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BigZmultiverse · 2019-03-17T09:02:17+00:00

That last point is new to me and I really like it!

Morganafreeman · 2019-03-17T12:04:47+00:00

That last part is a powerful message man.

Octavia76 · 2019-03-17T12:25:16+00:00

Love the advice ‘leave them better than you found them ‘ gold!!!

Nimhtom · 2019-03-17T16:24:17+00:00

Damn, I love this community. It's all the game of pick up artistry, without the sexism and toxicity. Everyone here us just finna find love man.

Kjohn1990 · 2019-03-17T06:46:20+00:00

Really well done breakdown

2019-03-17T06:38:30+00:00

Good stuff.

2019-03-17T14:55:40+00:00

This is what's helped me on my journey in Game. I also took style more seriously lately and started to dress punk. I never had a style. I use to be so shy and couldn't have a conversation with a girl at all. I did approach in college and got lucky twice. I didn't know WTF I was doing but, I knew that they both liked me cause they kept smiling at me from afar. Now I catch girls just staring and then I stare back tell they look away. This is how you show confidence from the beginning of the interaction. I also give unexpected eye-contact during a conversation. I'll do it instantly even if I'm ordering something at a restaurant. The girl starts giggling and smiling.

str8teballin03 · 2019-03-17T16:50:21+00:00

Facts, Being result driven will kill your game or night. I just got out of a 5 year relationship and used to get furious every time a woman rejected me. It wasnt till recent that I got comfortable with the fact that not every woman will like my approach, and will reject me. Once I got comfortable with rejection and awkward moments thatd when I started to become more successful with women and now I am going on dates 2-3 days a week.

Snakehead004 · 2019-03-17T12:54:53+00:00

Don't drink when you go out

Where are you going out then? I also hit rock bottom (5+ years for me. Divorce, etc) and put some serious work on myself. I'm well socialized, live in a large city and have a very fun and attractive friend circle. When we see a guy at the bar, not drinking and actively hitting on girls it screams creep. My female friends will clown that guy so hard he'll loose all social value and have to move locations. I've seen it countless times. Do you have friends who you're with that are drinking and having fun? If not, where do you go at night to hit on women but not distinguish yourself in a bad way? Asking because I end up spending way too much money on alcohol (even 1-3drinks adds up at 7-10$ each). Thanks

SwoleBuddha · 2019-03-17T16:23:45+00:00

Great post! Question for you, so at what point should a guy set dating aside to focus on his life and at what point should he just do both?

This has been confusing me lately. I'm not overly satisfied with where my life is. At first I thought dating is the missing piece, so I dived into the game.. I took a lot of rejections but after a recent success.. I began to question if dating is the missing piece.

ThisPlaceIsNiice · 2019-03-18T10:13:03+00:00

Good stuff, only one thing I don't like:

Telling someone to "just have an abundance mentality" or "just be confident" is like telling a poor person to "just have money". It's just not how it works. You grow confident in your dating skills by experiencing success in dating and you get an abundance mentality by having an abundance of women available (a direct result of effort combined with success). It's just not helpful to tell someone that they need to have something they only get by succeeding in order to succeed. Catch 22s suck. Focus on the other points instead.

twan1991 · 2019-03-17T09:06:09+00:00

Legit!

VulcanXIV · 2019-03-17T13:10:29+00:00

Prioritize bringing joy to the woman your approach by the end is the interaction.

Excellent. That's great because more than anything, it keeps men from going full creepy horn dog.

2019-03-17T16:09:10+00:00

This is pure gold right here.

obi9 · 2019-03-17T16:24:54+00:00

I really felt touched by your words .. specially the last point. Thanks man.

2019-03-17T16:38:46+00:00

dude, you are a philosopher. The last one is amazing

Aluminari · 2019-03-18T02:12:33+00:00

An excellent post all round! Congrats

recyclablebanthas · 2019-03-18T02:55:24+00:00

Don't drink when you go out

I'd only say that it's not necessary to be completely dry when one goes out. Drinking socially is fine, but getting drunk is when it becomes a problem.

If one can't drink without getting "wasted," then that's a whole different issue.

There's nothing wrong with nursing a drink, etc. It's not expensive to grab a cheap beer, etc. Simply having a drink in your hand, even if it's the same drink for 2 hours, helps one plug in, otherwise it's possible to get pegged as taking advantage of drunk girls on an uneven playing field.

Alex_O7 · 2019-03-17T13:12:42+00:00

General stuff, i personally don't agree with the game mantra "Don't drink when you go out". It turn out to be super social awkward in most of the situations if you go out and don't drink. And with this i'm not saying that a guy should get drunk before talking to a girl. But just a drink or two should be fine and could really be a boost to your social status (or at least you don't look like the awkward guy that refuse to drink a glass of wine/beer or a cocktail).

ericporing · 2019-03-17T13:02:38+00:00

The last bullet point is nice. I haven't seen that advice here before.

2019-03-17T13:41:10+00:00

I needed this post.

2019-03-17T13:55:27+00:00

Good advises!

BroKick19 · 2019-03-17T15:07:44+00:00

I really liked the last point. Very nicely written.

agonzale · 2019-03-17T17:28:30+00:00

This is a great post. Thank you for sharing this. I'm in year 2.

Turkooo · 2019-03-17T19:20:11+00:00

-Be funny, but not a dancing monkey.

Women like funny men, but if all you're doing is throwing out jokes, you will come across as one-dimensional and won't build any genuine, long-lasting attraction.

How? Im either tossing jokes left and right or im totally serious. Its like the state of my mind. I cant talk about normal topics,make a joke and then continue. Its either A or B. Also when I try make some joke , Im not sure how to revert into being normal ?

wont_give_no_kreddit · 2019-03-17T19:41:43+00:00

Great delivery. A man needs to show some independence before leading succesful pick up campaing while they look for the right woman.

BlackZetaRadar · 2019-03-17T21:07:57+00:00

This was amazing. Thank you for your advice

Gasifiedgap · 2019-03-17T21:22:48+00:00

In any interaction you have, be it romantic or platonic, remember to be a value-giver and not a value-taker. I didn't overcome my approach anxiety until I could look at the woman I wanted to approach and say to myself, and mean it, "I don't know how this interaction will end, but I can guarantee her night will be better for having met me." That's an extremely empowering attitude. If you truly believe that you can bring joy to another person's life, there's no reason not to talk to them. But you won't get this feeling until your intentions are congruent with the above mantra. When your priority is to bring joy into the lives of others, there's no room for lies, games, vengeance or deceit.

I like this quote. As I think many people get obsessed with not being a 'nice guy'. But I think if you can be genuinely giving without expecting anything in return that is a very attractive quality. I'm not saying be a door mat that doesn't stand up for yourself when need be, but I've always found a more positive experience in life when I can just give people what they want, without necessarily expecting something. The idea that if you give her attention and you get nothing in return you've lost won't get you far.

SwoleBuddha · 2019-03-17T21:37:43+00:00

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2019-03-18T01:02:44+00:00

If you let the lows knock you out of the game, you won't get to experience the highs waiting for you up ahead.

Pretty sure you stole that one from Warren Buffet ;)

Good job on the personal development. Admirable observations.

SwoleBuddha · 2019-03-18T01:37:53+00:00

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huntdog49 · 2019-03-18T05:23:15+00:00

Having, "standards", only works when they are broad. You must be willing to change some. (Nothing important like religious faith. ) Your personal appearance is very important. But,these days,you must have a look that causes you to stand out in a crowd. Here's the most important thing:Don't lie. Don't try. It would be better that you were never born when she finds out that you have lied. Good luck.

KinoChris · 2019-03-18T08:42:39+00:00

You got my upvote.

blankface96 · 2019-03-18T16:52:51+00:00

Thanks for this post. I was going through a slump today and this gave me a good boost to stay on track.

bdb02 · 2019-05-29T00:36:29+00:00

Came back to this article right before my first date I really liked it

Not_My_Real_Acct_ · 2019-03-17T22:34:49+00:00

Have standards and stick to them.

I couldn't disagree more.

When I started dating online, I noticed that it's basically a "quantity vs quality" thing: you can get a lot of dates but a lot of these women are mediocre looking.

At first, this was embarrassing. I remember one girl in particular who was fat and dumpy and I was embarrassed to be seen in public with her. I'd make an effort to walk a few steps ahead of her, in case someone saw me.

Damn, am I glad I got over that!

Homely girls are a blast. They're less work, they're frequently great in bed, they're often smart.

For me, it got to a point where it became a preference.

I'm not saying that EVERY beautiful girl is a pain in the ass, but there's definitely a trend.

Obviously, if you're looking for a monogamous committed relationship, my advice is silly. But if you're playing the field, give fat girls some love.

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