I want to know if anyone actually has became succesful in the game, being before a total novice (late loosing virginity, lots of insecurity, awkwardness, etc). Thats it, if you want to know where this came from, read the rest.

Ive seen and read many of dating advice. But i feel (like many here) struggling a lot because of our insecurities of being late, virgins, awkward, etc. And we see that the advice truly is for flirting, dating, and such. but not to overcome ourselves.

On my short self story, ive had nothing until now (24 years), 3 girls kissed troughout the year and my first sex expierience, which was really not actually satisfying at all. Loosing my virginity made me realise that i didnt need to loose it, that it didnt gave me super confidence, or that it would make me forget about thinking girls all day, and feeling weird, etc.

So im that guy in the game. Some friends i have, of course have different expierience. A supergood looking guy that also has very low game and cant keep women around. A cool dude that says that girls just come to him, but also cant keep them. A normal looking dude that is married and fucks lots of women from different places. And what i see from them is that they have always been the same. A dude always has been confident and got the girls, or he didnt, and grew the same. The boys that had girls often still get girls in the future, but ive never seen someone change like so radically to become a player from almost nothing.

I could explain more points of view, but i want to say that the game seems so fucking hard, like when you need job expierience and be 21 to apply for a job, just like that!

Also i havent seen anyone (other than me) approach to a hot girl on the street or in public places. Like it just doesnt feel right. I know i gotta start getting actual work on many things and that the change is, at least theoretically, achievable. I guess in the end i just want to express that getting to it feels so unforgivable, and that this is a part of why so many men get stuck forever; and im super curious if actually has felt like this or been in this stage and actually reached the peak of the mountain.

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