How do you use wealth/success to better attract women?

sirmcquade · 2012-09-17T15:14:14+00:00

You don't.

Women don't sleep with wealthy men, they relationship them.

They plan on riding your cock off the entire way back to your place, but once they set eyes on your big beautifully manicured home they switch to 'good girl' mode.

puaCurveBall · 2012-09-17T15:45:27+00:00

This is not the point of this subreddit. By playing up the provider role, you are missing out on the seducer role.

Don't rely on crutches, you will be less than your true potential. Master pickup on its own, and then you'll have the wealth / success on TOP of all that.

Johnny_Kilroy · 2012-09-17T14:40:28+00:00

Surely the successful and wealthy should fare better at attracting women than their mediocre or impoverished counterparts

Statistically speaking, sure, there may be more wealthy guys getting girls than poor guys getting girls (even though I doubt it. I've met some hood-ass motherfuckers that pull like CRAZY). But I don't really know since I haven't looked up any of the statistics. But in terms of what makes you attractive, wealth is virtually irrelevant.

If you feel the need to convey your own success (we call that a DHV, demonstration of higher value), then it actually makes you look bad. If you feel the need to convey your material successes, then it's coming from a place of insecurity. So, it actually becomes a DLV (demonstration of lower value);

How to distinguish? By developing real social skills and "game". But if you want to look/dress better FOR YOURSELF AND NOT FOR OTHER PEOPLE, there are other subreddits for that.

Edit:

Re-reading your post, I caught this little tidbit.

all else being equal.

You can't just quickly add that to your argument and call it a day. That "all else" is the most significant part of attraction. The problem is that it doesn't seem as if you have that "all else", which you're trying to substitute it with material goods.

Maybe I'm wrong and I'm pulling assumptions out my ass, but this is what it seems like you're doing. If I am wrong, then I apologize for being a massively judgmental asshole.

To actually answer your question, if you want to display your wealth, it HAS TO COME FROM A PLACE OF EXTREME NON-NEEDINESS. People will subconsciously understand through your emotional state that you're not coming from a place of neediness/insecurity, so displaying your wealth won't become an AFC move. DHVs only work when they come from a place of outcome independence.

KeroKeroKeroppi · 2012-09-17T20:55:50+00:00

I am wealthy and succesful, and I almost never reveal it during pick up.

When people ask me what I do I tell them I'm a hobo, or I tell them about my hobbies instead..

Women are more likely to sleep with me if they think I am just some loser. Once, they realize "who I am", its like a switch fucking flips and they are evaluating me on a whole different plane.

They are trying to figure out how to boyfriend me. This has a whole host of problems, such as their standards going way up, and their sex timeline slowing way down.

Real information about my career and success is for day 2 or 3s+, and tend to come up naturally in conversation.

2012-09-17T18:03:47+00:00

For actually answering your question, Myster money clip routine. Also DJ Fuji has a routine where after he knows it's on, and he needs to get a girl a drink, he'll hand her a hundred, tell her his drink order, and head to the bathroom. Aside from the obvious DHV of having money, this also demonstrates that you trust her and also means that she can't leave for a time (there's a PUA term for this but I forget what it is).

To everyone elses point, having money is not that big of a deal. Unlike everyone else's experience, I have found it to be helpful, and I don't think I attract a certain gold-digger type girl. Only thing I gotta look out for is those girls that have lived in the neighborhood a while and loathe me for driving up rent.

sirmcquade · 2012-09-17T18:37:32+00:00

If you're successful and wealthy, being unforgivably retarded is the only way to blow your chances.

You know why poor guys still get laid, right? Because they're arrogant pricks, that's fucking why. Quit worrying about your self-image and flaunt your success. They eat arrogance out of your hand, like it's the sweet nectar of the gods. It just works, don't ask why. Just do it.

dark180 · 2012-09-17T20:47:02+00:00

In my personal opinion, its not if you have money but rather how money makes you feel. Yes rich guys do get laid more, not bc they are rich but bc the way they behave bc they are rich. Just imagine you walk into a club with a large amount of money to spend on your birthday night. You are going to walk in like you fucking own the place, have better body language, more confidence when talking to people etc. THIS is what attracts girls, not the fact that you are rich, sure some girls will sleep with you bc you have a nice car, or maybe if you are someone famous, but honestly i would want to stay away from those. There is nothing worse than a guy who wont stop trying to show off, wether its buying bunch of shots, buying bottles talking about his boat, car, etc. This only conveys insecurity and desperate need of validation. Girls will either get annoyed and leave or use you and then leave. DHV are one of those things that I try to be careful with bc if you dont do it correctly you sound like a douche bag or like you are trying too hard. One of the best DHV i have is knowing the bartender/bouncer, having a wingman/pivot talk good about you ( you need a good wing bc it must be natural , i have seen soo many wings trying too hard at this and fucking it up) and lastly, I like to talk about my hobbies, I used to travel a lot, so i try to thread the conversation to include one of my trips. This not only shows that you are fun and adventurous but that you can afford it too.

squarehouse · 2012-09-17T22:12:03+00:00

Just speculating, because I'm poor, but two thoughts:

Try using two levels of indirection. Don't say that you are wealthy or successful, and don't indirectly refer to you being wealthy or successful. But two levels of indirection seems like a sweet spot in general: For instance, talk about your hobbies. Yes, she'll eventually put it together that you have hobbies that people like me can't have. But say it like, "Last weekend I went jet skiing with some friends of mine. We wanted to get some lake time in before it starts getting too cold." Don't say, "I like to jet ski." See the difference in indirection? BTW, if you're wealthy and don't have cool hobbies, you're an idiot.
Note the difference between being wealthy and successful. You could have just inherited a lot of wealth, and you don't actually have anything going for you. But success is something else entirely, and is a DHV. Also having a lot of money isn't the same as wealth, as wealth renews itself, and money has a way of evaporating over time.
Being in the upper class just makes you a bigger fish in a much bigger pool. That's the way women see it. Most of us can only seem like big fish because we are in smaller pools. We avoid the bigger pools for a reason. If you have a genuinely upper class lifestyle, make sure you're in a bigger pool. Why do women dream of moving to places like New York City or Los Angeles (I actually don't know what the dream cities for women are these days)? Because that's where the really big fish are, who make guys like me seem like boys in comparison. These women are basically coming to you. But if you stay in a smaller pool, women aren't going to take you seriously, and you just don't seem as big in comparison.

itsmevichet · 2012-09-17T16:00:48+00:00

If you are successful and wealthy, then that's who you are. You step into a room, and you convey that.

That's like asking a chicken how to look like a chicken.

What you ACTUALLY convey by thinking you need to "try to convey being wealthy and successful" (especially if you actually are wealthy and successful) is insecurity and desperation.

So, I bet if you get rid of that, you could be even MORE wealthy and successful.

No one who brags is happy in their own skin. I don't care how successful and wealthy they are. If they have something to prove to other people, the money's not helping them.

gpua · 2012-09-18T00:04:21+00:00

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Title	How do you use wealth/success to better attract women?
Author	Johnny_Kilroy
Upvotes	10
Comments	27
Date	September 17, 2012 1:48 PM UTC (13 years ago)
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