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[–]nuc1earwessels 110 points111 points112 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
A friendship is always worth risking for something more with a woman, 'cause being friends with a woman you desire will destroy you.
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[–]the_boss_jos007 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yup. Even if you think you’re friendzoned make the move. If you don’t another dude is going to end up railing her anyway lol
[–]frecklie 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Honestly I’m friends still with girls I desired back in the day and it’s great. They bring value to my life, full stop, and are a great sounding board for girl stuff I don’t understand. The key is that I am in a happy relationship and my ego is not wounded by them. It was rocky for sure at times but once I held up my end of the bargain and accepted that a friend was all I would get - it’s been great. Now I’m engaged and I have a richer social fabric too - so don’t say no matter what
[–]WanyCaleb 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It do be turn to bitter resentment too
[–]anotherwayoflife -4 points-3 points-2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I’d argue it wasn’t really a friendship then
[–]Dodechaedron 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Very true
[–]Informal_Wait_8471 15 points16 points17 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
This just happened to me unfortunately and it hurts. Using this as a learning experience.
[–]nuc1earwessels 21 points22 points23 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Thou must remember to always strike while the Iron is hot.
I had a girl show me her breasts, she asked to see my cock, and both times I shied away. A year later of us being friends and we were cuddling one time. I had more confidence so I started to massage her breasts and she said I had to stop 'cause I was turning her on and she didn't like that. Moral: if you don't show her you are able to fuck right away, she'll keep you in the friend zone.
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[–]nuc1earwessels 20 points21 points22 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If she makes a move on you early, and you don't fuck her soon, she might feel her pride hurt, and then label you as a friend to protect herself. Women too have a fear of rejection, especially if they are undressing in front of you to try and get you to have sex with them.
Now, I don't think that is the only reason why women friend zone. But in this situation that is what I think happened. Clearly she was still attracted, cause I turned her on, but I guess the ship had sailed.
[–]eazolan 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You rejected her.
[–]Archyblackcat 13 points14 points15 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
What hurts more about being friend zoned is seeing how another guy comes and with zero effort already has her dying for him lol fuck it, gotta learn to move on from this quick.. when you weren’t blessed with looks, you gotta develop more courage
[–]FlanneryODostoevsky 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The looks don’t even matter that much. When you vibe with someone and find them cute rather than insanely beautiful like a mode or some shit, it’s a bigger turn in in every way to see them happy.
[–]Important-Quote9544 15 points16 points17 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
its not skillset or knowledge it's she wasnt attracted to you from the begininng. Women know who they would date/sleep with within the first interaction with someone.
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[–]Important-Quote9544 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
meh not rly, you cant rly screw it up unless you say something or do something rly whack. You get a lot of leeway if she is attracted to you.
[–]pacg 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
That may be, but that’s not my experience. If a woman is indifferent toward you when you meet, she can develop an attraction, especially when you do something impressive and demonstrate value, or deploy some quality flirting and charm. Contrariwise, she can lose her initial attraction.
[–]Important-Quote9544 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah but that's rare. Most women know who they are down for right away. An avg guy is avg.
[–]cutanddried 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Hard lesson to learn
[–]FlanneryODostoevsky 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
True. That’s why it’s vital for guys to learn to match a girls energy. If she is going to deny the value of your friendship as a key ingredient to a romantic relationship, then walk away from it. Women defend these kinds of decisions a lot but in the long term learn that they’ve missed out on someone who really thought they were special. They waste their time with guys who just want to use them. So be it. There’s a woman out there who needs to be appreciated and will appreciate a nice guy. Go find her instead.
[–]b_a_d_r0b0t 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
If a woman is truly attracted to you, she will make sure you fuck her. If not then she was using you for money, attention, validation etc
[–]ALostGawd 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
#WISDOM
[–]Chronfidence 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Damn this is so pathetic to read. Move the fuck on and stop pining over someone you didn’t have the balls to move on. You don’t actually know if you had any chance at all so why worry about it.
[–]AngeloMacon 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
No, what you describe is a friendship which is why you got friend zoned.
[–]SpookyKG 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yeah OP is pathetic. There are LOTS of reasons she doesn't want to date you.
Thinking things like in OPs post is definitely one of them.
[–]AMC_Unlimited 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Classic case of mistaking kindness from a woman as interest. OP built a perfect relationship in his head and is shocked woman was uninterested.
[–]ppl_n_r_neighborhood 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Right? No, it totally must be that the woman is fickle, and moved on to a Chad, because she can’t see how perfect this dude is for her lol. Women like men who treat them badly, and they are incapable of forming real friendships like men can, so of course she couldn’t have rather preferred having someone who claimed to be a friend as really just a friend. It was just a failure on the dudes part for not acting fast enough! Not that she can have the right to not want to fuck every male who says they’re her “friend”! That would be crazy!
[–]AngeloMacon -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
The way you and OP are speaking is like girls. So the girl who you had a crush thought the same thing, you reminder her of her female friends. So they started to treat you like that.
Stop acting, talking or thinking like girls.
[–]ppl_n_r_neighborhood 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Oh my gosh, I’m so embarrassed that you thought my sarcasm sounded childish! And not just any sort of childish, but you have to say like a little girl, because being a girl is so much more insulting than being a boy lol.
Oh no, here’s me not giving a fuck what you think (and not just because you phrase things like you’re having a stroke).
This post is shitty, and most of the replies on here are equally useless and shitty. Low quality sexism right here, and not even from people who are actually having luck getting laid. y’all mother fuckers need to take some lessons on how to repress those weak willed women. Right now you’re all at a Crosby level, you need to take it up to an Epstein at least! Do at least 10 “grab her by the pussy” exercises a day, hit the gym, and buy a leather jacket boys, and you’ll be fine!
[–]AngeloMacon -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
No sexism I love women. I don't like men who are bad at being men.
[–]minarei 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Thats sexist bro
[–]AngeloMacon 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Have fun dying alone.
[–]minarei 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Dude im trying my hardest but i keep getting dates
[–]AngeloMacon 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Sorry man, that was harsh. Keep trying and keep on keeping your head up. Try to be a better man. Shit will improve if you keep on improving
[–]mightymite88 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
There's no such thing as the friend zone. If you dont wana be friends be honest and fucking leave her alone
[–]ppl_n_r_neighborhood -4 points-3 points-2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
This sub turned straight up toxic and full of misogyny a while ago lol, they are just going to downvote us into oblivion haha! Ouch that hurts so bad /s. I’m still waiting for it to get through to the average user of this sub that they’ve adopted a bunch of misogynistic mantras as their life’s purpose, and their lives are still sucking. Maybe then they’ll try a little empathy and treat women like people, and will finally get relationships that satisfy their needs/wants.
[–]mightymite88 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah first our mods got less strict and started allowing non pickup posts and then when the incels got nuked by Reddit a lot of them sleazed their way over here just to bash women and complain about SoCiEtY
But theres still some of us fighting the good fight and dating women because we love women. And trying to show men they can be successful if they're just willing to be better and work smarter
[–]recyclablebanthas1 point 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
You just didn't have the skillset / knowledge to move it into a romantic direction so she forever moved on.
It's absolutely true that a lack of game can screw things up for a guy in situations where the girl happened to be up for it.
And it's tricky because without the ability to read minds, it's sometimes hard to tell when someone is up for it without good game.
The misconception is that game creates attraction. It doesn't.
Not everyone has the same tastes, or is attracted to the same people.
And some people can certainly get along well as friends, with absolutely no attraction beyond that. And when this is the case, there's no amount of game that can change it.
Long story short, we need to stop with this unhealthy narrative that if the girl isn't interested or it doesn't work out, it is solely on the guy.
Seduction is a two-way street. A team sport. And there are a lot of factors on both sides that can lead to something failing.
The guy should definitely do what he can to improve things on his side, but if the girl isn't interested, it's not all on him.
[–]fzgen0 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Women are always interested in "good" men. They get obsessed madly even.
The thing you need to do go for yourself and find another one. Set a boundary, spend less and less time with her because you have other options. Show her that you have other options "better" than her. or Say that you like her more than a friend, get rejected, cut the contact to the very minimum, spend time with other girls and enjoy them.
if she doesn't want to loose you, she will break the silence, she will stare long at you, she may put some common friends and let you know etc etc.
that will happen "only" when you really focus on yourself, enjoy life and other women (particularly better looking ones)
that's the game. don't blame the gamer, blame the game. women evolved like that. in their realms, attention and validation is their prize.
[–]feedthekitty -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
This sub is getting so bad
[–]SpookyKG 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah this is some incel shit.
[–][deleted] 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
No interest in the beginning
[–]Infamous_Winter_3209 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Nah I’ve “friend zoned” women. It’s not just that you can’t move it to a romantic relationship or didn’t make the right moves. I’ve had women that we didn’t click sexually but had a great connection otherwise, sometimes shit just doesn’t work out and it’s nobody’s fault.
I’ve also been “friend zoned” a time or two. It’s generally that the connection wasn’t as strong as I thought it was, or priorities were different.
Yes you have to strike when the iron is hot, but being “friend zoned” isn’t always about that. In my experience it’s more about being emotionally compatible but not romantically. It sucks for the person who is still into the relationship but at the end of the day it’s better to be honest and upfront and get it over with.
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