulsive emotional drives. Which wouldn't be such a big deal, but society (and perhaps mammalian evolution as a whole) treats them favorably. You see all the AFCs running around out there, they are all supplicating the girls into a state where they believe they can have whatever they want and for many years of their live they do get whatever they want. (For the hot ones anyway)

Couple impulsive emotions with the ability to see them granted and you find yourself with a demanding brat who doesn't know what she wants, because nothing is ever as good as it initially sounds.

Thus we have an entire society of these women who are completely unsatisfied by getting what they want and entire enticed with the things they cannot have. This is only amplified by the commericalized presence of luxury and status pervasive in our culture. The product of all of this is a crazy chick.

Here's is the key to finding an amazing chick: Find a girl who was unattractive, ugly, or fat growing up that one day decided to change all that, and became a bombshell later in life. Those are the girls that are wifey material. They didn't get spoiled by beauty growing up, they had to face challenges, develop a personality and a sense of humor to socialize and had the self-motivation to recognize their shortcomings and overcome them.

Where do you find these girls? Blending in with all the bimbos out there. Hence why its a numbers game.

So to answer your question: Spoiled rich girls never change, they don't possess the introspection to change. Girls that were beautiful their entire life will always be crazy, because that is the outcome of getting what you wanted your entire life. And you get a LTR with a girl when you find one thats capable of seeing herself for who and waht she is and not just what society has told her she is.

That's just my theory anyway.

2011-02-08T21:28:14+00:00

I too have experienced what you are talking about. I have been in long relationships 2-3 years, and I have been sleeping with as many as 5 women at a time, strippers, playboy models, college girls, older women, really successful and hot married ones, you name it, I am no slouch.

But there is one thing I have always known, instinctively, "The Game", PUA, works... but it's still bullshit.

If you are out there puttin down a scheme or "gambit", thats what you are getting back. You started the relationship off with Girl X based on something that wasn't a sincere connection, that's why its called "game". You may say THEY are crazy which quite a few of them probably are, because it's learned behavior, and bars and clubs are where they hang out in large numbers, but running game all the time while hoping to find a real relationship is just as crazy.

I will tell you what I told my friend when he first told me about PUA and "The Game", and I read some of the book for the first time. Sure some of this stuff works, it can help get you laid, and we should all have learned along the way quite a bit of it instintively not just with women... but it's not going to get you a decent girlfriend or relationship. That requires real connections from the get go.

The good women are not dumb animals, and finding a good relationship with one is not a safari, based on a toolbox of tricks and psycho-social weaponry.

heightmatters · 2011-02-08T22:58:27+00:00

Yes.

alexryane · 2011-02-09T01:21:49+00:00

The worst thing is that some girls are the opposite of this and actually really do want your love and affection, and i have trouble telling them apart. I have no problem with treating them either way, I treat it all as a game.

officerpoopsquid · 2011-02-09T13:30:10+00:00

Yup! Oh wait, hold on a sec: no. Don't be an asshole. If the girls you date are crazy bitches, it doesn't mean that every chick ever is a nutjob, it just means you date crazy bitches. Sometimes things are just that simple.

ThrowawayPUA · 2011-02-08T20:19:58+00:00

You tend to get out of your environment what you put into it. We see the flaws in others that we hate in ourselves. Get your inner game straight. Ask your fundie friend about the mote in your eye.

hbronez · 2011-02-08T21:11:47+00:00

Single, Hot or Sane, you can pick 2

Bobsutan · 2011-02-09T13:45:25+00:00

So. When do girls change? Are they all crazy? How to do you get into a LTR with a girl that you've met based on attracting her with game?

First off, women are all crazy, some more than others. At least from most guys' perspective they are. To them they're perfectly normal. Women saying one thing, but doing something entirely different (often contradictory) is just their nature. Might as well accept it and learn how to lead so that stuff doesn't happen so frequently. Most women by mid 30s get a handle on reality though once "good men" become a limited supply.

As for getting into an LTR with women you've used Game to get, well, to be honest if you're "using Game" to get women and haven't had the full deep seeded identity level change then you're really still just "faking it" and IMO not ready for an LTR. Women will sniff out "your true self" before long and dump you. It's often around the 3-6 month mark when things start getting serious, often resulting in the guy getting needy/clingy instead of continuing to be the fun dominant alpha guy she was attracted to in the first place.

colawars1 · 2011-02-10T07:24:36+00:00

Yup, but you still gotta love them!

TheOuts1der · 2011-02-08T20:52:52+00:00

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OLEgend · 2011-02-09T00:29:31+00:00

learning a ton about game and running game while meeting them

Man, fuck that shit. If it feels like a game, you're doing it wrong. Unless the girl you are into is a complete idiot. If it is a game, it isn't real.

nishnasty · 2011-02-08T23:17:47+00:00

If you want to skip to the tl;dr version; the answer is: yes. They all are no matter what they say, just different degrees of crazy.

IrLoserBoy · 2011-02-08T20:29:10+00:00

Dood, well put. This post is exactly what i've been wondering since i got out of a relationship similar to yours. Its been 2 years and this 'turning point' cannot be found. Its so much effort to play the girls and hook up 2 to 4 times a week for 3 weeks and then they are just gone. Its really fun sometimes, but so much effort.

sweeetnesss · 2011-02-09T14:26:17+00:00

Yes.

ferveo · 2011-02-08T22:55:11+00:00

"When do girls Change?" When they become WOMEN, until then, enjoy the crazy.

Title	Are all girls REALLY crazy?
Author	Stroppy25
Upvotes	12
Comments	40
Date	February 8, 2011 8:00 PM UTC (15 years ago)
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