I recently discovered the seduction community and plan on making it my priority. Help me get started

PuroPincheGains · 2018-11-15T21:19:12+00:00

Inner Game

Inner Game is the mindset you carry and vibe you put out. It's important, like 70% of The Game. If this is solid, people will be naturally attracted to you. When you're your best self and live your best life, you're a desirable man. Read Models, then listen to Book of Pook on Youtube. Those are your Inner Game lessons.

Outer Game

Next you need some Outer Game skills. Outer Game is comprised of skills maneuvers that you use in navigating approaches and conversations to maximize success. It's also the physical ways you use to present yourself like grooming, fashion, and body language. Body language and appearance are super important. plays and canned lines are less important, and if you aren't careful, you'll end up performing which is not good. That means, don't act like someone you're not because you'll con your way into a shitty relationship which will end terribly once she figures out that you aren't the guy you're pretending to be. She will find out. That brings me to Mystery Method.

Mystery is the psuedoname for the man who is essentially the father of old school pick up. There were gurus before him, but he was the guy who made pick up artists mainstream. Ever see How I Met Your Mother? He's the real Barney Stinson. Nowadays he's divorced and never sees his kids. That's because he never quite got his Inner Game figured out and relied on sex and relationships for self worth and happiness. Don't do that. For more on Mystery, read The Game by Neil Strauss aka Style. It's not a manual, it's a biography with an important lesson. Spoilers, the lesson is, seduction can change your life, but it can also destroy if you think it will solve all of your problems. For this reason, I say Mystery Method is very old school, and perhaps outdated. Instead, I say check out either Revelations or The Natural. Revelations is Mystery Method revised and updated. So even Mystery knew his old book needed work. The Natural is by Richard La Ruina and covers subtle Outer Game. These will cover your Outer Game needs.

More Education

James Marshall: What Women Want - https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-juyEIgwhGQ
Nick Sparks: How to Hold Conversation Like a Man - https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=b-a1jXgAsQI

Tips and Tricks

Don't drink too much. Alcohol will make you less attractive at a certain point and it'll make you less able to learn from your interactions. Don't use a crutch.
Practice approaching a lot. Set a goal of how many girls you want to approach. Tell your buddy so he can hold you accountable. Forget about numbers or dates or sex. Just approach and practice conversing, then excuse yourself. Ask yourself if you think you could have gotten the number and why. Once you feel ready, get numbers.
Don't wait to approach until you've read all of the content. Start now, and as you learn new stuff, keeps notes on how you think that will change what you've been doing and then apply it. Assign homework based on the texts and lectures.
Sometimes you get numbers and she never texts back. Whether or not she texts back has almost nothing to do with what you say, but rather, how the interaction went before getting the number. Longer, deeper, more fun and genuine interactions lead to more responses. On occasion it's clear you can just go for it, but usually, you need to go for quality.
Have fun. If you're going out 3 times a week and it just sucks, there's a good chance it shows on your face and in your body language. Yeah, you're practicing being social with women, but that doesn't mean you aren't there to kick it with your friend as well.
Dress nice, get a haircut, brush your hair, groom yourself, etc. If you need a new wardrobe, do it. This is important, no matter what anyone says.
Hit the gym. I don't care what anyone says. Do it. Let me know if you need a workout routine.
Stand up straight, make more eye contact, and talk louder. Around everyone.
You have a good social circle. That's awesome, because social circle game is amazing. Don't hit on your friends, but hit on their friends. Subtly, don't ruin it. Cold approaching happens at the club, warm approaching happens when your friends tell people how awesome you are.
Stop fearing the Friendzone. The Friendzone is a magical place where hot platonic friends introduce you to their hot friends and tell them how amazing you are. Use this to expand your social circle game.
Move out ASAP, get some roommates who are all women. Let them friendzone you, don't even think about fucking them. You'll learn a ton about interacting with women and you'll greatly expand your social circle. Try Facebook housing groups.
Few people use the term Pick Up Artist (PUA) anymore. Most gurus nowadays call themselves Dating Coaches. Much more pc, and frankly, much more grounded and useful. Just keep that in mind, because you're not trying to become a PUA, you're trying to become the best version of you and be more successful in dating. The first takes you down Mystery's path; the latter leads you to your own personal self fulfillment, whether that's to have lots of sex or find someone special. It's up to you.
Last but not least, don't be a creep. Pay attention to body language and cues. If a girl looks uncomfortable, say nice to meet you and leave. If she's making excuses for why she can't talk, can't give you her number, or can't hang out, then say it was a pleasure and leave. If she says go away, say sorry to bother you and leave. Don't gain a bad reputation and don't make women have bad impressions of this community. That goes double for social circle game.

Let me know if you have any questions, I'm happy to help.

tinylittlecircles · 2018-11-15T18:24:07+00:00

It's like reading about myself... Really looking into the responses😁

Naustralia · 2018-11-15T18:40:58+00:00

You can read all you want but you wont improve until you actually go out, get rejected and practice. Rejection is a huge part ans you have to be ready.

PleiadianJedi · 2018-11-15T21:43:19+00:00

I started with The Game by Neil Strauss. It was such an amazing book that I had to read more of his work.

blunt_eastwood · 2018-11-15T23:23:01+00:00

Skip the typical advice.

Buy the book Models by Mark Manson, read it and absorb his message. Then follow the action plan he gives you at the end.

If you would like to discuss further PM me.

bulldog_in_the_dream · 2018-11-15T19:47:12+00:00

I don't think it's about being a though guy, I think it's about being bold, aware, assertive and curious.

I don't know the Models book. I'm reading The Mystery Method now — and while it has some interesting information I think the techniques it recommends are too flashy and relies too much on faking it.

Check out James Marshall's videos on youtube, I like his awareness based approach much more.

I think the number one thing you should focus on is not being afraid of signaling your interest. If you see a woman you like, look her in the eyes and hold her gaze, preferably until she looks away. It should be a sexual, electric moment. Smile if it comes natural, but you don't have to. You are not trying to come off as nice, you are displaying your lust for her.

If you approach a girl, again show your intent. Give a spesific and honest compliment, e.g. "I noticed you from across the bar and really liked how you move your arms when you talk and how animated and alive you are, so I had to come and talk to you." (The hotter the girl, the less you should comment on her physical beauty.)

When she talks, listen. Do not become preoccupied with what to say next. Simply listen to her like you would to one of your male friends and respond to what she says. That includes not automatically agreeing with everything she says, but also stating your own opinioins and challenging her. Do not ask what, where and when questions. Those are boring. Ask why questions and also state your own opinioin. Probe for meaning.

RelaxEnjoyChill · 2018-11-15T22:38:23+00:00

This sounds like me as well, same age and situation minus a good social group of friends since I moved to a new city. I'm gonna have to save this and try and stick with it. Good luck man

neonbluelight · 2018-11-15T23:50:50+00:00

These are two things I wish I knew when I started:

- Friends are better that hook ups for over all quality of life. If I was 28, I would spent equal amount of energy making friends (of both sexes) than looking for hook ups. Don't loose friends in the name of hook ups.

-Understand when you really want to hook up with someone, or you just want validation. If you are sad, depress and looking validation everywhere, the seduction community will drive you insane.

SmoothPrimal · 2018-11-16T07:54:37+00:00

Here are my, Do, Don’t Why tips:

Do be methodical. Don’t be some slave to some book or self proclaimed pick up guru. Why: You need to learn. Some dude, some friend or just you can facilitate that. Don’t get lost in people’s bullshit. Its just a step.

Do be yourself. Don’t be self-centered. Why: You need to stay congruent with yourself while being open enough to step outside your comfort zone.

Do be talk to as many girls as possible. Don’t do online. Why: Building true social and interpersonal skills makes you a more complete person with real value. Online everything is bullshit. Women also have the advantage.

Do think about the results of your approaches Don’t think while in the field. Why: Your brain will be against you when you start because its hardwired to be afraid of stepping outside social norms. Keep acting until you get a flow.

gbdoragnic · 2018-11-16T16:21:46+00:00

When was the last time you asked a women out on a date, women don't typically pursue man , do you use online dating? how many women do you ask out a month?

Super_Nova_19 · 2018-11-15T18:46:25+00:00

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Buullred · 2018-11-16T00:27:49+00:00

Simple tip: don't beat around the bush. Go out there and actually hit on them. That's the scary part which everyone wants to avoid but it's the most important one by far.

About reading does two books. For me personally it was better to read on different websites. I've read Models and The Game but I didn't like them or The Game is useless as far as pickup goes since it's just a story. Reading different views were they get to the point faster makes it much more easy to find a personal style that can suit you instead of changing yourself completely to fit in to a model.

baddog992 · 2018-11-15T19:45:01+00:00

"I've never been a tough guy, and I know this type of personality attracts the ladies. " Some ladies probably do like tough guys. That being said confidence, personality and being a good talker will get you long ways. I don't think you need to be a tough guy to attract women. If your getting the friend zone its probably how your steering the conversations.

Be flirty with a woman your interested in. Always dress to impress. I know some do not like dating sites but I have good luck with them in getting dates. OkCupid was recommended to me by a friend and I had a ton of dates from it. Getting your own place would probably help however I think you should still be able to get dates. If a woman is really into you having your own place will not matter much. Just some stuff that has worked for me.

GreedyReem · 2018-11-16T02:43:17+00:00

Can you direct message me the book

Rkingpin · 2018-11-15T20:32:26+00:00

Work on yourself: fitness, career, health.

Look and feel your best and the girls will come.

Luffydude · 2018-11-15T22:34:56+00:00

RSD videos while at work

levelUpLA · 2018-11-15T23:38:36+00:00

fuck that take a jiu-jitsu class and improv for inner game basically not giving a shit to be bold because you know you can protect yourself in needed and know how to be funny and calibrated.... for outer game mystery method, is still the best... yes it's old school but works like someone said Revelations or The Natural.... don't be scared to pull a fatty for reference a fatty sucking your dick is still better then a hand... sooner or later you will see patterns and get the type of girls you want... Write a list of the type of girl you want... don't just put big tits- big ass but put... an artist who cares about the environment or whatever otherwise you will attract girls who are just looking for validation and bad to your growth....

Work out work out work out be fit is key to get your 9's and 10's also fuck the 9-10 scale its either fuck or wouldn't fuck. approach everyone couples,old people, everyone !!!

dollazdrankanddank · 2018-11-15T19:07:08+00:00

bro the trick is to put it out there. on pick up its all about being alpha and manly. be direct and to the point.

when you talk, say their cute, and ask them if they're single, then ask them for a dance.

when you dance, grab their butt and tits. essentially manhandle. thats why i find it hilarious when trump said i grab them by the pussy.

when you finish, ask their number. most chicks give this our easily, and forget who they give it too. so when the night ends while their memory is fresh. call them right away and see if they want to hang. trade pics. add on sc.

anyways the impression i get is that its all about knowing how to handle women. how to grab them. when they are down. when they are not interested. always persist and pester them at least 3 times. women in general like to be chased.

i cant tell you how important it is to constantly tell them how beautiful they are. compliment their dress, their hair, their eyes. avoid saying i love your tits and ass even though for me personally its all i think about. also a dude that can pull other chicks immediately becomes more attractive. thats just how it works. its like confirmation from others or something.

anyways this is the pick up game. once you bag and tag, you should improve on poetry. poetry is pretty gay, but if you want to get women to do wahtever you want, you have to know it pretty well. shows intelligence etc. that you are comfortable with your masculinity. and that you truly love her, even if you dont.

Title	I recently discovered the seduction community and plan on making it my priority. Help me get started
Author	Super_Nova_19
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Date	November 15, 2018 5:33 PM UTC (7 years ago)
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