State, caffeine, and depression

iznou · 2011-11-01T18:34:45+00:00

This is the best video I've seen on depression.

sillymallard · 2011-11-01T18:21:59+00:00

For me, chugging a boatload of caffeine is generally a bad thing. It's artificial and not good for my health. Sure, I'll feel great for a couple hours, but when the crash starts, I feel even shittier than I did without the caffeine. I use a little coffee in the morning to wake up and work out. On occasion I'll drink a little tea before going out, but I don't really recommend using caffeine as a fix for your state.

ilostitattheclub · 2011-11-01T19:37:24+00:00

I dont know, I was in a pretty bad space a few months ago, and I feel there is a difference between 'low state' and depression. I can be low state but still be happy...I thought state was more about energy levels or did I define that myself?

I think the biggest crutch is this high state mindset...Its easy to talk and pull when you're high state, but why cant you do it at any state? Sometimes I just want to roll at my low energy state, because I know there will be another opportunity around the corner where I will naturally be in the zone... Couldn't the energy it takes to achieve 'high state' be directed elsewhere?

Iamagrocerybag · 2011-11-01T18:27:21+00:00

I also feel that way, an energy drink makes me feel like I can do anything and makes me generally much more positive. This positive state comes at a price, first you need more and more caffeine to achieve the same state, and secondly your state at times without caffeine is drastically lowered.

This creates a negative cycle of increasing negativity, dependence and mood swings...

07SS · 2011-11-01T19:00:40+00:00

It's kinda like booze. Maybe it'll help you out, but do you really want to develop a habit of it and NEED it as a crutch whenever you go out?

I take Jack3d (pre-w/o supp) before I work out (obv hahaha) and when I'm on it I always feel great talking to girls in the gym and around there. (in HS)

balinx · 2011-11-01T19:34:54+00:00

6-10 hours after that caffeine hit how do you feel?

drumdance · 2011-11-01T19:43:45+00:00

I've struggled with depression all my life. For me, at least, it's not just less happiness and low energy. It's not even having an idea of what normal energy and happiness feels like. Suicide becomes an option because you can't even imagine what it feels like to feel good, so why waste time?

I tried St. John's Wort and numerous other anti-depressants - no help. The only one that has worked for me is Zoloft and the difference is just shocking. I can't believe how much better I feel when I'm on it.

reyawaworht · 2011-11-01T19:48:57+00:00

Both caffeine and alcohol can help you get into state, but they can also work against you if you are not being healthy in other ways. If I don't get sleep well, caffeine will really hurt me when talking to people because i'll feel unnaturally energetic and kind of "stretched thin". Similarly, if i'm tired and drink alcohol i'll only get more tired. Obviously getting dependant on either is bad as well.

But I have observed the same thing with low energy and depression. I get depressed once in a while and i've noticed it's persistently because I feel TIRED and my mind seems to "extrapolate" that out. Basically I feel like I won't be able to accomplish anything, ever, because i'm so tired and it feels like i'll ALWAYS be tired. Same thing with being high energy - when i'm having a great night out i'll seriously think "What was I worried about? This is awesome and i'm going to continue to be awesome forever."

IBringAIDS · 2011-11-01T20:57:17+00:00

Caffeine has mild mood elevation properties, but after awhile the body gets used to it so you'll need more and more caffeine to reach baseline (that's why people who drink coffee regularly are in terrible moods when they abstain).

Try supplementing with B Vitamins, exercise and taking a high quality fish oil instead.

glirkdient · 2011-11-01T22:47:41+00:00

This is something I try to keep in mind when looking at things. Your mental state affects your perception a lot. Last night I was feeling down and while looking back at texts trying to set up a date I felt that she was being nice, but her excuses for being too busy were just that, excuses, and that I had lost her.

On the other hand when I was in a positive state and looking back at it I felt that she was being nice and asking what we would be doing, so that is a bit indicative of interest. So perhaps I had a chance left and it was worth pursuing until it fails and if it does there's plenty more girls out there to refine my game on.

jerseykid · 2011-11-01T18:26:14+00:00

St johns wort. A natural anti depressant.

Title	State, caffeine, and depression
Author	MARSpu
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Date	November 1, 2011 5:09 PM UTC (14 years ago)
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