My ex an I were in a relationship for three months and dating for four before that.
We weren't exclusive during those four months, and we were just casually dating. After four months, I realized how happy she made me, and decided that I wanted to make it official. So I asked her to be my girlfriend. She smiled and said she really liked me but she wasn't sure she wanted to put a title on things, and asked if I would give her the weekend to think about it.
I figured it was a blow off, but on that Sunday she called me up and said she was absolutely sure the answer was yes.
We've been very happy and things have gone well, other than that we hadn't had sex yet. She said she wanted to wait until she was ready, which I've been cool with. I understand it, or at least I thought I did.
So this past weekend, she decided she was ready. I planned a big romantic dinner, took her to see a play, and showed her a very nice time.
As we got back to my place, I joked that I was glad she was ready because it had been about a year for me. She laughed and said, "Yeah, I'm sorry."
I replied that it was ok and that I respected that she had to be ready because it was probably a while for her too. She started averting her gaze and said, "Well, not as long as you."
I responded, "We've been involved for seven months. How much not as long?"
She wanted to drop the subject, but I was upset and kept pressing. She finally admitted that she had been seeing me and someone else at the beginning. She liked me more, but she already had a date set up with this other guy that weekend when I asked her.
Her friend advised her to go on the date, have sex with the guy, get it out of her system, and say yes to me after so it wouldn't be cheating. She did exactly this, ended it with him, and called me up after.
I told her to get out of my car. She started sobbing and apologizing saying that it was a mistake. I told her I didn't care. I told her that she lied to me, as far as I'm concerned she absolutely did cheat, she buried it for three months, and then acted like sex was something special and important to her when in actuality it was something to get out of her system with someone else.
I told her it was over and I never wanted to see her again. She begged me to forgive her and I told her it's not happening.
She's texted me numerous apologies saying she wishes she could go back and change it and I've ignored her. Her friend, yes the one that gave her the advice, called me up and said that I should be mad at her and not my ex. I replied that I actually am angry with both of them because they are both terrible people.
A friend of mine told me that I was overreacting and we weren't exclusive until she said yes, but that feels like such contrived garbage to me that I won't even hear it. Am I overreacting? Did I make the right choice?
[–]rainisthelifeRuthless Strategist[S,M] [score hidden] stickied comment (1 child) | Copy Link
Ladies, this example is so important because it shows two things:
1.) A lot of the brigaders and bitter men that come here or crosspost our posts to other reddit subs claiming that our strategies won’t work because no man will wait months for sex, have obviously been lying 🤣🤣
2.) Your sexual past is none of his business. There’s no gold at the end of the proverbial rainbow for being “upfront” about how many guys you’ve fucked and at what timeline, because a lot of men are insecure and can use it against you.
So yes, STFU. No one needs to know any of that shit. Stop oversharing and ultimately sabotaging yourselves.
[–]NEETwithAchainsawFDS Newbie28 points29 points30 points (1 child) | Copy Link
They weren't exclusive, if he cared about being with her seriously at all and knew it would bother him that she sleep with someone else he should have told her he wanted exclusivity. Open relationships are just that way, its his own damn fault for not wanting commitment at the start lol. He probably has a double standard I bet if he fucked a girl before they were exclusive and his gf got mad about it he'd say they weren't exclusive and that she is overreacting, but because it happened to him its cheating. Girl dodged a bullet when he broke it off.
[–]sweatydeathRuthless Strategist18 points19 points20 points (0 children) | Copy Link
That’s what gets me mad about it - it’s a huge double standard
[–]bearded_dragonladyFDS STRATEGY COACH23 points24 points25 points (2 children) | Copy Link
TBH she dodged a bullet. He just commented that if he was spiteful, he would have "fucked her before I ended it."
This just proves that he views sex as a conquest in which he gets to take something away from the woman. He dumped his ex because she apparently lied about sex being something meaningful for her, when he felt that it wasn't since she had sex with another man. So if he believes that sex is not meaningful for her, why would it "spite" her to hook up with her before dumping her?
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[–]reddituser39682 10 points11 points12 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah she dodged a bullet.
[–]sweatydeathRuthless Strategist38 points39 points40 points (12 children) | Copy Link
That guy is a moron. They were dating casually for 4 months before being serious. She has every right to sleep with someone during that time. Another example of THE FRAGILE MALE EGO. Don’t share what you did when you were not together, it’s none of his damn business.
You know he’s just mad that his dry spell was longer.
[–]AverageToHotRuthless Strategist32 points33 points34 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Exactly. He expected her to be exclusive when he hasn’t even asked her that? Typical male entitlement to a woman’s body.
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[–]sweatydeathRuthless Strategist18 points19 points20 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Apparent-fucking-ly we are. Guys like this are living a fantasy or something
I’m like 100% sure his 1-yr dry spell wasn’t by choice.
[–]APrivatephilosophyFDS Disciple11 points12 points13 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Our girl out there getting dinners and drinks and gaming the system just like a man would.
The comments someone said even though they weren’t together, it’s still cheating.
Lol fuck these dudes. get money
[–]sadchild5FDS Newbie14 points15 points16 points (1 child) | Copy Link
seriously. this is one of the most pathetic things i've ever read. she's a terrible person because she was seeing other people (as he could too) and had sex with someone while NOT in a relationship with him? what a fucking joke. i'm sorry that this woman wasted 7 months on this giant baby
aside from weeding out fragile losers like this one, there's no upside to being honest with men about things like this. they'll always judge you, to varying degrees. absolutely pointless.
[–]rainisthelifeRuthless Strategist[S] 6 points7 points8 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Yup 💯
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[–]sweatydeathRuthless Strategist0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
None of my business if we aren’t exclusive
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[–]GrassStartersSuckFDS Newbie5 points6 points7 points (0 children) | Copy Link
This is the same thing they say to us when we get upset about men texting/fucking multiple people before were official with them. This is a two way street, bud!
[–]_HEDONISM_BOTFDS STRATEGY COACH5 points6 points7 points (0 children) | Copy Link
It plays out exactly like this, EVERY TIME.
Keep your sexual past a secret. Remember that men will try to calculate your "n count" by digging up your social media, counting the number of exes you posted about, counting the men you've talked about, and anything else they can get their hands on. Some men will even assume that you've fucked all of the men you have on your "friends list". They are OBSESSED with sexual purity.
They can't let it go. They can never handle it when you dared to sexually exist before you met them.
Do a full sweep of your social media. Delete and untag them. If you're dating multiple men, make sure to use a Google voice number from a throwaway GMAIL or a burner phone and don't give them your real name (use a "nickname") . Don't tell them where you live or work until after extensive vetting has happened.
[–]rad_daphneFDS STRATEGY COACH11 points12 points13 points (6 children) | Copy Link
"I made her date me for four months before I asked her to be my girlfriend but at some point she fucked somebody else even though we weren't exclusive and I hadn't made any commitment to her. How dare she!"
Basically he's bitter he hadn't been able to get anyone to climb on his pathetic dick for a year but she has sex.
Anyway if a guy hasn't asked you to be his girlfriend after one, to maximum, two months of dating drop him.
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[–]rad_daphneFDS STRATEGY COACH6 points7 points8 points (2 children) | Copy Link
Yes. Thank you. I like you! I've seen your comments around.
I can't believe women are wasting their time on these men! 4 months? 4 fucking months? Before he even decided he wanted to lock her down. And then he dumps her! Lol
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[–]rad_daphneFDS STRATEGY COACH3 points4 points5 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Thanks! It takes vision and a lot of getting fucked over to see through all of this shit! ha!
But really, everything is hidden from women so they will be more vulnerable to these pigs. Pretend it's the 50s and you don't fuck anybody and they have to take you out and prove themselves to you before you hug them and hold them.
[–]rainisthelifeRuthless Strategist[S] 2 points3 points4 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Lol 9 years 😂 I’m still cry-laughing at the ridiculousness of that last post 💀
[–]throwmefaraway85FDS Newbie10 points11 points12 points (1 child) | Copy Link
I think I read this differently than some people here. From what I understand, they had been casual for four months. After those four months he asked her to be exclusive. She said she needed the weekend to think about it, went and slept with the other guy, then told him yes afterwards.
I don't think he was upset she was seeing/sleeping with other people during those casual four months. He's upset that she purposely delayed giving him an answer to his request for exclusivity for the sole purpose of sleeping with this other guy first.
[–]bearded_dragonladyFDS STRATEGY COACH10 points11 points12 points (0 children) | Copy Link
True, but right when she implied that her dry spell was shorter, he said "We've been involved for seven months. How much not as long?"
This means that he probably would've been bitter even if she did sleep with other dudes before they became official, or else he would have just said "3 months". Before they were exclusive, he didn't find anyone else to have sex with, and he definitely would've been mad/jealous if she did. That's why he kept pressing after getting the sense that she wasn't celibate for those 7 months.
Either way, 4 months is too long for a guy to ask for commitment. It's good that she made him wait another 3 months just to have him prove his commitment.
[–]AnniaTFDS Disciple9 points10 points11 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Wtf, how did she cheat on him if she was with this other guy before their first date? And even if it was after the first date, they only became committed later, not at first date. What an insecure manchild. But yeah, you should never reveal these kinds of things to men even if they say they're just asking out of curiosity. They can't take it. But good for her, at least she didn't waste any more time with this whiny moid.
[–]dumbblundeFDS Newbie3 points4 points5 points (0 children) | Copy Link
if he asks anything like that, leave him. it’s none of his business and he just wants to hold it over you.
but i don’t think anyone should lie about their sexual past either. women need to be honest about their sexual desires without it catering to the male glaze.
[–]reddituser39682 3 points4 points5 points (1 child) | Copy Link
This. The thing is, men do the same exact thing but get pissed off at women who do it lmao. 7 months is kind of a ridiculous amount of time though, I will say that. But yes, NEVER tell a guy about your past sexual encounters. It's literally none of his business.
[–]rainisthelifeRuthless Strategist[S] 2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, that literarily was the only reasonable comment there. I’m not surprised that it came from a woman. Men typically lack that kind of introspection or self awareness and they tend to only look at things from the male imperative perspective.
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Here's a copy of the post, in case it gets deleted:
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r/relationship_advice•Posted byu/ThrowRA18653 days ago
I [33M] broke up with my girlfriend [29F]. I've been told that I'm overreacting.
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My ex an I were in a relationship for three months and dating for four before that.
We weren't exclusive during those four months, and we were just casually dating. After four months, I realized how happy she made me, and decided that I wanted to make it official. So I asked her to be my girlfriend. She smiled and said she really liked me but she wasn't sure she wanted to put a title on things, and asked if I would give her the weekend to think about it.
I figured it was a blow off, but on that Sunday she called me up and said she was absolutely sure the answer was yes.
We've been very happy and things have gone well, other than that we hadn't had sex yet. She said she wanted to wait until she was ready, which I've been cool with. I understand it, or at least I thought I did.
So this past weekend, she decided she was ready. I planned a big romantic dinner, took her to see a play, and showed her a very nice time.
As we got back to my place, I joked that I was glad she was ready because it had been about a year for me. She laughed and said, "Yeah, I'm sorry."
I replied that it was ok and that I respected that she had to be ready because it was probably a while for her too. She started averting her gaze and said, "Well, not as long as you."
I responded, "We've been involved for seven months. How much not as long?"
She wanted to drop the subject, but I was upset and kept pressing. She finally admitted that she had been seeing me and someone else at the beginning. She liked me more, but she already had a date set up with this other guy that weekend when I asked her.
Her friend advised her to go on the date, have sex with the guy, get it out of her system, and say yes to me after so it wouldn't be cheating. She did exactly this, ended it with him, and called me up after.
I told her to get out of my car. She started sobbing and apologizing saying that it was a mistake. I told her I didn't care. I told her that she lied to me, as far as I'm concerned she absolutely did cheat, she buried it for three months, and then acted like sex was something special and important to her when in actuality it was something to get out of her system with someone else.
I told her it was over and I never wanted to see her again. She begged me to forgive her and I told her it's not happening.
She's texted me numerous apologies saying she wishes she could go back and change it and I've ignored her. Her friend, yes the one that gave her the advice, called me up and said that I should be mad at her and not my ex. I replied that I actually am angry with both of them because they are both terrible people.
A friend of mine told me that I was overreacting and we weren't exclusive until she said yes, but that feels like such contrived garbage to me that I won't even hear it. Am I overreacting? Did I make the right choice?
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[–]rainisthelifeRuthless Strategist[S] 5 points6 points7 points (1 child) | Copy Link
It depends on how extensive your sexual history is. If you know you’ve slept with a significant number of guys in the past, say >5, and he’s pressing you for a number, don’t say you’ve slept with more than 5. 5 is the highest number you should give.
If he’s the type to ask in the first place, you might want to consider whether he’s the type of guy you want to be with in the first place. But if you like him, don’t tell him that you’ve slept with more than 5 and say your last sexual encounter was at least 6months ago.
The other thing is to not go into detail about the sexual encounters you had with the other guys. Do not tell him that you had anal or deep throated the other guys (if you have), because if for whatever reason you don’t feel like doing it anymore, he would start to feel cheated and insecure that you did some sexual stuff with others that you don’t want to do with. This also applies to stuff like threesomes, BDSM, stuff like that.