Complete dating guide

TomAndOrSven · 2017-01-03T23:39:41+00:00

Send nudes^{^{guide^{^please}}}

jenghis_khan · 2017-01-04T00:19:34+00:00

No /u/mirotake, for the last time- I will not PM you for sex...

self_journey · 2017-01-04T01:51:31+00:00

You're recommending to say lackluster things for openers such as "Hello" or "You're cute." This usually goes against common wisdom. Girls get tons of messages like this so why would they pick yours? I've had some good experience with tinder in the last few years and most of my successes were from some sort of first message with actual thought behind it. So could you explain this further?

Hyperion_Dark · 2017-01-04T06:31:57+00:00

Can you elaborate on the tinder algorithm? I have to delete my tinder every few months because I just stop getting matches..but once I sign up again I get matches with the same pics

kalolilo · 2017-01-03T23:41:59+00:00

Most points are good, but some are really bad.

Opener doesn't matter. It does.
If you meet, it will be very awkward. Um no?
The first one two hours will be boring. Not at all! Some guys pull a girl within 5 minutes. 😉

Giterdun1288 · 2017-01-03T22:32:33+00:00

What is your opinion on finding a professional to take a headshot of you for Tinder? I've been told I have great pics in general but no good ones of my face.

Xanarxses · 2017-01-04T20:07:37+00:00

I just deleted Tinder while reading this post.

It hasn't paid off and honestly I'm nowhere near good enough to get anything out of it.

I just can't have a good profile. And besides dating apps/sites are damn near useless where I live. It's not a big enough pool of people.

And while this is all, generally speaking, good stuff I simply must ask, why does all this just feel like such a fucking chore?

All the really motivational/informative GAME stuff just makes me go "UGH".

This shit's a damn science at this point that it makes me laugh at how something so fucking seemingly primal and base in our biology is just such a pain in the ass to get.

jsbach123 · 2017-01-04T04:34:12+00:00

I think some of your advice is good.

But where it goes very wrong is how invested you are in the outcome. Just by reading it, it seems you're extremely concerned what the woman thinks about you and how you need a certain outcome. Women are good at detecting these types of guys, and it's not a desirable trait.

Another thing. Don't have all these "rules". It kinda reminds me of the Mystery Method where seduction advice is mapped out like an algebraic equation. For example, "[d]on't pay for her drinks?" UH, NO. If she ordered a $1.99 cup of coffee, are you really gonna ask her for money?

Using these plethora of rules will crush your self-esteem because, if you need them, you've admitted to us and yourself that you are not good enough and that you must hide behind these rules to impress a woman. In other words, she is the prize and stands on a pedestal, and you need tactics to get her to like you.

This mindset will lower self-esteem...and lower self-esteem always negatively affects how you behave. ALWAYS. Don't think "I'll fake it til I make it". No, you can't because she'll absolutely see right through it as it invariably shows in your behavior, some of which may be subconscious to you.

I've been through all these dating tips before. And lemme tell you...the ultimate dating advice can be expressed in one sentence. And that is, go out there, have fun, don't overthink, don't plan, be playfully direct, and don't give a fuck.

I think you'd be surprised how, the less you care, the more she cares. Because 9 out of 10 guys will use tactics, rules, games, or suck up to a girl. Do you want to be in the herd?

thefinaldestillation · 2017-01-03T20:27:58+00:00

Thanks for the post, very helpful!

grass_cutter · 2017-01-03T23:07:17+00:00

Question for you:

Most of my high quality pics are group photos. I'm not sure why, just is. When I'm out or at events, it's rare for me to demand a solo shot, just seems vain.

Now there are plenty of pics where I'm front in center, full body, high res, high quality, but if I crop it tight, you can still tell there's a girls/ guys directly to my left or right or both, just out of frame. Is that bad?

isurp · 2017-01-04T06:57:09+00:00

thanks for the guide man

LearnEndlessly · 2017-01-04T07:35:11+00:00

Thorough guide, I'm going to be reading through this often.

plsporo · 2017-01-04T10:10:43+00:00

I've got a selfie on tinder and do fine though, can you eloborate on the no selfies thing?

smurtzenheimer · 2017-01-04T23:25:51+00:00

Most of this is startlingly effective and good advice, but I'm kind of taken aback at how forward you propose becoming (more toward the end there). Granted, I'm very introverted so I could definitely be the weirdo here.

I'm also chin-scratching about the insistence on not paying for her drink (at coffee I can understand, but at a bar/secondary location?). Por que?

Snazzy_Serval · 2017-01-05T16:18:10+00:00

Very well written guide.

Do you have some more tips on writing a good profile and what types of pictures to include?

I had used Tinder for a year off and on and just got absolutely nothing from it. Most likely my profile was junk.

richardson277 · 2017-01-06T01:53:28+00:00

Why no pictures with other girls? Is it because girls compare them selves to the girls in the pics or make judgements based on who you're with? Most of my pictures of my self are me with good looking girls

I know my pictures are killing me on tinder though, i need to get better ones. I have an old iphone 5s that has a shit camera.

freddychuckles · 2017-01-03T21:06:07+00:00

It seems like tinder is the only way to go now a days.

Aeon199 · 2017-01-04T05:09:02+00:00

Hey man, since you seem to know so much about this.. do you have any advice for writing ads on the "less popular" services like Craigslist? I know it has a poor reputation, for several good reasons, but I like the initial anonymity of it.. you can post a good ad without your picture, and still get replies. I like the anonymity you can get there, which you simply CANNOT get on any other site, where they only look at your picture and screen you out immediately if you're not 6-feet-tall and ruggedly handsome.

There was a time on Craigslist that I got a lot of replies. But lately it's just not happening. My ads have gotten stale. So I need some help in communicating what I'm looking for, without seeming needy or boring, etc.

Contrary to what you may think, it's actually a myth that the only women who reply are unattractive. I would say a lot fit the description (and before you ask, I don't have high standards.) But there's also a lot who look like average, healthy women.

I just need to know how to run the process better, from writing a good ad to follow up with email, and then texting. I always screw up somewhere in the process.

Title	Complete dating guide
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