If she's interested, she will make it easy

GuyFromDaStore · 2018-05-07T23:21:33+00:00

"You have to work harder than that" means you're doing well but you need a clever comeback thats salacious and inviting. She's not shit testing you she's just testing to see if you are good at romantic dirty talk.

As for pauses in conversation, they're not necessarily a bad thing. A pause to a woman often means she's had enough conversation and wants some action.

If you keep blabbering on to avoid gaps in convo she may think you're really odd.

idontdrinksoda42 · 2018-05-07T23:47:31+00:00

I think women who are interested tend to make it easy. If they want you to take them theyll communicate it subtextually. But I dont think you should give up if they dont make it easy right away. A lot of times it takes a while to build attraction. Its not always immediate. Maintain a friendly relationship, just dont put all your effort into somebody who doesnt care about you.

Vibez__ · 2018-05-07T19:09:14+00:00

It can be a bad mindset. A really good video I saw was when Julien from RSD was talking to this girl and she seemed really stern and not interested. He was trying a few things to get her to liven up a bit and warm up to him and it didn't work.

I can't remember the line he used but he said it and she suddenly cracked a big smile and you knew he was in at that point and I'm fairly sure he at least got her number with ease.

There are mainly No girls, a few Yes girls, and a fair few Maybe girls. You just gotta work at it sometimes. Maybe girls may seem like No girls on the surface, but that's when good game comes in to play and you can destroy her bitch shield.

Having said that, it is potentially quicker just to dismiss all No and Maybe girls and just keep approaching until you get a Yes girl.

I think the beauty of game is when you bust your ass getting really good that you can actually convert those Maybe girls to Yes girls, though.

ThrowawayPUA · 2018-05-07T20:15:40+00:00

Even if she is attracted, she won't necessarily make it easy. She might even be a challenge. But she is secretly hoping you seduce her successfully. She will even help you through the awkward bits.

Dakota_Bryant · 2018-05-08T00:40:41+00:00

Nope. Girls can be difficult.

We're so used to the guy making all the moves that we just let them. The only point at which we make it easy is after you've made your intentions 100% clear and we're really interested too.

Start the conversation super flirty. Come up to her and tell her she's gorgeous and you'd like her number/a date. Then start the small talk. Also before doing this make sure she's in a situation where she has time to talk. She's walking at a pace in a grocery store? Not a good time. Chilling alone at the bar? Good time. She also might not receive you well if she's with friends, even if she does like you.

And if she responds to something with the phrase "you have to work harder than that" she is totally interested. Unless she sounds angry, that's flirting.

recyclablebanthas · 2018-05-08T05:07:22+00:00

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If she's interested, she will make it easy

Pretty much.

I'll add a stipulation that one can certainly widen their appeal by doing gamey things to hide who they are, so that the girl will end up projecting their own fantasies on you, at least until she finds out who you really are.

But playing it this way exacts a heavy toll. In my opinion, it's not worth it.

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I've gone about women with this mindset, and I'm wondering if I'm shooting myself in the foot. When I first start talking to a woman, I try to keep the conversation interesting while also trying to escalate to meeting up or a date.

How are you trying to "keep the conversation interesting?" What do you do in service of that?

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If the conversation even feels like I have to force it or she says something like "You have to work harder than that", I immediately drop her and focus on going for someone else. Is this a bad mindset?

Inherently, no. In doing this, you're screening out:

Girls who are basically asking you to buy into a manipulative view of relationships and/or dating.
Or girls who want you to engage in an exchange where you're each projecting fantasies onto the other person instead of connecting as who they are.

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Keep in mind that this has produced fairly average results and my lack of confidence causes me to pursue women that I wouldn't look at as "really attractive".

This is a different issue. The rest of your post is about you having standards. Here you're talking about confidence and suggesting that the solution is to drop your standards.

When really, the answer is to have standards you are happy with, while also building up your confidence.

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Julien from RSD was talking to this girl and she seemed really stern and not interested. He was trying a few things to get her to liven up a bit and warm up to him and it didn't work.

I can't remember the line he used but he said it and she suddenly cracked a big smile and you knew he was in at that point and I'm fairly sure he at least got her number with ease.

One can game the situation so that they can turn a girl around like this, but in involves obfuscating who one is, so that the girl can project her fantasies onto him. No one wins in this scenario. Julien and others like him are really good at this, but what they "win" in the end is more interactions with a girl who isn't interfacing with him but rather a figment of her own fantasies.

It's manipulation and games, rather than being about who he is as a person.

Which is fine maybe if you're only after some sex. But even then it can wear on you, knowing that it took selling yourself out to get somewhere. And it can lead to self-loathing and hating women in general, assuming that they "all are like that," and require manipulation and games, when they don't.

WIA20XX · 2018-05-07T21:31:53+00:00

This is somewhat of an efficient strategy, but your game won't get any better.

IntensePancakes · 2018-05-08T02:50:00+00:00

For the average guy, 10% of the girls you approach will just like you. They will make it easy and you can say pretty much anything to them.

Around 10% of girls are the opposite, just completely uninterested in you.

The middle 70% though will take some level of effort to get them attracted to you. This could be a large or small amount of effort depending on you, the girl, and the situation, but the point is, you're going to have to use your brain and stretch yourself a bit.

It seems like with your strategy you are cutting out everyone except the 10% that automatically like you and maybe the easy side of the "in-between" group. That's a lot of girls you are missing out on.

But hey, maybe you're a top 20% guy and something like 30% of girls will just automatically like you. Even then, I still think you should chase the "in between" group. Without that you are not only missing out on a lot of girls but are missing out on a lot of opportunities to improve your game. The "in between" group is where the magic happens. It's where you really learn how to attract someone.

judahman8 · 2018-05-08T03:20:10+00:00

I love turning girls around that come off completely disinterested. You don't really even need game to pull yes girls. Those are the same girls I was able to get before I learned game and they are usually 7s and below. Thats a small pool of women and the point of game is to make your pool way bigger to give you more options. If you want really hot girls you have to work for it. I don't like to play the numbers game. I like to be able to pull the girl that I choose, not the other way around. I don't want it to be easy, I want to be better.

brendan0313 · 2018-05-08T03:38:12+00:00

Easy? Shit test alert women are never easy!

enkae7317 · 2018-05-08T04:28:20+00:00

I don't get this theory that everyone on this sub likes to preach. If she likes you, she won't make it easy. But she won't make it hard either. You still gotta put in the game and effort.

Dadoma · 2018-05-08T08:00:01+00:00

If she's interested she will invest time into you to see if you can amplify her attraction towards you. If you succeed in this the chase will eventually end with you inside of her.

Lambdal7 · 2018-05-08T10:42:53+00:00

Half of the girls that are interested make it easy, half of them not.

The former are usually more shy and reserved girls, the latter more extroverted, girly girls and those will also shit test you more, since they want someone who she can be extroverted and silly with.

How do you know if you ran into an extroverted girl that is interested or simply one that isn't interested?

You don't really, so just pass a few shit tests and ask her number. Then you'll know if she's interested.

Title	If she's interested, she will make it easy
Author	renfsu
Upvotes	79
Comments	36
Date	May 7, 2018 6:57 PM UTC (8 years ago)
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