Smoking cigarettes... DLV or easy conversation starter?

throwaway-o · 2011-08-04T17:26:42+00:00

E-Cigs tend to be great convo starters.

2011-08-04T18:45:48+00:00

It's neither. The fact you smoke will either be something that turns them off from you or they won't care. I vape weed so I'll usually casually mention watching a movie while toking up to see their reaction. If they have a problem with it, then I friendzone them and keep her from voicing her judgments.

MrSparkle666 · 2011-08-04T18:00:23+00:00

It depends on the girl. Some girls will think you are demonstrating lower value, others won't care, but smoking cigarettes NEVER demonstrates high value. I wouldn't say women really care that much if you smoke cigarettes if you're trying to get a one night stand. However, if you are looking for a LTR a lot of women won't want to be around a heavy smoker because it shows that you are not so concerned about your long-term health. Also, not many people want to have a LTR where the person is constantly smelling like an ash tray. You can go outside for a fresh breath of air to have a conversation without using cigarettes as a social crutch to talk to others.

ThrowawayPUA · 2011-08-04T18:35:11+00:00

I tried to quit smoking, the longest I ever lasted was 18 months. I tried everything, but the only thing that really seems to help is aerobic exercise, like light running or walking. It seems to counteract the blues you get when quitting. I'm starting a walking routine now (at the peak heat of summer, ouch). You really want to reduce the smoking load on your lungs when you're out exercising in hot weather.

Anyway, I figure there is a fairly large group of women that just won't have anything to do with smokers, but whether that's 50 or 60%, or 5-10%, I don't think anyone knows. But it will cause some women to resist you. They just don't like smokers.

razqel · 2011-08-04T19:05:30+00:00

It sounds like the decision you have is between better health and easy openers. But it's not an either/or decision, as you can have both. Smoking is a social crutch to opening but you can also engage people without it.

I used to go to bars and clubs without drinking, that's because I wasn't there to drink, I was there to meet girls. It's only awkward if you're uncomfortable with it.

thatguynamedguy · 2011-08-04T19:20:58+00:00

Any action (almost) can demonstrate high or low value. It all depends on how you frame it. If you just say "Fuck yeah, I'm Calibration and when I feel like having a cig, I'll burn one down". Despite it being a vice, you convey control over your life, a trait of a high value individual.

dontmakelists · 2011-08-04T21:25:08+00:00

Different actions mean different things to different women in different contexts, so it's impossible to answer your tl;dr in a straightforward manner. If you like smoking cigarettes, and aren't just doing it to seem externally "cool," then smoke them. Your own confidence in your behavior will be attractive.

asiandude123 · 2011-08-05T08:47:19+00:00

if you want to quit smoking, then quit. compromising that just for the sake of meeting new people is stupid.

there are other ways to socialize besides what you mention.

puaCurveBall · 2011-08-04T17:08:28+00:00

If are seriously going to argue that bad breath, yellow teeth, smelly clothes, throwing money away, being addicted, CANCER AND DEATH are acceptable to get any amount of pussy, I don't like what that says about you as a person.

You want to meet a smoker chick? She says "I'm going outside for a smoke", you say "Great, I'll join you for some fresh air".

Congrats, you are a man who would rather die than be awkward, what an independent viewpoint for women to be attracted to.

Edit: People who are deluding themselves don't like getting called out. Thank god you guys won't be around in my golden years, sheesh.

BusStation16 · 2011-08-04T18:27:25+00:00

I say it goes both ways. I like the e-cig idea.

An important point about cigarettes is that they allow for LOTS of easy body language. You can read a TON of signals from a person who is smoking. You should really look that up.

Calibration · 2011-08-04T16:54:32+00:00

If you like women that smoke and smoke bud who are these high value women you're interested in? :/

FLPUA · 2011-08-05T04:22:31+00:00

Quit. It's a crutch. If you see somebody smoking, start a conversation by saying: 'Hey, I quit a couple years ago and it was the best decision of my life.' Make this true.

Nicotine, not just cigarette smoke, causes myriad heart and health problems. Addiction to nicotine and weed reflects a weakness within you, an expression of a lack of control of yourself and life.

Also, there's nothing wrong with getting a breath of fresh air, instead of smoking a cigarette. This is not 'awkward,' it's alpha as fuck.

Title	Smoking cigarettes... DLV or easy conversation starter?
Author	Calibration
Upvotes	15
Comments	54
Date	August 4, 2011 4:42 PM UTC (15 years ago)
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