[FR] Day 24 - Someone please shoot me

Dorman010 · 2014-12-11T16:28:44+00:00

Excellent FR buddy. Here are a few pointers for you:

Inner Game - work on that shit. Seriously. I know it's easier said than done - hell, it's far easier starting with Outer Game/routines and then moving on to Inner Game (that's the way I started), but it's solid Inner Game that gives you the real value. In the end, the routines work because you are confident that they work and that they portray certain value.
Your AA - I have a personal technique that I use when dealing with AA. I imagine the guy who has the AA, and I call him Mr. Loser. That's who he is. Mr. Loser. He's that deadbeat roommate we all once had, the one who never cleaned up or got out of his room but still somehow paid the rent occasionally. Now, while it is well within our right to distance ourselves from Mr. Loser, we must not bee too harsh on him, for Mr. Loser is our former self and is therefore on the way to becoming what we presently are, which is (one would hope) better! Now, next time you feel AA, I want you to enter the conversation with Mr. Loser and see what he has to say. All in your head, of course, but it works for me. Oh, it also helps with my storytelling :P
You ask why you are afraid of approaching, what's wrong with you, etc. Well, to clear up the most pressing question here - nothing is wrong with you. You're just unlucky to have less-than-average confidence in your abilities. Why are you afraid? Because we naturally are always are afraid of rejection. If you've read Mystery's books, he talks about it in a rather straightforward manner; we were once tribal, hunter-gatherers. This meant that rejection by even a single female of our tribe would all but spell the end of our genetics. This made approaching very risky. Now, we are far beyond that level with modern technology, but our brains have not adapted to it yet. That's why you're scared, because you want to continue your genes and make sure your name doesn't die out any time soon.

Ok, a break for some positive reinforcement here - good job on the karaoke and good on you for going to the gym! Physical activity is incredibly important for inner game (I lift weights too, it really helps) and so is proving to yourself that you can have fun in front of a crowd!

Now, to balance it out, two big mistake I think you made:

You alienated the friend. There are many possible reasons why she said "no" like she did. Perhaps she didn't want her friend to look like a slut. Perhaps she was hoping you would hit on her instead of her friend. Perhaps she had a crush on her friend. Perhaps she's actually her mother's three-times-removed gay uncle's roommate's daughter and has a special relationship with her. You get the idea. Lots of possible reasons, but those aren't your problem. Your problem is that you punished her (i.e. ignored her) when she put up this bitch shield. Don't know if you've ever seen Kezia Noble's stuff, but she has some great videos on how to deal with bitch shields. Here's one. Why is alienating the friend a bad thing? Well, the girl has two options - listen to her friend who she's known for possibly years upon years, or listening to this guy who she's met literally less than a minute ago. I think both of us know what's going to happen in that situation.
Stop feeling sorry for yourself. It's not going to get you anywhere. No fucking where. Whenever you feel sorry for yourself, you justify your failure in your head. You shake off responsibility, "It's not my fault, I'm just so bad in seduction!". You are shooting yourself in the fucking foot. You are portraying Mr. Loser. We both know where that ends.

And I'm not even going to apologize for the wall of text. Deal with it. ;)

8sweettooth8 · 2014-12-11T08:54:07+00:00

Thanks for the FR. I just want to say that's fucking hilarious that you said that in front of her friend. Depending on your body language it could have meant (A) but I don't give a shit (B) I'm affected by it.

Next time, don't watch porn before going out and don't masterbate. You'll lose some sexuality in you... it's best to save that energy for the party.

You did the right thing by not giving up and trying to slowly build up your self-esteem and energy. However, I think you're more pissed off about being cockblocked than your night in general. It's apparent in your FR. Just let it go. It's done and over with. There will be may more approaches to come with a lot less bullshit to handle.

JackGetsIt · 2014-12-11T17:24:31+00:00

I somehow gave off creeper vibes

Girls will act like your creeping them out and their actually incredibly flattered. You're letting the female reactions define how you feel about yourself. Stop that.

I think they just throw that word on every single guy they just don't like to boost their own ego!

This is correct. Stop contradicting yourself and have some trust. You're light-years ahead of all the guys on their couch on a Saturday night so keep up the good work.

LeRick11 · 2014-12-11T15:58:46+00:00

One thing you did wrong in addition to your list is watching porn before you went out. If you want me to explain why I will.

jeffthehat · 2014-12-11T16:07:46+00:00

Bruh. Think less.

You're hurting yourself by visioning every occurance as PUA. Just enjoy yourself and be in the moment. Skills will come with increased exposure.

Props for going out and making an effort though. Do some more work on inner game/ turning off the negative voice in your head.

RyPA · 2014-12-11T17:02:05+00:00

fuckfriendbitch I lost it...

M4ncubus · 2014-12-11T12:54:31+00:00

I know it sounds corny but don't let one cockblocking bitch ruin your game or your whole night. And .. a little AA in the beginning of the night is acceptable. Don't make yourself so much pressure and approach a few guys or HB5 first to warm up.

Problem is, when you GET approached by a woman, your expectations might be too high and it happens not often enough to do "normal" game afterwards. It's always easier to approach yourself and be rejected and DGAF, because YOU DID IT and nothing else matters. But if she approached you, your brain is like "oh damn, don't fuck it up .. don't fuck it up!" and that mindset is hard to handle.

BlueString94 · 2014-12-12T05:53:03+00:00

Woah man, you care way too much and it's hurting you. Just go out and a have a couple drinks with a few friends, get in a good mood, have a good time. Go out with the intention of having fun, that's it. Once you're in a good mood, if you see a girl you want to talk to, that's the time to do it. Not walking in the bar after a workout with such a clear goal in mind. That's not why people go to the bar.

karmacrunch · 2014-12-11T12:13:41+00:00

Well thanks for all the info dude I feel for you Did you go out with friends? I can't reccomend going out to bars etc alone

rickraus · 2014-12-11T13:10:31+00:00

Dude wana be AA bros. I recently posted this and I really think AA is my biggest issue. The funny thing is man, that at the same time THAT is our biggest issue! What if our biggest issue was we had a crippling speech impendement or that we didnt speak the language, or ANYTHING ELSE. Literally our bigggest issue is that we have anxiety. boo. fucking. hoo. We can overcome this! I think having someone to keep us in check would be helpful and/or useful as a resource.

Anyways it aint over and the light is at the end of the tunnel!

Lemme know

Jaereth · 2014-12-11T15:13:31+00:00

She would pull her away, look at me and say, "No!".

Jesus I fucking hate jealous bitches so much.

StarwaysCongress · 2014-12-11T23:49:16+00:00

It was really pissing me off. She would pull her away, look at me and say, "No!"

My favorite response to shit like this is "Oi! In 6 years when we're married with kids you're going to feel like a complete bitch for what you're doing right now." or "Oi! This is true love. Get the fuck out of here." I always say this with balls-out confidence and a cocky-funny demeanor. Usually works. Don't be shocked if a psycho attacks you though.

Guys responded well to me at least... Yea... great...

Sarcasm on your part here, yeah, I see that. But stop giving a shit how people respond to you. Work on making yourself feel good independent of them while still involving other people. It's a paradox and it takes tons of practice, but ultimately it's how you get laid.

Personally, I'd be a little angry at the invasive cunt that was killing your vibe all night but I'd also think it's hilarious that I happened to be the guy she was taking her insecurities out on. I'd laugh at the situation and at her. If the tip I gave you at the top didn't work I'd grab the cute friend's number really quick and leave them to find other cute girls.

Throwcore · 2014-12-12T00:03:34+00:00

Honest question mate - How do you will yourself to go out after porn/masturbation? Cause yes others have said you shouldn't do it before going out but despite doing it - you still did (go out)! Which is good I think. But how do you do it... I have trouble with motivating myself to approach after I do this shit and yet can't stop.

otherwise, you gave this a really silly title. I think you did pretty good for sum1 just beginning.

Radicalmattitude1 · 2014-12-12T20:25:24+00:00

"Getting rid of AA one and for all, or at least developing methods that kill it, each time and quickly"

From your field report it sounds like this is the most important thing to learn from the night. The thing about AA is that it never goes away, not really. You said you had 5 good nights before this night right? The truth is that you could have 100 good nights in a row and still end up in shitsville on night 101.

But YOU DIDNT GIVE UP!

That's the most important thing. You went up and sang in front of a room full of people for gods sake. That's something that would make tons of dudes shit their fucking pants.

You seem to be analyzing your specific thought patterns and subsequently how you end up in certain mindsets. That is perfect!

The only way to truly conquer AA is to recognize when you're getting it, and find a way to mentally squash it before it gets the better of you. And only you can discover how to do this by personal introspection.

I have my own silly tricks like visualizing myself being a fucking god and making girls cum the second I open my mouth. Or pretending I'm the male version of Brittaney Spears in one of her music videos.

Books and forums can give you suggestions but you have to learn what works for you.

Singing karaoke is ingenious btw

free_willee · 2014-12-13T04:44:12+00:00

We're all out here to make some gainz man, them social gainz, as long you learned something I would call it a successful inner-game/improvement night rather than a #/f-close success. Nice FR and nice job, keep up the good work.

We're all gonna make it.

pchiodo · 2014-12-11T15:32:28+00:00

idk - I think if I got cockblocked that way I'd start hitting on the friend. Obnoxiously. Things like, "Your ass is kinda fat, but I'd hit that anyway"

This way you either piss them both off, and you're free, or you get them both fighting over you. Even better.

Title	[FR] Day 24 - Someone please shoot me
Author	mistersunman
Upvotes	44
Comments	35
Date	December 11, 2014 8:38 AM UTC (11 years ago)
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