Men denied parental rights over their own children, their names will not appear on the birth certificate.

McFeely_Smackup · 2014-06-19T19:48:04+00:00

Is this a gay rights issue? yes. Is it a mens rights issue? again, yes.

Primarily because if a woman used a surrogate to carry her egg, there's no doubt her name would be placed on the birth cirtificate, rather than the woman who carried by fetus and has no biological relationship to it.

I can understand that texas currently has no provision to allow two fathers on a birth certificate, fine...fix that. But to deny that the biological father, proven through dna, to appear on the birth certificate and ordering that the surrogate remain is just nonsensical.

waves_of_ignerence · 2014-06-19T21:24:01+00:00

This is not only an MHRA issue, it's a Father's rights issue as well, and an lgbt issue. All of which are, and should be, men's rights issues.

Schmit_on_you · 2014-06-19T15:55:25+00:00

"It's astonishing that in our country, in 2014, loving parents can still be denied basic legal protections for their own children," said GLAAD President & CEO Sarah Kate Ellis. "As a gay mother of twins myself, it breaks my heart to think that Joe and Jason's family has now been put in harm's way, simply because they live in a state that refuses to respect their legal marriage. Every parent should be able to protect their own child, regardless of who they love or where they live."

Amen to that, hope everything works out for them.

JJTheJetPlane5657 · 2014-06-19T22:26:10+00:00

Wow, really disappointed in the comments section here. I don't understand how you can "not get" why this is posted here.

First off, gay rights and men's rights aren't mutually exclusive.

Secondly, if a single dude who happened to be straight was involved this same thing would happen. The "discrimination because men" part comes from the fact that only the mother is listed as a parent on the birth certificate by default if the couple isn't married.

greycloud24 · 2014-06-20T06:21:31+00:00

this is a gay rights issue, a men's rights issue and a state's rights issue. i think these men should be able to have the birth certificate of the sons that they are the paternal father for in any state. but i respect the state right to not put them as the father of the child that they are not the paternal father too. they are stupid because this is a political stunt. obviously they should have done this in a more liberal state.

i don't think texas should be forced to accept both of them on the birth certificates. but they definitely should be on the birth certificate of their biological child. and if they want to make this a happy family, they should go to a state that is more friendly towards this, get it done and then move back to texas if that is where they want to live. once legitimized in another state, it would be impossible for texas to revoke it.

Roddy0608 · 2014-06-20T11:11:35+00:00

This is simple. The mother goes on both birth certificates. Each father goes on their own biological child's birth certificate. It's sad that the children won't have a mother (around) though.

Dimitrisan · 2014-06-19T16:03:25+00:00

This is somewhat misleading when posted in /r/mensrights. It's really a /r/gayrights issue. I'm not convinced this situation would be any different if this were a lesbian couple rather than a gay couple.

Leahcimknabue · 2014-06-19T22:31:45+00:00

This is a Human rights issue. Just like Mens Rights is human rights and Women's right is human rights and lgbt rights are human rights ect. We put such a distinction between gender, sexuality, and race that there will never be Equal Rights. We breed a sense of superiority by labeling issues with "Mens Rights" and "Feminism" ect. And it only deepens the problem we as a nation and a species are having and are going to continue having. We will never get to Equal Rights unless we redesign programs like "Battered Women's Shelters" into a "Battered Spouse Shelter" Everyone deserves equality and it cannot come from reparations, it cant come from 30 new programs designed to help group A at the cost of restricting and infringing group B. If we all start thinking of these as Human Rights issues instead of LBGT, Mens, Womans, Ethnic Rights issues we will start what needs to be fixed so that all of Humanity is equal instead of "Who is Humanity is Equal Next."

dan-theman · 2014-06-19T19:20:12+00:00

While I am disappointed in the outcome, this has nothing to do with gender discrimination.

Revoran · 2014-06-19T22:49:18+00:00

This is a gay rights issue, /r/mensrights is not the place for this.

NWOslave · 2014-06-20T00:08:56+00:00

As always if it's gay it gets voted right to the top. Where you stick your junk is not a right. Leftist comprehension failure.

Title	Men denied parental rights over their own children, their names will not appear on the birth certificate.
Author	trprawks
Upvotes	220
Comments	51
Date	June 19, 2014 2:41 PM UTC (12 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/28jyrb/men_denied_parental_rights_over_their_own/
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