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[–]Turlast 35 points36 points37 points 11 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Everything isn't a shit test.
[–]devillived1 points 11 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
sorry did you mean not everything is a shit test? or that literally everything is not a shit test
[–]Turlast 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The former. Shit tests do exist, but everything isn't disguised as one. Basically that.
[+]Martimnp -7 points-6 points-5 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
That is true. Most of the time it isn't, but I just like to be prepared.
[–]DaygameCoach 6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Prepared to treat everything as shit tests. :)
Read the sidebar help on shit tests. That should help you understand, recognize, and handle shit tests.
[–]i_forget_my_userids 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Is this your first day on the sub? Everything is a shit test according to the regulars.
[–]DaygameCoach 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
LOL. I just talk good game on Seddit...and whoever can recognize it...can value from it. :) Besides....maybe the one millionth time I mention the sidebar help...someone will read it...and it will all be worth it. :)
[–]AlexanderGson 6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Use commas man, not fucking ellipses.
[–]CrushHazard34 points 11 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link
Ummmm, that's not a "shit test", she probably just needs to go to the bathroom in a dive bar or something.
[–]chiliehead 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Even though there is a shit test paranoia going on, this is a textbook example of a shit test. It comes up a few times in the sidebar. Agree and amplify or make her do a small favor in return are good things to do, just don´t get upset.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's a textbook example of a guy being paranoid about his perceived masculinity. it's definitely not a test, regardless of what the sidebar says.
Now if a group of girls asks you to watch all their purses while they go dance, that is also not a test. That just means they aren't attracted to you. In other words, you have already failed the tests. Try again with another set.
[–]bilabrin 22 points23 points24 points 11 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
Don't refuse. Take the bag and put the strap around your shoulder and pose as if you wear it better with your outfit. You set others opinion of you holding the bag and if you are unflappable then that makes you sexy.
However, if you can't see yourself taking this route then when she asks just look into her eyes and say "excuse me?" with a look of genuine confusion as if she started speaking french. Then if she asks again don't speak, just change the look on your face from confusion to "Are you kidding me right now?/Did a 3rd eye just pop out of your forehead?"
Remeber, it's not so much what you say, it's how you communicate non-verbally.
[–]Skydiver860 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Don't refuse. Take the bag and put the strap around your shoulder and pose as if you wear it better with your outfit.
This is exactly what i would do in that situation. it screams confidence and will probably make her laugh.
[–]Martimnp 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Hahaha I love your first suggestion. Definetly using that! Thanks :)
[–]JDawgSabronas 9 points10 points11 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I'd wear the fuck out of the bag and when she came back ask her how fabulous I look, then trade her a kiss for the bag back.
[–]doubledutch6 16 points17 points18 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Take the bag, start to go through it, she'll never give it to you again.
[–]jackzander 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Treasure Hunt
[–]PM_ME_4_COKE_HOOKUP 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
Wow if a girl did that to me? I can't imagine. A bold challenge to your masculinity. It means she thinks you're weak.
Spit directly in her face.
[–]trancepticon 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Dont forget to piss on her.
[–]PM_ME_4_COKE_HOOKUP 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
And kill her dog
[–]kate169 points 11 years ago [recovered] (11 children) | Copy Link
I'd respect a man confident enough to hold the bag rather than a guy who is so insecure that he would think masculinity is tied to it.
[–]Martimnp 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
It's not a matter of insecurity, shit I don't mind holding the bag! It's just in this sub people always say "Oh, don't hold the bag. It's synonym to being a beta..." and shit like that so I was wondering what to do in this situation.
[–]IpickupGrandmothers 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago* (6 children) | Copy Link
Don't worry about it. If holding her bag crosses a boundary FOR YOU, then don't hold it. If you don't care, then hold it or do what you want. Guys are (understandably) too paranoid on this subreddit. Viewing everything as a shit test is either:
More often than not, it falls on the latter. If you view everything as a shit test, oftentimes you'll wind up putting-off authentic, honest people because you're judging their actions as adversarial and antagonistic. You're essentially being weird by picking a fight when there wasn't one in the first place.
It's not about following a rigid set of rules that you must always adhere; life doesn't work like that. It's about following general principles. Is the girl being a cunt and making outrageous demands? Fuck no I ain't holding no bag. Is she just asking for a small favor? Yeah it's cool, I'll hold it.
The people who worry too much about appearing beta (e.g. must have cool one-liners all the time, views everything as a shit-test/attack on their masculinity, etc.) are coming from a beta's perspective. They (understandably) care too much about how other's perceive them rather than how they perceive themselves. Alphas just don't care because they don't let their sense of self-worth get affected by minor things. Just do you.
People gotta stop looking at dating (and relationships in general) as this adversarial dynamic. If you're coming from that perspective, well, it's a great way to make superficial relationships (whether platonic or romantic).
[–]mikkiebobbie 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Alright so assuming that holding the bag isn't a shit test, then what are the genuine shit tests that do exist and should be on the look out for ?
[–]IpickupGrandmothers 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I'm sure there's a list of those somewhere, but honestly, I would say to just not worry about shit tests. Caring too much about shit tests is exactly how you fail them. I'm sure I get shit tested all the time, but I almost never recognize them because I just play everything off as a joke.
IMHO, looking for shit tests is the wrong way to approach dating. Just don't worry about them. If you meet a woman who goes out of her way to give you shit tests, then I simply don't want to be with her anyway. I don't even care about passing/failing shit tests because I wouldn't even want to date or fuck her. The type of woman I'd want to date wouldn't really give shit tests, unless we're talking in the context of friendly, light-hearted ball busting.
I mean, I guess it's cool to look up shit tests to satisfy curiosity, but I think worrying about them means you're inherently coming from the wrong angle. So it's not about recognizing shit tests, but switching your mentality so you don't give a shit about shit tests.
[–]mikkiebobbie 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I don't even care about passing/failing shit tests because I wouldn't even want to date or fuck her.
So, leeeeeet me get this straight? If said girl was a 10 out 10, sexiest thing moving in the room. And she was digging you but (hypothetically) giving you shit test? You wouldn't want to hookup with her ? At all? Am i suppose to believe that ? I can totally understand not date , but a hookup....c'mon...!
The type of woman I'd want to date wouldn't really give shit tests, unless we're talking in the context of friendly, light-hearted ball busting.
What's the difference ?
So simple non-participation in the shit is the "trump card" if you will.
[–]IpickupGrandmothers 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I'll think she's hot, don't get me wrong, but I'm in a place in my life where I want my women to have more than just looks. Plus, I'm in a place in my life where I want more fulfillment than just getting my dick in a hole, know what I mean? I mean sure, I might try to fuck her, but I have other things in life that I care about.
Look dude, it really depends on the situation and how I'm feeling in the moment. I'm not gonna fuck women for the sake of fucking women, and I'm not gonna be chaste for the sake of being chaste. Know what I mean?
Am i suppose to believe that ?
What you believe is your choice, not mine. You're free to believe what you want to believe in. ;)
I don't know the strict definition for "shit test" because I never cared. But if she's just being a cunt, then I have no desire to talk to her. Not worth my time. But if she's just fucking around and teasing me, then I'll probably be interested.
It's not about non-participation. It's not about the actions that you're doing. You can ignore her and still be coming from a place of insecurity and trying too hard. It's about the emotions and mentalities that are driving your actions.
Basically, it's not what you do, but how you do it.
[–]mikkiebobbie 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Plus, I'm in a place in my life where I want more fulfillment than just getting my dick in a hole
The Feels . But that does lead me to wonder, for someone who is simply out to get his dick wet, would that same apathy/unawareness of shit test work in that lad's favor as well, or would at that point the pass/fail mentality becomes more valid?
Given.
But if she's just being a cunt
Ohhh, well that's totally different. No of course don't stand for that. I was thinking more in terms of her playfully putting you in a situation or to see how you will react or what you will do. Like testing the waters to see how far she can actually go, you know, without crossing into total bitch territory lol
That's a keeper!
[–]IpickupGrandmothers 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Hm, I guess it's not so much apathy/unawareness. I just emphasize it because a lot of guys here are (understandably) insecure and get super paranoid about shit tests. Like, "she's shit testing me and it must mean that I'm not demonstrating enough masculinity so I should try even harder to be all super suave!", when in reality, it's like dude just chill.
But overall, I would say, both can work. Do what works for you. Just don't be fanatical.
Like, if your mentality is, "hey that was a shit test and I passed, cool", then that's cool. But if you're getting super arrogant about passing shit tests, or if you're walking around paranoid about failing shit tests, then it's not that cool.
Hm, I guess it depends on the context.
[–]calebmke 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
This is also a sub full of "tricks" on how to relate to human beings. Somehow we've gotten along without it for hundreds of thousands of years.
[–]CS192837465 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
What is this?
[–]Moderatorrecyclablebantha 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Let's say a woman wants you to hold her bag (a shit test).
I kind of disagree with the idea that shit tests are everywhere. Or rather, that they are this adversarial thing that you have to have the right answer for all the time. Many "shit tests" are just two people finding out that they aren't compatible in some way. You shouldn't be trying to have the "right answer" all the time, so much as you ought to be trying to give your answer.
The key thing that should be worked on, is not so much figuring out the right answers, but rather one's confidence.
How do you refuse without sounding like an asshole?
I hesitate to use the phrase, "shit test," but the way you respond to requests like this, DOES make an impression.
If you say, "No," it could come off like a dick move.
If you say, "No," and give good reasons, that might be justified.
If you say, "Sure," then you're possibly being too compliant. Especially if you always fall into such a role without ever drawing boundaries for yourself. (Read: You risk becoming or turning into, a doormat.)
If you comply with a playful condition (request), that can be a fun way to be nice while still enforcing yourself.
[–]havoc92 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No.
[–]speeno 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"There is no spoon" If you want to say no, just say no. Be comfortable with the possibility of people thinking you're a jerk. If you don't think you're a jerk, you're right.
[–]Crazyinnova 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Why didnt you leave that in the car. I dont mind holding your phone,card,id,cash, but not the booksack.
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[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is the most autistic thing I've ever read.
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[–]brandacus 7 points8 points9 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I'd hope a girl wouldn't let some random stranger hold her bag lol
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